[Pharo-project] SqueakSource

2011-11-30 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Can someone please have another look at SqueakSource, it is down ? Thx, Sven

Re: [Pharo-project] [COTDC] 86 - TextURL

2011-11-30 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
This is a subclass of TextAction which is a subclass of TextAttribute Hierarchy: TextAttribute TextAction PluggableTextAttribute TextDoIt TextPrintIt TextLink TextURL Is anyone using any of this? I've never heard it mentioned and vote to remove TextAction and all of its su

Re: [Pharo-project] [ VM ]Smalltalk getSystemAttribute:

2011-11-30 Thread Eliot Miranda
My initial implementation was in error. I've now changed it back to 0 => executable name -1 .. -n => VM arguments *including* image (if explicitly supplied). Apologies. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote: > > we will have to check if th

Re: [Pharo-project] VM page in pharo book is outdated

2011-11-30 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, Sig, Thanks for the preview! One thing that jumped out at me so far is the passing of strings by copy. Interestingly, I can't find an example (in my code where I would have sworn I had a few) of having an external library fill a string, but I know I have encountered it and wonder if/how

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: New Cog VMs available at...

2011-11-30 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Alexander Lazarević wrote: > 2011/11/29 Eliot Miranda > >> -1 => executable name >> -2 .. -n => VM arguments *including* image (if explicitly >> supplied). >> > > Before we had (at least on Linux and I guess with the StackVM): > >

Re: [Pharo-project] Athens work in progress: couple screenshots

2011-11-30 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 30 November 2011 20:27, Fernando Olivero wrote: > Yes, i hit cmd . a couple of times! > > Regarding the Rome related classes, they are part of what should be > cleaned out right? > The same with  Tweak. > Right. I just didn't wanted to throw out code , made by Cyrille without even taking a look

Re: [Pharo-project] [COTDC] 86 - TextURL

2011-11-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I'm a text attribute used to encode an URL. On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Poor little TextURL, no one cares about you :( > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/COTDC-86-TextURL-tp4119838p4124600.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] [COTDC] 86 - TextURL

2011-11-30 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Poor little TextURL, no one cares about you :( -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/COTDC-86-TextURL-tp4119838p4124600.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] Athens work in progress: couple screenshots

2011-11-30 Thread Fernando Olivero
Yes, i hit cmd . a couple of times! Regarding the Rome related classes, they are part of what should be cleaned out right? The same with Tweak. I've been planning to add Pango support, should i create a new repo, or put it alongside Athens? Fernando pd:What about moving to squeaksource 3? O

Re: [Pharo-project] object format of true, false, nil and others...

2011-11-30 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
The synonym, "by graduate students," requires less typing :) From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Igor Stasenko [siguc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:14 PM To: Ph

Re: [Pharo-project] VM page in pharo book is outdated

2011-11-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
everything is public no secret https://gforge.inria.fr/scm/viewvc.php/?root=pharobooks just a lot of work …. and pain with english Stef On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 30 November 2011 18:56, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: >> Stef, >> >> Apologies if I am exploiting

Re: [Pharo-project] object format of true, false, nil and others...

2011-11-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Mate is an experiment to see how to bootstrap VM representation and assembly generation. It is just the start. Now I was looking at how format is represented. Because systemTracer is doing that taking on object and either map it to another or transforming the object header.

Re: [Pharo-project] VM page in pharo book is outdated

2011-11-30 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 30 November 2011 18:56, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Stef, > > Apologies if I am exploiting something you meant to send privately, but > "draft of a chapter" on FFI?!! :) :) :) > > I'm no expert, but I certainly like to see what is being written.  It is > difficult to imagine how I could

Re: [Pharo-project] object format of true, false, nil and others...

2011-11-30 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 30 November 2011 10:01, Luc Fabresse wrote: >> right now I just need a placeholder after I imagine that the >> specialObjectArray and system tracer can let me specify what I want in the >> resulting image. > > yes > >> >> And may be I could use mate explicit object format description to migrate

Re: [Pharo-project] VM page in pharo book is outdated

2011-11-30 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Stef, Apologies if I am exploiting something you meant to send privately, but "draft of a chapter" on FFI?!! :) :) :) I'm no expert, but I certainly like to see what is being written. It is difficult to imagine how I could fail to learn something from it. Bill

Re: [Pharo-project] VM page in pharo book is outdated

2011-11-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
serge did you have a look at the draft of the ffi chapter? Stef On Nov 30, 2011, at 2:12 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Esteban Lorenzano > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Checking the pharo colaboractive book, I found that the VM building is old >> and it is not compa

Re: [Pharo-project] Guess who is down?

2011-11-30 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 30 Nov 2011, at 14:22, Fabrizio Perin wrote: > It is alive but slow. I will put squeaksource down for 10 min. try again > later. It seems to be OK again, thanks Fabrizio! Sven

Re: [Pharo-project] Windows disappear in saved image on startup

2011-11-30 Thread Larry Kellogg
Hello Stef, Thanks for the reply. Sorry for the delay in responding. I have been working on a local copy of Pharo. I will have to get back to the Amazon instance at some point in the near future. It would be great if I didn't have to start from scratch. >> Did you publish your packages? No,

Re: [Pharo-project] Guess who is down?

2011-11-30 Thread Felipe Bañados Schwerter
If you just need to retrieve packages from squeaksource, you might use the chilean mirror http://dsal.cl/squeaksource/ On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Fabrizio Perin wrote: > It is alive but slow. I will put squeaksource down for 10 min. try again > later. > > Cheers, > Fabrizio > > > 2011/11/3

Re: [Pharo-project] Guess who is down?

2011-11-30 Thread Fabrizio Perin
It is alive but slow. I will put squeaksource down for 10 min. try again later. Cheers, Fabrizio 2011/11/30 Sven Van Caekenberghe > > On 30 Nov 2011, at 11:23, Bernat Romagosa wrote: > > > Squeaksource! > > > > -- > > Bernat Romagosa. > > Well, it seems to be there, but it is extremely, unusabl

Re: [Pharo-project] [ VM ]Smalltalk getSystemAttribute:

2011-11-30 Thread Lorenzo Schiavina
Ho corretto e ho portato l'eseguibile nella direttrice; controlli, perchè con la rete in queste condizioni è impossibile: ci mette 10-15 secondi per eseguire un comando Mi faccia sapere Saluti - Original Message - From: Stéphane Ducasse To: An open mailing list to discuss any t

[Pharo-project] [ VM ]Smalltalk getSystemAttribute:

2011-11-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
we will have to check if this impacts some of our parameter handling. Stef Begin forwarded message: > VM.r2518/. > > CogVM binaries as per VMMaker.oscog-eem.139/r2518. > > Add access to VM arguments to Mac. Make Windows, Mac and Unix consistent: > Smalltalk getSystemAttribute: >

Re: [Pharo-project] Guess who is down?

2011-11-30 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 30 Nov 2011, at 11:55, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Yes, I gave up a couple of weeks ago: > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2011/11/08/migrating-projects-to-squeaksource3/ > > Very nice writeup, Mariano. Thank you! > > Th

Re: [Pharo-project] Guess who is down?

2011-11-30 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 30 Nov 2011, at 11:55, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Yes, I gave up a couple of weeks ago: > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2011/11/08/migrating-projects-to-squeaksource3/ Very nice writeup, Mariano. Thank you! The problem is of course less one's own packages, but the big packages we de

Re: [Pharo-project] Guess who is down?

2011-11-30 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Yes, I gave up a couple of weeks ago: http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2011/11/08/migrating-projects-to-squeaksource3/ On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Bernat Romagosa < tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com> wrote: > Squeaksource! > > -- > Bernat Romagosa. > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress

Re: [Pharo-project] Guess who is down?

2011-11-30 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 30 Nov 2011, at 11:23, Bernat Romagosa wrote: > Squeaksource! > > -- > Bernat Romagosa. Well, it seems to be there, but it is extremely, unusably slow….

[Pharo-project] Guess who is down?

2011-11-30 Thread Bernat Romagosa
Squeaksource! -- Bernat Romagosa.

Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic replacement

2011-11-30 Thread H. Hirzel
On 11/30/11, Fernando Olivero wrote: > > I'm kinda stuck with finding a name for it, because Gaucho is the name > of IDE that will be built on top of it. > > > Fernando What about 'shapes' in Spanish or Italian? At least for the moment It is has a name then it becomes identifiable as an artif

Re: [Pharo-project] Morphic replacement

2011-11-30 Thread Fernando Olivero
Thanks Sean, for now not much, once i release it would be nice if people try out the examples, run the tests, and hopefully prefer it over current UI frameworks and start building apps (widgets) on top of it, and helping me improve it. I'm kinda stuck with finding a name for it, because Gaucho is

Re: [Pharo-project] object format of true, false, nil and others...

2011-11-30 Thread Luc Fabresse
> > right now I just need a placeholder after I imagine that the > specialObjectArray and system tracer can let me specify what I want in the > resulting image. > yes > And may be I could use mate explicit object format description to migrate > (instead of systemTracer). > what is mate? ;-) Why

Re: [Pharo-project] object format of true, false, nil and others...

2011-11-30 Thread Luc Fabresse
Hi Stef, I was reading the bootstrap of Mate and it should be close to the one of > pinocchio. > What is "tha bootstrap of Mate"? Luc > I'm reading also micro squeak and gst > But I should bump into the walls to progress. > > Stef > > >

Re: [Pharo-project] object format of true, false, nil and others...

2011-11-30 Thread Luc Fabresse
Hi Javier, 2011/11/24 Javier Pimás > We do the same for our bootstrapper. Which boostrapper are you talking about? Thanks Luc > First allocate space for the objects used by the metamodel: Metaclass, > Class, Behavior, Object, UndefinedObject, True, False, their instances, > metaclasses, et

Re: [Pharo-project] Athens work in progress: couple screenshots

2011-11-30 Thread Igor Stasenko
Thanks, Fernando. There's one more thing: it takes like 20 seconds to load a library. When i first time run the example, i thought that it is going to crash, because of colorful wheel appeared instead of mouse pointer (usually a sign that VM going to crash ;). But it worked from first start. I don'