On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
> Pharo 1.0-beta2 _is_ loading Shout 1.2.2 ... that's the one without
> ShoutWorkspace, which I think is correct ... so ProfStef is okay ...
>
> BTW, validation doesn't check whether versions match or not ... if Shout
> had a symbolic version
Pharo 1.0-beta2 _is_ loading Shout 1.2.2 ... that's the one without
ShoutWorkspace, which I think is correct ... so ProfStef is okay ...
BTW, validation doesn't check whether versions match or not ... if Shout had a
symbolic version defined for Pharo1.2, then I would say that you should use
#st
Hi Andres:
On 28 Feb 2011, at 08:01, Andres Valloud wrote:
> FWIW, the "pauseless" feature of the algorithm sounds very close (if not
> exactly) like VisualWorks' incremental GC, modulo the multithreading.
Is VisualWorks' GC documented somewhere?
However, you might want to read the VEE'05 paper
Hi,
I've remembered that ProfStef has a dependency on Shout. In version 1.6
(current stable) I have:
spec for: #pharo do: [
spec
project: 'Shout' with: '1.2.2';
can it be a problem ?
If I remove it Metacello validator raises a critical warning.
Laurent
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Stéph
FWIW, the "pauseless" feature of the algorithm sounds very close (if not
exactly) like VisualWorks' incremental GC, modulo the multithreading.
On 2/26/11 9:46 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Thanks damien for the link :)
Begin forwarded message:
Nice explanation of the Azul Pauseless GC (easier th
Yes but pharo was still loading the version 1.2.1
So normally the latest configurationOfPharo and shout are fixed and working.
Can you confirm that?
Stef
On Feb 28, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Francisco Ortiz Peñaloza wrote:
> Hi Stef don't know if you already solve this, i created a 1.2.2
> version of Con
How do you update?
Because I took 12339 and loaded ConfigurationOfShout and it works
I did the same with configurationOfPhaor and it works.
> Hi,
>
> after updating to this version, Shout starts to fail sendind DNU
> everywere. One of the things i detect was this update loads in my
> image a Sho
I've just finished copying the cleaned up configurations up to
MetacelloRepository.
All of the configurations that are referenced in ConfigurationOfPharo validate
clean ...
I loaded the config into a PHaroCore image, but had a number of failed tests,
but I am running on a mac and I seem to re
Hi Stéph,
why not implement a tool that takes a package, asks the user to
identify the most important class comment, and the creates comments
for all uncommented classes in the package that direct the user to the
most important class comment? The generated comment could use the
squeak code hy
Hi Stef don't know if you already solve this, i created a 1.2.2
version of ConfigurationOfShout referencing some changes i made to
shout to work with Editor changes.
There're like five new versions since that and it's currently working
with PharoCore 1.2 cause i tested a lot :)
Cheers,
Francisco
Hi,
after updating to this version, Shout starts to fail sendind DNU
everywere. One of the things i detect was this update loads in my
image a Shout package signed markus.denker.1...
Is there a way to see what're the changes on an update?
Thanks,
Francisco
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Marc
Found my answer in the ANSI standard (1998) at 5.8.1
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/uploads/172/standard_v1_9-indexed.pdf
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I saw your changes and they did appear to be consistent with the changes I had
made ...
Dale
On Feb 27, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> I think that I fixed the issue with Shout.
> I'm trying to load Pharo configuration now :(
>
> Stef
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How can XML in 1.2 impac
Same guy. "ae" and "ä" are the character
Alexandre
Le 27 févr. 2011 à 21:32, "Schwab,Wilhelm K" a écrit :
> Are Gaelli and Galli the same person? If so, is there a typo, or is it
> simply that the name does not translate easily?
>
> [5] M. Gaelli, O. Nierstrasz, and S. Ducasse. One-method
Yes same guy.
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Are Gaelli and Galli the same person? If so, is there a typo, or is it
> simply that the name does not translate easily?
>
> [5] M. Gaelli, O. Nierstrasz, and S. Ducasse. One-method commands: Linking
> methods and their te
I'll try it with smallUML, it would be great to link diagrams to a package
instead of a special class like it's done now :)
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 6:07 PM, jannik.laval wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There is also a nighty build in hudson server.
>
> Cheers,
> Jannik
>
> On Feb 26, 2011, at 21:48 , Stéphane D
Are Gaelli and Galli the same person? If so, is there a typo, or is it simply
that the name does not translate easily?
[5] M. Gaelli, O. Nierstrasz, and S. Ducasse. One-method commands: Linking
methods and their tests. In OOPSLA Workshop on Revival of Dynamic
Languages. Citeseer, 2004.
[6] M. G
On 27.02.2011, at 23:19, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Norbert,
>
> Have you ever read of shops where people throw code at features and never
> much bother to test what they are doing, because it is "testing's" job to
> catch the bugs ? I had read about it too...
>
Yes, I did. Nearly all of the
Great, an idealist :)
In this case, the problem is flipped: they want tests, but expect that a
hurried effort will fix all of their problems.
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of St
Let's keep the physical descriptions out of it, ok :) But you have the point:
I am looking for published numbers to back up what we all have learned from
experience.
And it has been surprisingly hard to find.
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Steven,
Maybe we all should take some cold meds - you seem very coherent to me; get
well soon. The only thing is that after settling on the shorter time to
completion, you still spend a fraction of your programming effort/time to get
the computer to test your work. It is that fraction that I
Comment #4 on issue 2820 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Format Source shortcut
key (cmd-r) doesn't work
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2820
Eclipse is free to you, but IBM invested >30 million USD before the first
release was made public.
It is really difficult to get details
Norbert,
Have you ever read of shops where people throw code at features and never much
bother to test what they are doing, because it is "testing's" job to catch the
bugs ? I had read about it too...
I understand what you are saying.
Bill
From: pha
Comment #3 on issue 2820 by intrader.intrader: Format Source shortcut key
(cmd-r) doesn't work
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2820
Release testing is not up to snuff. It is very difficult to use tutorial as
nobody bothers to update them to the 'newest' pharo or seaside.
The
I think that I fixed the issue with Shout.
I'm trying to load Pharo configuration now :(
Stef
>>
>>
>>
>> How can XML in 1.2 impacts 1.1 ???
>>
>>
> It's not XML, there is another problem.
>
> Status:
> => 1.2 now builds, without Mocketry. But that has been fixed in the
> meanti
On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Noury Bouraqadi wrote:
> I collect some infos about package and system (versions, dirty).
> I'm an abstract class.
> currentChangedPackages instance method and currentMajorVersionNumber class
> are missing are provided by my wellknown subclass ScriptLoader.
>
> I w
I collect some infos about package and system (versions, dirty).
I'm an abstract class.
currentChangedPackages instance method and currentMajorVersionNumber class are
missing are provided by my wellknown subclass ScriptLoader.
I wonder if some refactoring need to be done here...
On 27 févr. 201
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Francois Stephany <
tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I find it frustrating to load a package and to have no clue where to start.
> The user must scan the classes and guess which one are 'entry points'. Class
> comments does not help there.
>
> For a user perspe
Ok
For me I just wanted to check if I can load shout.
Now it is just breaking on Dev Toolset>>
SHWorkspace open.
I still do not understand how the correct version of shout was loaded before.
Since Pharo was referencing 1.2.1 which was referencing ja
I find it frustrating to load a package and to have no clue where to
start. The user must scan the classes and guess which one are 'entry
points'. Class comments does not help there.
For a user perspective I would prefer to have a HelpSystem indicating
where to start. Now I guess class comment
Oh!
I never worry about "proving" it. When I've worked for clients who
have insisted that I leave the testing out because they don't want to
"pay extra" for the time spent, I simply don't push the tests to their
repo.
I test for myself, because I have a personal commitment to do the best
job poss
Steven, you're making perfect sense to me, and I think almost everyone here
agrees with you.
Bill's problem (if I've understood him correctly) is that he needs to
convince some pointy-haired-boss-type person, by directing him or her to a
well-respected "official" statistic that "proves" what we al
I've always felt that "test driving" code actually results in negative
time spent on "testing". I spend (and everyone I know that tests well
does as well) a lot less time writing code test-first than I ever
would writing the same code without the tests first. Also, I spend far
less time (almost non
On 27.02.2011, at 13:58, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Norbert,
>
> Excellent points - I take exception with only one: you assume that all
> developers test - that is sadly not true. I am involved with a group who
> seem to think that a handful of tests added at the last minute will somehow
> ma
Cesar, Alexandre,
Thanks.
Bill
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Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 2:24 PM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.
Today: Loader
Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment
Rules:
#1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment
will be integrated with name of the author(s).
#2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it.
Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayC
Yes, thus for Bill this mean that for amount of time already expended you need
about the same amount for writing tests. YMMV if the cyclomatic complexity (or
similar metric) is higher of lower than 'average' programs.
In a more commercial scenario, you can cite Gartner's Research Note SPA-19-35
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Hi
>
> why can we put comment in class comment?
> For example I worked on fixing 1.2 and now I want to execute the
> configurationOfPharo and no magic invocation
> JUST A FUCKING EMPTY class comment as usual.
>
>
> So again I feel lik
1.2 one-click on (Arch) Linux (build #160) there's errors too (see below).
So I wonder which VM is used in Hudson ?
10773 run, 10669 passes, 69 expected failures, 6 failures, 29 errors, 0
unexpected passes
Failures:
FileDirectoryTest>>#testRecursiveMatching
ProcessSpecificTest>>#testDynamicVariabl
El dom, 27-02-2011 a las 12:02 +0100, Norbert Hartl escribió:
>
> On 26.02.2011, at 18:55, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Redmine (http://www.redmine.org/) supports sub-projects. Or maybe
> > > https://www.chiliproject.org/ (a fork of redmine).
> >
> > Does anybody has experience
So Stef, I looked at ConfigurationOfPharo-StephaneDucasse.139 and I noticed
that you commented out some package specs for 1.2-beta2 ... you need to be
aware that commenting them out does not prevent those packages from being
loaded
To make structural changes you need to remove the packag
I take the last 1.2 one-click on OSX (build #160), run all tests.
=> tests don't finish because
of SocketStreamTest>>#testUpToAfterCloseNonSignaling which wait infinitely
(however, if you run only SocketStreamTests it works).
So I deselect SocketStreamTests and run again.
Result:
10743 run, 1
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Laurent,
>
> *I* get it - my audience does not.
>
:)
What I've learned:
- people think it will take time to write tests because they don't know what
is testing, they don't know what is TDD, because it's hard (yes, it's
hard).
- showing
I've asked the question three times because people seem to be trying to
convince me (I'm on your side of this) rather than my audience.
Your idea of how much test code gets written would be a fine answer to have.
One of the points I am going to make in the presentation is that tests are code
t
Sure. But the audience is a group that bangs out code and then fixes it later;
I am trying to help them past that, and something quantitative in an ACM or
IEEE journal would be harder to shoot down that our advice, not matter how
correct it might be.
Ok
I do not understand how it loaded before because
I got a duplicate instance warning raised (even if the class loaded was
empty - I do not get it)
So I remove the empty package, fixing the version and the baseline...
Now I have the decompiler popping windows proble
Updates:
Status: FixProposed
Comment #1 on issue 3764 by laurent@gmail.com: Test runner: file out
results sometimes disabled even with existing failures / errors.
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3764
in Inbox:
SLICE-Issue-3764-Test-runner-file-out-results-sometim
On 02/27/2011 06:12 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Understood. But, doing it correctly, how much of your time do you spend on the
test writing/maintenance side?
Far less time than you'll spend manually testing over the course of
writing and maintaining the program. You can't avoid testing, nor
Status: Accepted
Owner: laurent@gmail.com
New issue 3764 by laurent@gmail.com: Test runner: file out results
sometimes disabled even with existing failures / errors.
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3764
in 1.2
Fix coming.
On 27/02/11 7:58 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
I have no problem arguing that testing (if done well) can/will reduce
overall development time; the question is how much of that time one
should expect to devote to writing and maintaining unit and
acceptance tests?
You've asked the question for the
Thanks dale.
Stef
> Since I have edited ConfigurationOfPharo I can add an appropriate comment ...
> I will add comments to the other configurations as well ...
>
> Dale
>
> On Feb 27, 2011, at 7:18 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> why can we put comment in class comment?
>> For exam
Stef,
I will try to take a look at your issue today along with testing out the
configuration fixes I have pending ... both Pharo and Shout had configuration
issues, but I can't say that your particular issue is related ... yet.
Dale
On Feb 27, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Hi gu
Since I have edited ConfigurationOfPharo I can add an appropriate comment ... I
will add comments to the other configurations as well ...
Dale
On Feb 27, 2011, at 7:18 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Hi
>
> why can we put comment in class comment?
> For example I worked on fixing 1.2 and now I w
Hi guys
I modified
version 1.2.1 of ConfigurationOfShout to load my version
Shout-sd.101 (apparently lot of comments were removed between
Benjamin.100 and Benjamin.101 - strange)
In ConfigurationOfPharo there is
project: 'Shout' with: '1.2.1';
Now in ConfigurationOfShout th
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Understood. But, doing it correctly, how much of your time do you spend on
> the test writing/maintenance side?
None. Seriously none. I never pause and say "OK now it's time to write tests
and maintain existing ones". It's part of the T
Hi
why can we put comment in class comment?
For example I worked on fixing 1.2 and now I want to execute the
configurationOfPharo and no magic invocation
JUST A FUCKING EMPTY class comment as usual.
So again I feel like an idiot and I'm trying in the dark. You have NOT A SINGLE
REASON NOT
Comment #23 on issue 3707 by tudor.gi...@gmail.com: Syntax highlighting
looks strange
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3707
I copied the latest Glamour-Morphic-Theme in PharoInbox. In there you have
the method:
GLMUITheme class>>setPreferredShoutColors that has the set of col
Updates:
Status: Closed
Comment #22 on issue 3707 by stephane...@gmail.com: Syntax highlighting
looks strange
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3707
I fixed the configurationOfShout and configurationOfPharo. Now I will try
to load that.
Comment #21 on issue 3707 by stephane...@gmail.com: Syntax highlighting
looks strange
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3707
I published a new version in shout.
Now I'm looking at the configuration. to see if it should be updated. So we
can close this issue.
Comment #20 on issue 3707 by stephane...@gmail.com: Syntax highlighting
looks strange
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3707
Ok I found it.
SHTextStylerST80 initialize should be done after reverting the style.
Comment #19 on issue 3707 by stephane...@gmail.com: Syntax highlighting
looks strange
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3707
so from which image do you have something ok so that I copy it?
Because else this is boring try and error.
Comment #18 on issue 3707 by stephane...@gmail.com: Syntax highlighting
looks strange
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3707
but I'm not experimenting. Reverting to the one of 1.1 does not remove the
bold!
Comment #17 on issue 3707 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Syntax highlighting
looks strange
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3707
Not only the bold. Just revert to the 1.1 style. Let's then experiment in
1.3
Comment #16 on issue 3707 by stephane...@gmail.com: Syntax highlighting
looks strange
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3707
Ok I will remove the bold and we can integrate it.
Hi,
On 27 Feb 2011, at 12:04, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
- Lukas went over the WeakAnnouncements implementation to get the
WeakMessageSend working. The code is in PharoTaskForces
>>>
>>> should we take action on this one?
>>> I mean integrating it.
>>
>> It can be integrated, because th
Robert Martin said in his book that one should spend ~50% of its time writing
tests.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 27 Feb 2011, at 00:52, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Can anyone recommend a good reference on the amount of time one should expect
> to spend writing tests? I will have to be
11421
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Issue 3575:[Failing Tests] Obsolete classes after tests (workaround)
--
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INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
Updates:
Labels: -Milestone-1.1.2-DevImage
Comment #10 on issue 3575 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: [Failing Tests]
Obsolete classes after tests
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3575
in 11421
Updates:
Labels: -Milestone-1.2-DevImage
Comment #9 on issue 3575 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: [Failing Tests] Obsolete
classes after tests
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3575
in 12339
12339
-
Issue 3575: [Failing Tests] Obsolete classes after tests (workaround)
--
Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de
INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
Updates:
Status: Accepted
Comment #11 on issue 3620 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Settings: OCompletion
settings appear twice
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3620
So what is the *simplest* *easiest* workaround for this so that we can
actually release 1.2?
Updates:
Status: Duplicate
Mergedinto: 3645
Comment #7 on issue 3484 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Windows VM in One click
image for 1.2 not yet customized
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3484
(No comment was entered for this change.)
Updates:
Cc: marcus.denker stephane.ducasse
Comment #3 on issue 3645 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Update Hudson One-Click
build files for 1.2
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3645
Issue 3484 has been merged into this issue.
Understood. But, doing it correctly, how much of your time do you spend on the
test writing/maintenance side? I found some blog posts, but I was hoping for
some peer-reviewed papers that go on the record.
I am trying to make the point you are making, and it will go over better if I
can point
Comment #8 on issue 3575 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: [Failing Tests] Obsolete
classes after tests
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3575
As this just happens after running all tests, I propose to remove the
Obselete classes test in 1.1 and 1.2 and move the problem to be fixed in
Updates:
Status: FixProposed
Comment #15 on issue 3707 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: Syntax highlighting
looks strange
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3707
(No comment was entered for this change.)
Updates:
Status: FixProposed
Comment #1 on issue 3732 by marcus.d...@gmail.com: default omni browser
size bigger
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3732
fix attached.
This just makes the window minmally as big as the standard browser
Attachments:
OBBrowser-initi
Norbert,
Excellent points - I take exception with only one: you assume that all
developers test - that is sadly not true. I am involved with a group who seem
to think that a handful of tests added at the last minute will somehow
magically fix their problems.
I have no problem arguing that t
On Feb 27, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Tobias Pape wrote:
> Am 2011-02-27 um 13:16 schrieb Marcus Denker:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I tried to load the glamour based tools:
>>
>> Gofer new squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust';
>> load.
>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform
Am 2011-02-27 um 13:16 schrieb Marcus Denker:
> Hi,
>
> I tried to load the glamour based tools:
>
> Gofer new squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust';
> load.
> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault.
>
> And got this error:
>
> NameLookupFai
Hi,
I tried to load the glamour based tools:
Gofer new squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust';
load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault.
And got this error:
NameLookupFailure: Could not resolve the server named: seaside.gemstone.com
(Gof
On Feb 27, 2011, at 9:11 AM, laurent laffont wrote:
>
>
>
> How can XML in 1.2 impacts 1.1 ???
>
>
It's not XML, there is another problem.
Status:
=> 1.2 now builds, without Mocketry. But that has been fixed in the
meantime, so we can add it back.
(it seems removi
Comment #7 on issue 3575 by m...@mjr104.co.uk: [Failing Tests] Obsolete
classes after tests
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3575
Hi, some of the obsolete classes are being held onto by Tools->Recent
Messages. Look at the bottom of the list.
>>> - Lukas went over the WeakAnnouncements implementation to get the
>>> WeakMessageSend working. The code is in PharoTaskForces
>>
>> should we take action on this one?
>> I mean integrating it.
>
> It can be integrated, because the base code works in the same way as before.
>
> Currently, th
On 26.02.2011, at 18:55, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>
>> Redmine (http://www.redmine.org/) supports sub-projects. Or maybe
>> https://www.chiliproject.org/ (a fork of redmine).
>
> Does anybody has experience with them?
> It would be good to be able to play with them.
I just want to ask if
Hi,
On 27.02.2011, at 04:52, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Can anyone recommend a good reference on the amount of time one should expect
> to spend writing tests? I will have to be the messenger (will be wearing
> running shoes just in case...), but I want the message to come from
I also I cannot load Keymapping 1.5 in Pharo 1.2. I get DNU for Character>>+.
This is due to an initialization in KMKeyEvent (see the attached debug log).
I did the followings:
Gofer it
squeaksource: 'Keymapping';
package: 'ConfigurationOfKeymapping';
load.
(ConfigurationOfKeymapping project ver
Hi,
On 27 Feb 2011, at 08:58, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>> ...
>> - Lukas went over the WeakAnnouncements implementation to get the
>> WeakMessageSend working. The code is in PharoTaskForces
>
> should we take action on this one?
> I mean integrating it.
It can be integrated, because the base c
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> 1.2 should go out. Marcus and me should spend their time on 1.3, OPAL and
> the rest.
>
Yes
Now for PharoDev we want to remove packages that are not about tools.
> If you want XML, openDBX... help us using Metacello to buil
On Feb 27, 2011, at 1:06 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
> Why do you think the break of 1.1 build is xml related?
This is what marcus was saying. May be the configuration did not point to the
right version.
> To me it appears either a PharoSound or metacello problem. The build is
> unable to load
Yes we should do that.
Now the problem with the xml package is not even that.
If we include package like that then for example each time a project like moose
which use it wants to use
the latest version (it will happen during at least 6 months) then they/we will
have a problem because
the system
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