Re: [Pharo-project] Topics for a term project in CG

2012-10-24 Thread Dennis Schetinin
I think we should start with the "Morphic-Athens Integration" problem. Could you please put us in the picture by specifying how we can get recent code and set a (simple for the start) task? Best regards, Dennis Schetinin On Tuesday, 23 October 2012 г. at 19:49, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 23

Re: [Pharo-project] SSL Failing on Mac

2012-10-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Igor, Sean, On 25 Oct 2012, at 04:19, Igor Stasenko wrote: > I have some: > - add tests to check if it works. So we will know if it functional or not > before people > will start using it and find by themselves :) I know that an older plug works, that is not the problem. Also, the tests are t

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting Started with Athens

2012-10-24 Thread Dennis Schetinin
The new configuration helped, so now we have working Athens on Windows. Thank you! Best regards, Dennis Schetinin On Wednesday, 24 October 2012 г. at 17:57, Igor Stasenko wrote: > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'Athens'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfAthens'; > load. > > ConfigurationOfAthens proj

Re: [Pharo-project] SSL Failing on Mac

2012-10-24 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 25 October 2012 01:33, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > On Mac Lion, when I use a VM from the Zodiac one-click, everything works, but > when I use the latest from Jenkins (from the latest "failed" build, which > built for Mac, but just failed for Windows), I get: > "PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primiti

Re: [Pharo-project] NativeBoost FFI

2012-10-24 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 24 October 2012 21:55, Ciprian Teodorov wrote: > Hi Igor, > > I finally managed to commit the stuff. > Now I looked a little bit into the idea of generalizing it to work with any > loader, which seems to work pretty much. Now I have two questions: > First of all, what about #argName:type:arity?

[Pharo-project] SSL Failing on Mac

2012-10-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
On Mac Lion, when I use a VM from the Zodiac one-click, everything works, but when I use the latest from Jenkins (from the latest "failed" build, which built for Mac, but just failed for Windows), I get: "PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primitiveSSLCreate in a ZdcPluginSSLSession failed" Any ideas? T

[Pharo-project] Confused about SSL Plugin dependencies

2012-10-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Assuming http://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/job/Cog-VM/Architecture=32,OS=linux/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Cog-linux.zip as linked from http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download is the official Linux VM used by the whole build process, I am confused about the dependencies of the shipp

Re: [Pharo-project] NativeBoost FFI

2012-10-24 Thread Ciprian Teodorov
Hi Igor, I finally managed to commit the stuff. Now I looked a little bit into the idea of generalizing it to work with any loader, which seems to work pretty much. Now I have two questions: First of all, what about #argName:type:arity? Should we remove it and replace it everywhere with #argName:i

[Pharo-project] We are looking for two logos for the Pharo Consortium

2012-10-24 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi Pharo is looking for a logo for the Consortium Member - As a member of the consortium we would like companies to be able to put a logo on their web site. - we would like to have the same for the association member. Does anybody want to propose some logos? Pharo Consortium Member is a real

Re: [Pharo-project] NativeBoost FFI

2012-10-24 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
May be we should ask dave mason because he wrote a C header parser or something like that. On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Ciprian Teodorov wrote: > Hi Igor, > > There seems to be an issue with the squeaksource repo... I don't see myself > listed amongst the developers nor can I commit > > I'm

Re: [Pharo-project] NativeBoost VM on Windows

2012-10-24 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> >> you mean you will release them outside jenkins ? >> > no. I mean release on jenkins ;) > Anything outside jenkins is not exists. Yes I love that statement Automated tasks to team complexity. Free our energy for non stupid tasks robots can do!!!

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [Call for Participation] Pharo Sprint Nov 2

2012-10-24 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
massive :) > Yes. We'll be 6 from Ecole des Mines : Santiago, Nick, Mariano, Jannik (yes > he's back :-), Luc, and me. So we should go an buy cookies and drinks Stef > > Noury > -- > http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi > http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury > > On 22 oct. 2012, at 12:08, Santiag

Re: [Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi joe did you sign the license agreement? Stef On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Joe Rickerby wrote: > I'd be very happy if hour just returned the same as hours. I can also make > the change, but I've never done one before, do I submit it to Pharo inbox? > > On 24 Oct 2012, at 2:28pm, Camillo Br

Re: [Pharo-project] Parsing Smalltalk Array/Object Literals

2012-10-24 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:21 PM, Göran Krampe wrote: > Hey! > > On 10/21/2012 04:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> Well we started with ezequiel to work on that. >> We took a look at Deltas: >> - any change is revertible and keeps it changes >> >> Ezequiel was planning to show to the gro

Re: [Pharo-project] Topics for a term project in CG

2012-10-24 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2012/10/23 Igor Stasenko > Take a look at http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~sig/TxText > > there's already a working (since tests are green ;) > implementation of new text model. > And, as you said, you don't have to deal with hardcoded stuff. > The text model provides a 'position' API, > which can

Re: [Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Yes, the singular forms should return the same as the plural ones, that is the only thing that makes sense. On 24 Oct 2012, at 16:14, Joe Rickerby wrote: > I'd be very happy if hour just returned the same as hours. I can also make > the change, but I've never done one before, do I submit it to

[Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Looks like we created two issues: #6876 (Camillo) and #6877 (me). Joe Rickerby wrote >I'd be very happy if hour just returned the same as hours. I already provided a fix with a test case specific to the problem with #hour, see the changeset at (was not able to upload a slice for whatever reason

Re: [Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Camillo Bruni
A Second, I have prepared a howto add a fix video :) On 2012-10-24, at 16:14, Joe Rickerby wrote: > I'd be very happy if hour just returned the same as hours. I can also make > the change, but I've never done one before, do I submit it to Pharo inbox? > > On 24 Oct 2012, at 2:28pm, Camillo Br

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting Started with Athens

2012-10-24 Thread Camillo Bruni
sorry I have to :P curl http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/ciPharo20NBCog.sh | bash ./vm.sh Pharo.image config http://squeaksource.com/Athens ConfigurationOfAthens --install=1.4 =

Re: [Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Joe Rickerby
I'd be very happy if hour just returned the same as hours. I can also make the change, but I've never done one before, do I submit it to Pharo inbox? On 24 Oct 2012, at 2:28pm, Camillo Bruni mailto:camillobr...@gmail.com>> wrote: the current implementation does not make any sense. despite the g

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting Started with Athens

2012-10-24 Thread Igor Stasenko
Gofer it squeaksource: 'Athens'; package: 'ConfigurationOfAthens'; load. ConfigurationOfAthens project lastVersion load. And you should use NativeBoost-VMs, which bundled with cairo library: https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/job/NativeBoost-Cog-VM/ On 24 October 2012 13:25, dimitris chlou

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting Started with Athens

2012-10-24 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 24 October 2012 14:21, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > It works relatively well on OSX. > I still have experienced some problems with the font on some point, but I am > not able to reproduce it. i fixed that already. but didn't released new configuration of Athens yet. > I have the impression that

Re: [Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Fabrizio Perin
2012/10/24 Camillo Bruni > the current implementation does not make any sense. > despite the grammatical correctness of (1 hour) and the implied > mistake of (2 hour). I think we should change or remove it! > well, you can actually write 2 hours ;P But I agree that the API should be improved

Re: [Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Camillo Bruni
the current implementation does not make any sense. despite the grammatical correctness of (1 hour) and the implied mistake of (2 hour). I think we should change or remove it! https://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6876 On 2012-10-24, at 14:52, Fabrizio Perin wrote: > If it not use I

Re: [Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Joe Rickerby
I should add that there are a lot of similar methods with this behaviour on number, there's day, hour, milliSecond, minute, nanoSecond, second, week. If behaviour was changed, or it was simply deleted, it should probably be in all or none of the above to maintain consistency. On 24 Oct 2012, at

Re: [Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Fabrizio Perin
If it not use I don't know but the message 1 hour makes sense to me. cheers, Fabrizio 2012/10/24 Santiago Bragagnolo > I found almost no senders of #Number>>hour, and also have not sense at > all. Probably we want to remove it. > > > > > > 2012/10/24 Joe Rickerby > >> I can't believe I'd be th

Re: [Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Santiago Bragagnolo
I found almost no senders of #Number>>hour, and also have not sense at all. Probably we want to remove it. 2012/10/24 Joe Rickerby > I can't believe I'd be the first person to find this, so sorry if this has > been discussed before. > > I was writing some code today, using Durations. I've com

Re: [Pharo-project] Thanks for including Metacello infrastructure out-of-the-box

2012-10-24 Thread Alexandre Bergel
It would be nice to have a quick overview of these addition... Alexandre On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Just a quick note to say thanks ! > > The inclusion of the Metacello infrastructure in the image makes a big speed > difference when building new images based

Re: [Pharo-project] Thanks for including Metacello infrastructure out-of-the-box

2012-10-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote > Just a quick note to say thanks ! +1 :) Hooray for Metacello and the command line work! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Thanks-for-including-Metacello-infrastructure-out-of-the-box-tp4652744p4652765.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk maili

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting Started with Athens

2012-10-24 Thread Alexandre Bergel
It works relatively well on OSX. I still have experienced some problems with the font on some point, but I am not able to reproduce it. I have the impression that using the cairo backend is a bit slower than pure FormCanvas. Alexandre On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Dennis Schetinin wrote: > +

Re: [Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Ben Coman
Joe Rickerby wrote: I can't believe I'd be the first person to find this, so sorry if this has been discussed before. I was writing some code today, using Durations. I've come across the hour/hours methods before, and so I know that '2 hour' is really one hour, and that you have to write '2 h

Re: [Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Joe Rickerby wrote: > What doesn't work for me is when I write '0.5 hour' or '(1/2) hour'. Both > will return a duration of 1 hour. In my head I pronounce this 'half an hour', > so it's an entirely reasonable thing to write. > > Can something be done about this?

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20363

2012-10-24 Thread Marcus Denker
20363 - Issue 5678: TextMorph font is wrong http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5678 Issue 6236: Streaming on stdout does not work http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6236 Issue 6870: Nautilus sort accidentally the inst vars

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20362

2012-10-24 Thread Marcus Denker
20362 - Issue 6707: Tests failing ZipArchiveTest http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6707 Issue 6874: Group option For ConfigurationCommandLineHandler http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6874 Issue 6873: Improve UnpackagedPa

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting Started with Athens

2012-10-24 Thread Dennis Schetinin
+1 My student tried to run it on Windows and Linux, stucked after few steps (after installing cairo to be more specific) on crashing VM. Best regards, Dennis Schetinin On Wednesday, 24 October 2012 г. at 15:25, dimitris chloupis wrote: > Any idea how to get started with Athens ? > >

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting Started with Athens

2012-10-24 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Back at esug, Igor gave me a particular VM. Then I had to install Athens. Alexandre On Oct 24, 2012, at 8:25 AM, dimitris chloupis wrote: > Any idea how to get started with Athens ? > > How I download it ? > > How I install it ? > > for now I have found this > > http://code.google.com/p/p

[Pharo-project] Getting Started with Athens

2012-10-24 Thread dimitris chloupis
Any idea how to get started with Athens ? How I download it ? How I install it ? for now I have found this http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Athens and 2 other videos made by Igor. I am interested in making it work on win7 and macos lion and then after I play with it , I would like t

[Pharo-project] 1/2 hour

2012-10-24 Thread Joe Rickerby
I can't believe I'd be the first person to find this, so sorry if this has been discussed before. I was writing some code today, using Durations. I've come across the hour/hours methods before, and so I know that '2 hour' is really one hour, and that you have to write '2 hours' to have the thin

[Pharo-project] Thanks for including Metacello infrastructure out-of-the-box

2012-10-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Just a quick note to say thanks ! The inclusion of the Metacello infrastructure in the image makes a big speed difference when building new images based on configurations. Together with all the other command line improvements, Pharo is now even nicer to use on the command line. Sven -- Sven V

Re: [Pharo-project] Topics for a term project in CG

2012-10-24 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 23/10/2012 21:01, Denis Kudriashov a écrit : Hello 2012/10/23 Igor Stasenko mailto:siguc...@gmail.com>> Also, recently we started working on new text model. With the goal to replace an clean Text, text editing and text layout in our system (and sure thing , rendering). This i

Re: [Pharo-project] Topics for a term project in CG

2012-10-24 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 24/10/2012 03:07, Igor Stasenko a écrit : On 24 October 2012 00:09, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Oh, well, I'll jump in as I spend an inordinate amount of time learning about that text stuff. One requirement I'd love t see covered: have a proper text model that scales when the size of the text