Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.4 beta?

2012-03-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Mar 2, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: Am 02.03.2012 um 09:48 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr: Hi guys I would like to see Pharo 1.4 going beta = focus on bugs, less changes. Does it make sense? Of course. And you know this. Release early,

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for a package to do some statistics in Pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Douglas McPherson
Indeed, you should check out DHBNumerical. I'm using it for Kalman filter development/simulation, and have previously done Galois field simulation using Bessett's DHBPolynomial. These are many included probability distributions and statistical queries built in, so quite likely has what you

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph

2012-03-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Just a heads up. I'll be making some time next week for reintegrating various fixes and improvements to mostly Polymorph related things. Excellent Whilst based on 1.4, it has been some time since I've updated my happily stable image and the changes have accumulated to be fairly

Re: [Pharo-project] About stable and problem of high expectations. (Was: Re: [Bug Tracker] Issues tagged 1.3)

2012-03-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks igor. I agree with you and we all know that we are doing our best. :) So just concentrate (control the flood of mail - for example allocate a pomodoro for that and close the mail). Stef On Mar 2, 2012, at 9:56 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: First i'd like to make 1 thing clear, stable term

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo-seed and pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Mar 2, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: On Mar 2, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Ok. So I downloaded the first Pharo Core 1.4: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28660/PharoCore-1.4-14000.zip but, I still do not know what packages to load. Is there an easy way to

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo-seed and pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
you can find the current list of packages in script loader latest version. Now marcus is right on the difficulties we will find :) Stef On Mar 2, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi doru We already changed to build not from a snapshot (the one published on regular basis but

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo-seed and pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mar 3, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: On Mar 2, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: On Mar 2, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Ok. So I downloaded the first Pharo Core 1.4: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28660/PharoCore-1.4-14000.zip but, I still do

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for a package to do some statistics in Pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks I was reviewer for the book of didier. Now I think that it would be good to revive the project and make it even better. I started to have a look. I will publish a configuration to start with. Stef On Mar 3, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Douglas McPherson wrote: Indeed, you should check out

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo-seed and pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Marcus Denker
It's not possible to turn 1.4000 into the current one by loading packages in one step. because there are lots of objects that need to be migrated... it's a living system. There was *a lot* of manual fiddling involved, even just from one step to the next. but can we try and see :)

[Pharo-project] [TODO] things tagged 1.4

2012-03-03 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, Even though peope hate it, I think we just can't affort to not priorityze what we need to do... So I, evil as I am, started to remove 1.4 tags to get a feeling for what we really really need to fix and integrate... I should repeat that this un-tagging is not meant to judge on the

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo-seed and pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Frank Shearar
On 2 March 2012 23:18, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 March 2012 01:13, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Mar 2, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: On Mar 2, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Ok. So I downloaded the first Pharo Core 1.4:

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo-seed and pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I did not manage to explain myself, so let me try again with a longer email. We all want to get to a small kernel. To get there, we should have a process that makes the progress possible in small increments. At this point, I would just be interested in putting in place a simple job that

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo-seed and pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Marcus Denker
For example, currently, there are at least two other parts that are not required to be in the seed image: AST and Filesystem. FileSystem is needed. It replaced the old Filesystem in some places already. e.g. in FileList. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo-seed and pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, I did not manage to explain myself, so let me try again with a longer email. We all want to get to a small kernel. To get there, we should have a process that makes the progress possible in small increments. At this point, I would

Re: [Pharo-project] [TODO] things tagged 1.4

2012-03-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Mar 3, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: Hi, Even though peope hate it, I think we just can't affort to not priorityze what we need to do... So I, evil as I am, started to remove 1.4 tags to get a feeling for what we really really need to fix and integrate... I should

[Pharo-project] Sender of or: Boolean method

2012-03-03 Thread Dario Trussardi
Ciao, i work with: Pharo-1.0 Latest update: #10517. ( but i found the same answer into Pharo1.2.2 Latest update: #12353 ) I have a browser open on Boolean class. When i select

Re: [Pharo-project] Sender of or: Boolean method

2012-03-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mar 3, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Dario Trussardi wrote: Ciao, i work with: Pharo-1.0 Latest update: #10517. ( but i found the same answer into Pharo1.2.2 Latest update: #12353 )

Re: [Pharo-project] Sender of or: Boolean method

2012-03-03 Thread Nicolas Cellier
Because the message is not really send. Instead it is inlined (you could try to browse the bytecode of the method). Since the system should hide such implementation details, latest Pharo have been modified to track the senders of these inlined message. Nicolas Le 3 mars 2012 13:02, Dario

Re: [Pharo-project] Sender of or: Boolean method

2012-03-03 Thread Fernando Olivero
Ciao Dario, i dont understand the question. You are stating that there's an error , because you know for sure that #or: has more then 10 senders in the Pharo1.0? Fernando pd: By the way, i advice to use a later version of Pharo, manyyy things were improved since then! On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at

[Pharo-project] Nautilus feedback

2012-03-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! Nautilus is cool! I use it in the Pharo1.4-based Moose image. Some comments: - Cmd-t when selecting a package does not run the tests - Cmd-b does not open a Nautilus, but a standard browser What about the refactoring engine? Does it work in Pharo 1.4? Alexandre --

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for a package to do some statistics in Pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
I am interested in this. Cheers, Alexandre On 3 Mar 2012, at 05:35, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Thanks I was reviewer for the book of didier. Now I think that it would be good to revive the project and make it even better. I started to have a look. I will publish a configuration to start

Re: [Pharo-project] Sender of or: Boolean method

2012-03-03 Thread Dario Trussardi
Ciao, Ciao Dario, i dont understand the question. You are stating that there's an error , because you know for sure that #or: has more then 10 senders in the Pharo1.0? No, but i'm understand to know because it. Fernando pd: By the way, i advice to use a later version of Pharo, manyyy

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for a package to do some statistics in Pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
+1. I just (finally) ordered the book, which should help. Three things put me off of this: (1) (perhaps biased) how can Smalltalk code be fast enough? (2) No examples, poor categorization (3) The use of histograms in least squares fitting - I'm a parametric guy. Re the dearth of examples, I

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus feedback

2012-03-03 Thread Benjamin
On Mar 3, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: Hi! Nautilus is cool! I use it in the Pharo1.4-based Moose image. Some comments: - Cmd-t when selecting a package does not run the tests OK, I will check that :) So, in my image it works, so maybe your Nautilus is not up to date -

[Pharo-project] odd gotcha in workspace code for squeak and pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Lawson English
A discussion in IRC prompted me to try several things. In a nutshell, execute these two lines with two separate doits and you get an error. Select both lines and doit and you don't: a := [^true]. a value. I assume there is a valid reason for the difference in behavior, but it DOES remind

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14372

2012-03-03 Thread Marcus Denker
14372 - Issue 4145: PluggableButtonButtonMorph#target http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4145 Issue 3403: should remove addServices2:for:extraLines: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3403 Issue 2520: sourceMatchesBytecodeAt

[Pharo-project] Just a thought... default inspector window title

2012-03-03 Thread Ben Coman
Just a random idea as I am inspecting variables from the debugger as I trace through the code execution. The default window title of the inspector is the class being inspected however I end up with several windows of the same class and it is hard to distinguish between them. It would be

Re: [Pharo-project] Project ideas for GSoC, 7 days left!

2012-03-03 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Hi Tudor, No I haven't, but we plan to build one for the animal genetics domain in a few months. Have you tried to build a (glamour?) browser over RDF/XML? It would be cool to have the structural knowledge of an ontology browseable, and a graph displaying the entities and relationships, like the

Re: [Pharo-project] loading nautilus

2012-03-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I see that the problem was corrected in the meantime with a ConfigurationOfGrowl. Thanks. Cheers, Doru On 2 Mar 2012, at 16:22, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, I am trying to load Nautilus in 1.4, but there seems to be a problem with the configuration. I run: Gofer it url:

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser fails

2012-03-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Something is strange. It works on my Mac, but it fails in headless mode on the server (the moose build). I will take a closer look. Cheers, Doru On 3 Mar 2012, at 07:09, Benjamin wrote: In the method postLoadRBSpelling We want to initialize and download the dictionary file so

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser fails

2012-03-03 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, Something is strange. It works on my Mac, but it fails in headless mode on the server (the moose build). I will take a closer look. Ben reported a problem with COnfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser in the mailing list.

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser fails

2012-03-03 Thread Tudor Girba
I do not understand. I just replied to that problem report. Doru On 3 Mar 2012, at 21:19, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, Something is strange. It works on my Mac, but it fails in headless mode on the server

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser fails

2012-03-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, The problem comes from the url with the spelling info: http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/smalltalk/rb-spelling.dat being unresolvable. Cheers, Doru On 3 Mar 2012, at 21:17, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, Something is strange. It works on my Mac, but it fails in headless mode on the server (the

[Pharo-project] problem: nautilus forked moose-algos

2012-03-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Nautilus includes NautilusCommon and this in turn includes NautilusCommon-Plugin-JannikAlgo which copies verbatim a part of the classes from the Moose-Algos-Graph package from http://www.squeaksource.com/MooseAlgos. These classes are used in a plugin. Because of this, we cannot use

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for a package to do some statistics in Pharo

2012-03-03 Thread Gastón Dall' Oglio
El 3 de marzo de 2012 03:24, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.eduescribió: Stef, I think our banned troll is back :( hehe, no no, I lack the intelligence to be a good troll :) I misunderstood what Stef said, I understood that he wanted to make statistics about Pharo, more specifically

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser fails

2012-03-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Lukas took care of it, and now it's back online. Thanks, Doru On 3 Mar 2012, at 21:28, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, The problem comes from the url with the spelling info: http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/smalltalk/rb-spelling.dat being unresolvable. Cheers, Doru On 3 Mar 2012, at

[Pharo-project] Cog VM binaries as per VMMaker.oscog-eem.152/r2538.

2012-03-03 Thread Eliot Miranda
Cog VM binaries as per VMMaker.oscog-eem.152/r2538http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2538/ . Fix tricky context state bug that can cause crashes in the GC. ContextpartrunUntilErrorOrReturnFrom: may pop the last argument. Hence if a frame is married in this state its spouse context won't

Re: [Pharo-project] problem: nautilus forked moose-algos

2012-03-03 Thread Benjamin
I will remove that and push it into another repo. It was a plugin started by Jannik, but never finished :) Thanks for report :) Ben On Mar 3, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, Nautilus includes NautilusCommon and this in turn includes NautilusCommon-Plugin-JannikAlgo which copies