[Pharo-project] Fwd: job opportunity

In case you didn't see the announcement on the Squeak-def list ... Begin forwarded message: From: Prof David West mailto:profw...@fastmail.fm>> Date: May 7, 2011 7:45:39 AM PDT To: "squeak-...@lists.squeakfoundation.org" mailto:squeak-...@lists.squ

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

On 07 May 2011, at 16:33, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 7 May 2011 10:41, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> Too bad. The eclipse license is not for us. >> > I'm not a lawyer, but reading it, it looks like this license are > compatible with MIT. My understanding is that the EPL requires 'derived work' to

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

On 05/07/2011 07:27 PM, Michael Haupt wrote: Toon, Am 07.05.2011 um 16:56 schrieb Toon Verwaest: I do agree that we could do something in this regard. But given that we could "do something" almost everywhere, it is hard to say if this topic should take priority. Currently my plate is full. So,

[Pharo-project] How to load Nautilus?

I took the latest PharoCore 1.3 and evaluated: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Nautilus'; package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; load. ConfigurationOfNautilus project lastVersion load But it says This package depends on the following classes: SystemAnnoun

Re: [Pharo-project] WebDoc, SimpleWebDoc and Pharo website

On May 7, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi guys. One of the things I hate most is when there is a cool > tool/documentation available and we don't spread it. > > I know Laurent did SimpleWebDoc a couple of months ago. > > Then Camillo did it again...and call it WebDoc. > But

[Pharo-project] WebDoc, SimpleWebDoc and Pharo website

Hi guys. One of the things I hate most is when there is a cool tool/documentation available and we don't spread it. I know Laurent did SimpleWebDoc a couple of months ago. Then Camillo did it again...and call it WebDoc. But...still, from the user point of view, there is nothing. You go to the Ph

Re: [Pharo-project] PetitParser puzzle

On 6 May 2011 19:13, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Here you test if the parser can consume all of the string. But it different > to the situation if the parser succeeds. A star parser always succeeds. And > the operator / only matches of the parser on the left side couldn't succeed. > In the "line" ca

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Meeting in Europe

Ok, this is Eastern Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Europe I'm going to Budapest and then Praga, if I have enough budget I will take a train to France, it would be cool to find some smalltalkers. Cheers, 2011/5/3 Stéphane Ducasse : > what is eastern europe? > we are at one hour from

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

Hi Igor, Am 07.05.2011 um 16:54 schrieb Igor Stasenko : > I do agree that we could do something in this regard. But given that > we could "do something" almost everywhere, it is hard to say if this > topic should take priority. Currently my plate is full. So, its not > about that there are someone

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

Toon, Am 07.05.2011 um 16:56 schrieb Toon Verwaest : > >> I do agree that we could do something in this regard. But given that >> we could "do something" almost everywhere, it is hard to say if this >> topic should take priority. Currently my plate is full. So, its not >> about that there are som

[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13185

13185 - - Fix FlatBrowser not to use PluggableTexMorphWithLimits (since this is in nautilus for now). - Issue 4142: Never use a leadingChar for byte char. Thanks levente and Nicolas Cellier. - Issue 4090: Better default template for absent class comment. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC Connection in Pharo 1.1.1

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Markus Fritsche < fritsche.mar...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hello Sourav, > > SqueakDBX (http://squeakdbx.org/) has an odbc backend. Yep, but in addition you can use directly the database client library instead of ODBC, which most of the times is better. The ODBC b

Re: [Pharo-project] DBXTalk (SqueakDBX) goes to Pharo 1.3

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Alain rastoul wrote: > ++ > :) > Will test mssql asap (next week) > > Cool. If you have problem ask because there were a couple of persons working with MSSQL recently so they may help :) You can ask here or in the mailing list http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mai

Re: [Pharo-project] documentation searchability (was "Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry")

we will ;) Don't worry :) On May 7, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Craig Latta wrote: > >> ...we will convert our lovely books from pdf to html-crap. > > Please do keep the PDFs crawlable by search engines, though. I get > PDF hits in my search results all the time, and I appreciate being able > to see

Re: [Pharo-project] documentation searchability (was "Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry")

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Craig Latta wrote: > > > ...we will convert our lovely books from pdf to html-crap. > > Please do keep the PDFs crawlable by search engines, though. I get > PDF hits in my search results all the time, and I appreciate being able > to see the layout the way the

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Esug-list] job opportunity

-- Forwarded message -- From: David West Date: Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:35 PM Subject: [Esug-list] job opportunity To: esug-l...@lists.esug.org My apologies for the short lead time, but I need a person that is very conversant with Squeak-Seaside-Pharo-Pier-GLASS plus an interest and

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

I do agree that we could do something in this regard. But given that we could "do something" almost everywhere, it is hard to say if this topic should take priority. Currently my plate is full. So, its not about that there are someone says "no we don't want it ", its mainly about lack of resourc

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

On 7 May 2011 14:34, Michael Haupt wrote: > Hi Igor, > > Am 07.05.2011 um 13:37 schrieb Igor Stasenko : >>> What market are you talking about? There are lots and lots of customers of >>> certain big database/appliance vendors that would loudly protest had the >>> stuff they bought no inherent supp

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

On 7 May 2011 10:41, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Too bad. The eclipse license is not for us. > I'm not a lawyer, but reading it, it looks like this license are compatible with MIT. > Now do you imply that Process should use your primitive? > > Stef > >> On 07 May 2011, at 09:19, Stéphane Ducasse wr

Re: [Pharo-project] PBE in HTML [was: Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry]

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:51 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < > stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote: > >> I installed pdf to html but I could not make it run :( > > > htlatex seems OK, we can start with this. Need to supply a nice CSS though. > I will t

Re: [Pharo-project] documentation searchability (was "Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry")

> ...we will convert our lovely books from pdf to html-crap. Please do keep the PDFs crawlable by search engines, though. I get PDF hits in my search results all the time, and I appreciate being able to see the layout the way the authors intended. My PDF viewer can search through the text ju

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

Hi Igor, Am 07.05.2011 um 13:37 schrieb Igor Stasenko : >> What market are you talking about? There are lots and lots of customers of >> certain big database/appliance vendors that would loudly protest had the >> stuff they bought no inherent support for parallel execution. > > So, where those cu

[Pharo-project] RoarVM (Was: Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry)

On 07 May 2011, at 10:41, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Too bad. The eclipse license is not for us. I know, other reason to 'steal' the ideas and integrate them into Cog. And I can't do that, because all code that is derived from what we do with the RoarVM will probably need to be EPL (as far as I u

[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13184

13184 - - Issue 4162: AbstractTool. Thanks Benjamin van Ryseghem. - Issue 4156: New widgets for senders/implementors. Thanks Benjamin van Ryseghem. - Issue 4163: RecentSubmission with Flat Browser. Thanks Benjamin van Ryseghem. One step more to get rid of StringHolder crap. W

[Pharo-project] VMs and Parallelism (Was: Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry)

On 07 May 2011, at 13:37, Igor Stasenko wrote: > So, where those customers to sponsor development of VM(s) they need so much? In general? They are with the 'cool kids': http://luajit.org/sponsors.html Nothing multicore-ish thought > That's the main problem, IMO. Most smalltalkers i met (oh.

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

On 7 May 2011 08:54, Douglas Brebner wrote: > On 07/05/2011 01:06, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> On 6 May 2011 23:45, Stefan Marr  wrote: >>> >>> On 06 May 2011, at 19:08, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>> How about CogVM? Should we stop developing it? Or we should start supporting both? And can we

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

On 7 May 2011 07:25, Michael Haupt wrote: > Hi Igor, > > Am 07.05.2011 um 02:06 schrieb Igor Stasenko : > > Heh.. then we're 99% done. Except that this last 1% is still could > take years to complete :) > > you serious? Making a Smalltalk image thread-safe is that hard? > > I can tell you more: th

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

Too bad. The eclipse license is not for us. Now do you imply that Process should use your primitive? Stef > On 07 May 2011, at 09:19, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> when and where did you announce that? >> Where is the code? > > http://forum.world.st/RoarVM-The-Manycore-SqueakVM-td3025321.html >

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

On 07 May 2011, at 09:19, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > when and where did you announce that? > Where is the code? http://forum.world.st/RoarVM-The-Manycore-SqueakVM-td3025321.html And here the MVC compatibility code: https://github.com/smarr/RoarVM/raw/master/image.st/RVM-multicore-support.mvc.

Re: [Pharo-project] PBE in HTML [was: Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry]

On 07 May 2011, at 09:46, laurent laffont wrote: > oh, it's the first thing I've learned in Pharo. Right-click, do it :) Great! This should become a famous quote. Sven

Re: [Pharo-project] PBE in HTML [was: Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry]

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > this would be gorgeous. > I like your doing spirit laurent! > oh, it's the first thing I've learned in Pharo. Right-click, do it :) Laurent > > Stef > > On May 6, 2011, at 6:51 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 6, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [COTDC] 60 - DirectoryURI

do it. One idea was to replace all the file ref with URI but for later. Stef On May 6, 2011, at 11:46 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > I'd love to :). > > And OpaqueUri can be removed by just adding an attribute to URI for the > boolean ;) > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:06 PM, laurent laffont > wr

Re: [Pharo-project] Send a notification

alex drop some notes in a file if you see what I mean :) Stef On May 6, 2011, at 11:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Thanks, > > Alexandre > > > On 6 May 2011, at 15:59, Jan van de Sandt wrote: > >> >> On May 6, 2011 8:45 PM, "Alexandre Bergel" wrote: >>> As long as your SMTP doesn't

Re: [Pharo-project] PBE in HTML [was: Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry]

this would be gorgeous. I like your doing spirit laurent! Stef On May 6, 2011, at 6:51 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > wrote: > I installed pdf to html but I could not make it run :( > > htlatex seems OK, we can start with this. Need to suppl

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

Thanks I may look at it. as well as the library dave mentioned. but busy Stef On May 7, 2011, at 3:00 AM, csra...@bol.com.br wrote: > Em 06/05/2011 06:34, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.duca...@inria.fr > escreveu: > >> Probably we should find a way to generate HTML from PDF or Latex. > > From

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

On May 7, 2011, at 2:49 AM, Stefan Marr wrote: > > On 07 May 2011, at 02:06, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> On 6 May 2011 23:45, Stefan Marr wrote: >>> There is nothing fundamental in the RoarVM that is changing the language >>> semantics of Smalltalk. >>> >>> It is just that for: `[do something]

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

> > Once, for Squeak VM, i made an implementation to move scheduling away > from VM into language. > It was fully working, and you were free to change scheduling logic > without touching VM anymore. > What you think how many people reacted to that? How many of them would > like to pursue this furt

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

this is the story of a funny guy that went to the beer fest at Munich and stand up on the table took the mic and shouted that he hated beer and that germans were women becaise only water was important the story does not say what the guy became. Thanks stefan, your point about web presence

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

On May 6, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Dave Mason wrote: > On May 6, 2011, at 13:25, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> Seriously, if you want such kind of shitty interface, which allows you >> to call arbitrary function with arbitrary arguments >> without any argument type checking, i can write it for you. > > We

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

>> Seriously, if you want such kind of shitty interface, which allows you >> to call arbitrary function with arbitrary arguments >> without any argument type checking, i can write it for you. > > call me crazy but: yes i would like that interface. > > ctypes works very well. i have used it plen

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

> >> Ah, and the day has just 24h so don't expect anything from me beside the VM >> work, thats already enough to keep a whole team busy. > > This statement is true for most of us, just replace "VM" with something else. > > About RoarVM. > I think the main reason why RoarVM does not exists for

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

Laurent igor is right if the bindings are done and package then of course this is different than just calling them. Stef > > > Is it works because someone already provided a bindings for libraries > you mention, > or you did it by yourself? > > Have just used ctypes: > > >>> import ctypes >

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

>> >> So what are you doing here, the less the noise the best for everyone >> else. You don't contribute, you only criticize, and then you said you >> don't care, the we don't care about your "opinion". You can keep it for >> yourself. > > Well, I think my work on the RoarVM is some contribution,