Re: [Pharo-project] Squeaksource.com (was: [squeak-dev] Re: Addition to "About Pharo" dialog)

2011-08-28 Thread Alexander Lazarević
2011/8/27 Bert Freudenberg > The Chile mirror is up. > Just learned about that one. Thanks! While it seems more stable indeed, it also gets much less traffic. I'n not > sure it would handle the load of squeaksource.com as well. > Ok, but spreading the workload on to more than one SqueakSource

Re: [Pharo-project] Halt

2011-08-28 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > Back in the days, we were virtually crucified for introducing the Beeper > class along the > same reasoning... > > The Beeper actually got very depressed due to having his very existance being > questioned. > > "I am just the result of a ran

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Exactly. I am the first to disable both, but there is nothing personal in it. Well, it *IS* personal, but simply my personal preference to type vs. having lists block my view of the code. I think it is great that the tools exist and provide good service to those who want them.

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Francisco Ortiz Peñaloza
In fact Pharo 1.3 uses OCompletion built on top of ECompletion[1] and RoelTyper. I just looked at 1.4 and it looks simpler but OCompletion works great for me! I think is a great tool but it's not well integrated (cause there's been a lot of changes, new editors and yada yada yada) IMHO it does't

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Frank Shearar
On 28 August 2011 21:18, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Damien Cassou wrote: >> >> > > Cool! That would make a big difference. Where are they/what are they called? I know of Roel Wuyts' RoelTyper (http://decomp.ulb.ac.be/roelwuyts/smalltalk/roeltyper/) and Lex Spoon's Chuck (http://www.lexspoon.org/

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Damien Cassou wrote: > > Cool! That would make a big difference. Where are they/what are they called? Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-1-4-tp3759684p3774973.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:41 PM, nullPointer wrote: > I don´t understand the behavior of any completion mechanism than works on > Pharo/Squeak. When I type a literal, for example "1000" and later type "fac" > appears always a great number of messages from system than nothing have > relation with t

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread nullPointer
I don´t understand the behavior of any completion mechanism than works on Pharo/Squeak. When I type a literal, for example "1000" and later type "fac" appears always a great number of messages from system than nothing have relation with the object where we doing message call. I´ll wait for example

Re: [Pharo-project] Omnibrowser in 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Jan van de Sandt
I think Lukas means Nautilus. [1] http://www.squeaksource.com/Nautilus.html On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.mora...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/8/28 Lukas Renggli : > > There are currently no plans to make OB work in upcoming Pharo > > versions; Pharo 1.4 is supposed

Re: [Pharo-project] Omnibrowser in 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
2011/8/28 Lukas Renggli : > There are currently no plans to make OB work in upcoming Pharo > versions; Pharo 1.4 is supposed to have its own much better browser > framework. > Which framework?

Re: [Pharo-project] Halt

2011-08-28 Thread Marcus Denker
On Aug 28, 2011, at 8:10 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > We have a class Halt and the class-side is empty. This seems to be the > right place to hold all the code in the protocols #debugging and > #debuggin-haltonce of Object. With a few renames we could get a really > nice DSL: > >Halt now. >

Re: [Pharo-project] Halt

2011-08-28 Thread Lukas Renggli
We have a class Halt and the class-side is empty. This seems to be the right place to hold all the code in the protocols #debugging and #debuggin-haltonce of Object. With a few renames we could get a really nice DSL: Halt now. Halt if: a = 2. Halt once. Lukas On 28 August 2011 19:47

Re: [Pharo-project] What does FixedWaitingToBePharoed mean?

2011-08-28 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
This is a fix proposed for squeak and we should have a look because it should be probably adapted to pharo. On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/What-does-FixedWaitingToBePharoed-mean-tp3774520p3774520.html > Sen

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoInbox broken?

2011-08-28 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Tx we will fix that :) Stef On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >> >> Fix in *new* inbox - Monticello-SeanDeNigris.532 :) >> > > The fix I uploaded is a start, but does not fix the problem i.e. the old > inbox still shows in the MC Browser > > --

Re: [Pharo-project] Halt

2011-08-28 Thread Marcus Denker
On Aug 28, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > 2. Using Object to halt causes bloat, and doesn't buy much (except that's > how we've always done it). Back in the days, we were virtually crucified for introducing the Beeper class along the same reasoning... The Beeper actually got

[Pharo-project] Halt

2011-08-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
The halt code is a mess. There are several open issues and should be several more. Here's what I found today... 1. Object>>setHaltOnce and friends are misleading See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2621 All the accessors for the global HaltOnce are on the instance side of Object, m

[Pharo-project] What does FixedWaitingToBePharoed mean?

2011-08-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
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Re: [Pharo-project] PharoInbox broken?

2011-08-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Fix in *new* inbox - Monticello-SeanDeNigris.532 :) > The fix I uploaded is a start, but does not fix the problem i.e. the old inbox still shows in the MC Browser -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/PharoInbox-broken-tp3774478p3774508.html Sent f

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoInbox broken?

2011-08-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Okay, I got it. The inbox has moved to http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/PharoInbox However, the MC Browser in Pharo 1.4 still points to the old one. I started an issue (http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4711) and fixed the only reference I found in the sources - MCHttpRepository class>>inb

[Pharo-project] PharoInbox broken?

2011-08-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
I'm getting an authentication error when trying to upload to PharoInbox and it is listed read-only on sqs. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/PharoInbox-broken-tp3774478p3774478.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] Omnibrowser in 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > So you see we are improving the core image. > Okay, I got it. Thank you Lukas and Steph. Sounds good. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Omnibrowser-in-1-4-tp3774180p3774411.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabbl

Re: [Pharo-project] Addition to "About Pharo" dialog

2011-08-28 Thread Germán Arduino
2011/8/28 Stéphane Ducasse : > The plan for SmalltalkHub are >        - gemstone back-end >        - inria hosting >        - replication on three locations Replication: This is about what I talked on my previous mail, excellent. > > So soon (when nicolas decide) we will start a beta phase: we wi

Re: [Pharo-project] Addition to "About Pharo" dialog

2011-08-28 Thread Germán Arduino
2011/8/28 Stéphane Ducasse : > > On Aug 28, 2011, at 4:32 AM, Germán Arduino wrote: > >> I think that having problems in software is a common reality, unfortunately. >> >> May be Squeaksource and it's servers (I don't know) are having a lot >> in these days, but the point I would mention is that is

Re: [Pharo-project] Plan for releases: after 1.4 I propose that we do a stabilization release

2011-08-28 Thread Luc Fabresse
2011/8/27 Sean P. DeNigris > > Damien Cassou wrote: > > > > and I think it is a good idea. > > > > +1. And it comes at a great time now that FS and Zinc will be in the image > - > they were so needed! > +1 It would be great to have RPackage also because it will imply a lot of changes that need s

Re: [Pharo-project] Omnibrowser in 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Aug 28, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >> There are currently no plans to make OB work in upcoming Pharo >> versions; Pharo 1.4 is supposed to have its own much better browser >> framework. People can use OB if they want. Since we never maintained OB

Re: [Pharo-project] Omnibrowser in 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Lukas Renggli wrote: > > There are currently no plans to make OB work in upcoming Pharo > versions; Pharo 1.4 is supposed to have its own much better browser > framework. > Until that happens, all development in Pharo 1.4 will be done without a refactoring browser? -- View this message in cont

Re: [Pharo-project] Omnibrowser in 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Lukas Renggli
There are currently no plans to make OB work in upcoming Pharo versions; Pharo 1.4 is supposed to have its own much better browser framework. On 28 August 2011 11:59, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Oh forgot to mention, "(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser) project > latestVersion load" from Me

Re: [Pharo-project] Omnibrowser in 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Oh forgot to mention, "(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser) project latestVersion load" from MetacelloRepository seemed maybe old, with references to Preferences, and errors after loading. S -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Omnibrowser-in-1-4-tp3774180p3774181.html S

[Pharo-project] Omnibrowser in 1.4

2011-08-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Does anyone have OB working in 1.4? Thanks. Sean (On an extended vacation in Edinburgh for most of the week thanks to hurricane Irene) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Omnibrowser-in-1-4-tp3774180p3774180.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: [Pharo-project] squeaksource is down

2011-08-28 Thread Fabrizio Perin
Hi, the guy that can access the servers passed by the institute and restarted the server. So squeaksource is back online. Cheers, Fabrizio 2011/8/28 Germán Arduino > Yes, it's the Latam mirror: > > http://forum.world.st/ANN-LatAm-Squeaksource-Mirror-online-again-tt3768500.html > > I don't kno

Re: [Pharo-project] Addition to "About Pharo" dialog

2011-08-28 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
The plan for SmalltalkHub are - gemstone back-end - inria hosting - replication on three locations So soon (when nicolas decide) we will start a beta phase: we will push seaside pharo and a lot more in Smalltalkhub and launch some queries to stress test. Then we will dep

Re: [Pharo-project] Addition to "About Pharo" dialog

2011-08-28 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Aug 28, 2011, at 4:32 AM, Germán Arduino wrote: > I think that having problems in software is a common reality, unfortunately. > > May be Squeaksource and it's servers (I don't know) are having a lot > in these days, but the point I would mention is that is needed to > think in "availability"