Re: [Pharo-project] Getting my head around low space [closed]

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks for sharing that with us. Stef On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Max Leske wrote: > Hey folks > > As was to be expected, my memory problem resulted from a problem in my code. > So, just wanted to say thanks for the help and sorry for the hubbub. > What might be of interest: I use the CogVM no

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Astronomy?

2010-11-04 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Alexandre, I don't have any direct experience with astronomy, but we no doubt share some requirements. I started purging Numerical Recipes from my arsenal long ago, in part over licensing and mostly because so much of the code suffers from Fortran-confusion-syndrome. What do I mean by that?

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Astronomy?

2010-11-04 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:18 AM, Luc Fabresse wrote: > Hi Alex, >  I am also very interested in interoperability with Python to be able to > script Blender (http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Robotics:Contents) from > Pharo. >  However, Blender is only scriptable in Python. >  So, if you have someth

Re: [Pharo-project] [Metacello] 1.0-beta.28-ea.0 ... early access for symbolicVersions and friends

2010-11-04 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
> > MetacelloSymbolicVersionExample1Config is a config with symbolic > versions defined for #development and #stable, while using the default > definition for #bleedingEdge. MetacelloSymbolicVersionExample1Config > is a subclass of MetacelloBaseConfiguration (yes an abstract > configuration class)

Re: [Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file

2010-11-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Yossi, From the brief description it does look like Moose can offer several parts that might be of interest. The best way to ask for information or help regarding Moose is on the Moose mailing list: http://www.moosetechnology.org/about/contact Cheers, Doru On 5 Nov 2010, at 00:13, YossiD

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Astronomy?

2010-11-04 Thread YossiDM
I haven't used astronomy packages, but I've played around with interop with other languages. I am assuming your goal is that you don't want to replace your libraries, rather just make use of them. In general, there are a few strategies that also apply to python, but I have never done direct integ

Re: [Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file

2010-11-04 Thread YossiDM
Pavel, Thanks! This is at least a start so it might be helpful even if we don't update it directly. Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote: > > Hi, > > you need to run the image to get its ImageMap or ImageGraph. > > However in times of Squeak 3.6 there was a tool named ImageBrowser > (http://www.is.titech.

Re: [Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file

2010-11-04 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi, you need to run the image to get its ImageMap or ImageGraph. However in times of Squeak 3.6 there was a tool named ImageBrowser (http://www.is.titech.ac.jp/~ohshima/squeak/sm/ImageBrowser3.6.1.cs.gz). You can browse specified classes from the image file using this tool. Unfortunately it works

Re: [Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file

2010-11-04 Thread YossiDM
Stéphane, Yes, we are definitely going to use Moose at some point and I have spent some time with it, but it is lower on our list of priorities. Not because there is anything bad about Moose, but rather we are trying to be pragmatic about our development scope. Moose is really extensive which is

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting my head around low space [closed]

2010-11-04 Thread Max Leske
Hey folks As was to be expected, my memory problem resulted from a problem in my code. So, just wanted to say thanks for the help and sorry for the hubbub. What might be of interest: I use the CogVM now for the task and I'm really excited how fast it is! I started the same calculations first in

Re: [Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yossi did you try Moose? Because moose is a softare analysis platform to build browser and dashboards :) We are working on making sure that Moose built on pharo can analyse pharo itself. This is working but we want to make sure that we can running Moose 4.1 in pharo 1.2 analysing pharo 1.3 unsta

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Astronomy?

2010-11-04 Thread Luc Fabresse
Hi Alex, I am also very interested in interoperability with Python to be able to script Blender (http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Robotics:Contents) from Pharo. However, Blender is only scriptable in Python. So, if you have something, please let me know. Thanks, #Luc 2010/11/4 Alexandre Be

Re: [Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
pavel sent a graphiz image. On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:02 PM, YossiDM wrote: > > Thanks, I'll try to dig that up - sounds like a good starting point. I am > definitely looking to do the second option you mentioned which is to mirror > the image so I can just use standard tools. Our app is mainly fro

Re: [Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
nick is starting to work on cross compilation toolset and remote debugger in the context of robots but I imagine that his work should let us access remote images. Having an API would be good to be able to query the system and get some information Now orthogonally what we will start to work on a

Re: [Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file

2010-11-04 Thread YossiDM
Thanks, I'll try to dig that up - sounds like a good starting point. I am definitely looking to do the second option you mentioned which is to mirror the image so I can just use standard tools. Our app is mainly from seaside, so that would be the ideal way for me, though I can imagine us doing som

Re: [Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file

2010-11-04 Thread YossiDM
Thanks. I suspected as much. Any plans to implement anything like this? We are currently using the .changes file, but we will perhaps instead take a custom snap shot of the data into a specific data structure and persist it before we turn off the image. As you can imagine, getting this informatio

Re: [Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file

2010-11-04 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:38 PM, YossiDM wrote: > > Is there a simple way that I can do some introspection on an image file > without loading it as the current image for the VM? Specifically, I want to > query the classes, methods, packages, etc loaded into the image for > documentation purposes,

Re: [Pharo-project] Writing API for XML (WAX) - Bibliography example

2010-11-04 Thread Alexandre Bergel
http://www.squeaksource.com/XMLSupport.html To load the thing: Gofer new squeaksource: 'XMLSupport'; package: 'ConfigurationOfXMLSupport'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfXMLSupport) perform: #loadDefault Alexandre On 4 Nov 2010, at 17:54,

Re: [Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
not right now. you could open an the changes file with from another image or use rst to query objects in an image from another one. Stef On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:38 PM, YossiDM wrote: > > Is there a simple way that I can do some introspection on an image file > without loading it as the current imag

Re: [Pharo-project] Writing API for XML (WAX) - Bibliography example

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
in XMLSupport package On Nov 4, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Hannes Hirzel wrote: > On 11/3/10, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> No we consider it as an external package. > > Where do I find the most recent version? > --HJH >

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Nov 4, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> ok I added the files this is better. > > Yes, I could read the french article now. > > I am not quite convinced with the explanation of the back-tick though: > > "Un schéma peut contenir des variables en utilisant le backquote ou > accent gra

[Pharo-project] for newcomers and others

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Dear all Please do not forget to let us know what you are doing with pharo. This is important for us to know. In addition, this is important to sign the license agreement so that we can accept your contributions. Stef "if you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do different

[Pharo-project] Introspection on saved image file

2010-11-04 Thread YossiDM
Is there a simple way that I can do some introspection on an image file without loading it as the current image for the VM? Specifically, I want to query the classes, methods, packages, etc loaded into the image for documentation purposes, for example from a previous version of an image saved as a

[Pharo-project] Pharo and Astronomy?

2010-11-04 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! I am looking for any experience in using Pharo to develop software for Astronomy. Especially regarding interoperability with Python, using Mathematical libraries (www.nr.com, www.gnu.org/software/gsl, matplotlib.sourceforge.net/gallery.html) Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;

Re: [Pharo-project] MicroSqueak

2010-11-04 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
THanks Graig. I could download it and run it :) Thanks Mariano On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Craig Latta wrote: > > Hi Stef-- > > > ...we did not read spoon because we could not find it > > Oh dear, it looks like the company that serves the Spoon files > changed names. I've updated http

Re: [Pharo-project] Writing API for XML (WAX) - Bibliography example

2010-11-04 Thread Hannes Hirzel
On 11/3/10, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > No we consider it as an external package. Where do I find the most recent version? --HJH

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12229

2010-11-04 Thread Marcus Denker
12229 - Issue 3204: something is wrong [...] with the collapse (minimize) Issue 3199: isWords correct comment Issue 3195: Bitmap tests Issue 3202: references in System->Settings should refer to action click menu instead of yellow button menu -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Lukas Renggli
> ok I added the files this is better. Yes, I could read the french article now. I am not quite convinced with the explanation of the back-tick though: "Un schéma peut contenir des variables en utilisant le backquote ou accent grave. Ainsi, `key représente n’importe quelle variable, mais pas une

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
ok I added the files this is better. stef On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > There is a Data folder, but only the pdf of my blog is in there. > > Lukas > > On 4 November 2010 14:04, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> no data folder? >> probably forgot the push >> >> RewriteRules ls >

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Francois Stephany
git status git add . git commit git push :) On 04/11/10 14:04, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: no data folder? probably forgot the push RewriteRules ls Data/ RewriteRules.tex Lint.odtprogram-checking-paper.tex Lint.tex RewriteRules git push Everything up

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Lukas Renggli
There is a Data folder, but only the pdf of my blog is in there. Lukas On 4 November 2010 14:04, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > no data folder? > probably forgot the push > >  RewriteRules ls > Data/                       RewriteRules.tex > Lint.odt                    program-checking-paper.tex > Lin

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
no data folder? probably forgot the push RewriteRules ls Data/ RewriteRules.tex Lint.odtprogram-checking-paper.tex Lint.tex RewriteRules git push Everything up-to-date RewriteRules Stef On Nov 4, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > I don't

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Lukas Renggli
I don't see any french text. Just a PDF of a blog article I wrote, the LaTeX source of the program-checking paper, and an empty LaTeX template. Lukas On 4 November 2010 13:30, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Normally I added some text in french :( > do not pay attention too much on the style > dump in

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Normally I added some text in french :( do not pay attention too much on the style dump information and like that we can get material to work on I think that having examples is the key point to get started. > > On 4 November 2010 10:09, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> I'm adding some other files (i

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient with SSL

2010-11-04 Thread Göran Krampe
On 11/04/2010 06:47 AM, Steven Baker wrote: Heya folks, I need SSL support for WebClient. SqueakSSL fails to build in my Pharo image. Is SqueakSSL supposed to work? (Before I spend more time troubleshooting it.) Is there another method? If you know whom you want to connect to, then you can us

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Lukas Renggli
On 4 November 2010 10:09, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > I'm adding some other files (in french) :( > but I'm stuck with git git pull git add french-rewrite.tex git commit git push >> Yeah, where do I find that chapter? >> >> There is a section on the AST matching/search in my PhD as Helvetia >>

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I'm adding some other files (in french) :( but I'm stuck with git > Yeah, where do I find that chapter? > > There is a section on the AST matching/search in my PhD as Helvetia > builds on top of it. Not on the AST rewriting though, Helvetia uses a > different mechanism there. Still it mig

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
in the pharo by example git hub repository now I check that there is only an emtpy doc and your paper :). I hope that I did not throw away what I wrote :( Stef On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Yeah, where do I find that chapter? > > There is a section on the AST matching/se

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Lukas Renggli
Yeah, where do I find that chapter? There is a section on the AST matching/search in my PhD as Helvetia builds on top of it. Not on the AST rewriting though, Helvetia uses a different mechanism there. Still it might be a good start. Lukas On 4 November 2010 09:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > luka

Re: [Pharo-project] learning rewrite rules

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
lukas I would love to have a chapter on Rules. I have a starter that I wrote long time ago for the squeak french book but it would be cool if you could add to it. Stef On Nov 4, 2010, at 12:55 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> If I try to match it like: >> '`...@browser showOn: `...@target; from:

Re: [Pharo-project] a question about reef naming conventions

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
how it is right now :)? On Nov 3, 2010, at 11:52 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > I'm having some doubts about how to call some methods for Reef. To be > precise, I'm not sure about the naming og the method extensions I'm adding. > For instance, I have an extension for Object, the method #a

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient with SSL

2010-11-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
normally yes. I do not see why it should not. May be we missed some network cleaning of squeak but what do you mean by failing to build. Stef On Nov 4, 2010, at 6:47 AM, Steven Baker wrote: > Heya folks, > > I need SSL support for WebClient. SqueakSSL fails to build in my Pharo > image. Is Sque

Re: [Pharo-project] a question about reef naming conventions

2010-11-04 Thread Peter van Rooijen
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 00:01:24 +0100, Diogenes Moreira wrote:I think the third option is clearer than the others. I agree, but I'd use a "real" prefix, exactly the same characters at the beginning, every time.So that would become: reefAsView, reefAsCallback.In my own code, I prefix selectors some