Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] prebuilt image #10178

2008-11-27 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks for Polymorph, it rocks! :) On Nov 27, 2008, at 20:25 , Gary Chambers wrote: My personal preference options, as different from the release... alternativeButtonsInScrollBarsenabled alwaysShowVScrollbardisabled scrollBarsNarrowdisabled scrollBarsWithoutMenuButton

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Pharo-project] Alien FFI

2008-11-24 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Great news! On Nov 24, 2008, at 09:13 , John M McIntosh wrote: [...] Lastly load Alien-Last-Class-Initialize - To ensure all the initializers were run, just in case MC loses it's mind... A small glitch: if the mac packages are not loaded, AlienMCPostInitialize class #initialize does

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Pharo-project] Alien FFI

2008-11-24 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Of course. Or even simpler Smalltalk at: #ObjectiveCAlien ifPresent: #initialize Adrian On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:42 , Keith Hodges wrote: how about Smalltalk at: #ObjectiveCAlien ifPresent: [ :c | c initialize ] Keith ___ Pharo-project mailing

Re: [Pharo-project] String and Symbol comparison

2008-11-14 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I traced all the senders of #= where either the receiver is a string and the argument is a symbol and vice versa. I run this for all tests (the number indicates the number of occurrences). ((IdentityDictionary new) add: (#inputUpTo:nestedOn:errorMessage:- 57); add:

Re: [Pharo-project] adrian .... help :)

2008-11-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Stef Yesterday evening I did another update and it worked fine... It looks like the counter was increased twice in your case. This can happen if the image is not fresh (the counter was set already) or the #prepareNewUpdate is executed twice. To prevent this in the future I changed how

Re: [Pharo-project] Too much updates without an image

2008-11-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I found the problem. Its a quite complex bug, actually, as it is not related to the update #120 but to #116. I inadvertently introduced the problem with the memory clean up script. It resets the update downloader, and this makes the update queue to get into an inconsistent state after

Re: [Pharo-project] Too much updates without an image

2008-11-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I've fixed the problem. Adrian On Nov 6, 2008, at 13:07 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Amazing :) I started to migrate part of the update to the installer but never finished. Stef I found the problem. Its a quite complex bug, actually, as it is not related to the update #120 but to #116. I

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-04 Thread Adrian Lienhard
? Cheers Matthias On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Last week in Bern, Marcus, Stef, and I have been discussing a plan for a first release of Pharo. Overall, the goal is to produce a valuable, stable product within reasonable time

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-04 Thread Adrian Lienhard
could make up some Cheers, Alexandre On 4 Nov 2008, at 10:38, Adrian Lienhard wrote: Hi Matthias, yes, that would be very useful (I added it to the wiki)! Can you help with this? Cheers, Adrian On Nov 4, 2008, at 12:52 , Matthias Berth wrote: Hi Adrian, how about some getting started

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-03 Thread Adrian Lienhard
ok, then, let's take Pharo-Core and Pharo. Adrian On Nov 3, 2008, at 17:07 , Ramon Leon wrote: Marcus Denker wrote: I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo. +0.9 Pharo-Core and Pharo-Dev (+0.1) Michael Ditto, I like Core and Dev better, but Pharo-Core and Pharo aren't bad either. Ramon Leon

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

2008-11-02 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Nov 2, 2008, at 14:25 , Torsten Bergmann wrote: Is there anything important we missed? Yes - would be good if the first release is able to load and run a stable seaside version, if possible the newest. Seaside, yes, this goes without saying ;) This depends on the seaside 2.9 release

Re: [Pharo-project] Strange bugs?

2008-11-02 Thread Adrian Lienhard
It's not that bad... there was *one* mail suggesting that Pharo is too buggy (for what?), whereas in general people have expressed positive experience. The only thing we can learn from this is to improve our communication, so that people don't have wrong expectations. In the current case

[Pharo-project] SLICE-Object-isTransparent-GwenaelCasaccio.2?

2008-11-01 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Gwenael, In PharoInbox there is the following slice, but I don't know which issue it corresponds to (please always add the issue number in the slice comment or file name)? Cheers, Adrian Name: SLICE-Object-isTransparent-GwenaelCasaccio.2 Author: GwenaelCasaccio Time: 31 October 2008,

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 303

2008-10-31 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Gwenael, Thanks for your contribution! What Damien suggested, and which is the way to go, is to add your comments to the issue tracker and update the issue's status. That is, go to http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=303 and sign in (you need a google account) and then

Re: [Pharo-project] less than 10

2008-10-29 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks! Adrian On Oct 29, 2008, at 23:29 , Norbert Hartl wrote: Hi guys, not much time to scan email. But I did an update right now and saw that the image dropped below 10 MB. It does not mean anything but to me it is a magical border. Things are moving real fast. I'm sad not able to have

Re: [Pharo-project] problem with update 10120 ?

2008-10-28 Thread Adrian Lienhard
thanks, it works. Adrian On Oct 28, 2008, at 22:10 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I redid an update Stef Thanks. We got some problems with the network and I could not check. I removed the problem for the moment. Lukas the Type removal does not work :) I will commit the etoy removal I did. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10116

2008-10-27 Thread Adrian Lienhard
. If there is a reason it likely is the font change. We can check on Wednesday. Adrian Cheers, Lukas On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Issue 185: More World menu cleanup needed (includes the following improvements: mouse-over sub-menus, capitalize tool

Re: [Pharo-project] SmallLint broken -- no literalsDo: in CompiledMethod ?

2008-10-25 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Probably, literals do: instead of literalsDo: will work. (Normally, methods to be removed should first be deprecated, which apparently was not done in this case.) Adrian On Oct 25, 2008, at 12:22 , Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: Hi, I was trying out the refactoring engine, and tried to run the

Re: [Pharo-project] SUnit/OB integration

2008-10-23 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Alex, It would be very helpful for the harvesters if you can say which slice this change is (or at least which packages) and if you can create an issue in the tracker. Also a short description of the changes would be helpful. Thanks, Adrian On Oct 23, 2008, at 13:02 , Alexandre

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for ImageSegment tests

2008-10-22 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Oct 22, 2008, at 22:04 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: On Oct 21, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: On Oct 21, 2008, at 16:05 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi all if by any chance you have some code that could be turned into tests, or some tests or some time to write tests for image

Re: [Pharo-project] 10095: questions

2008-10-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Alex, Stef already requested to add the double change browser instead of the simple one. I will change this (soon). The update function is in: World-System-Software update. Cheers, Adrian On Oct 21, 2008, at 13:02 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: I just tried Pharo 10095. It looks very

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for ImageSegment tests

2008-10-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Oct 21, 2008, at 16:05 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi all if by any chance you have some code that could be turned into tests, or some tests or some time to write tests for image segments this would be great because etoy is really deep inside image segment and I would really like to

Re: [Pharo-project] Size of objects

2008-10-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Frédéric Nice to see you on the Pharo mailing list! Just the other day I needed this too and I implemented the following method: ObjectsizeInMemory Returns the number of bytes used by this object in memory (including its header) | headerSize instanceSize |

Re: [Pharo-project] 10095: questions

2008-10-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Damien, There's no reason to apologize. You do a great job. Can't people update the pharo-dev through the update stream? I think that should work in most cases. Adrian On Oct 21, 2008, at 19:45 , Damien Cassou wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED

[Pharo-project] Removing the Pharo flap at the left?

2008-10-15 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I think we don't need this flap anymore. What it contains: - the current time (I already have one on my screen) - load code updates (is easy to find in the menu today, i.e. world- System-Software update) - about this system (dito, i.e. world-System-About) - change theme (there is only one

[Pharo-project] Removing default fonts

2008-10-15 Thread Adrian Lienhard
In another thread (Pharo image size: 10.9MB) I proposed to remove all but one font since the ones in the image (especially the TT fonts) are not really useful but consume memory. Hilaire suggested to keep Accujen, which to my eyes looks better than the default Accuny font (not perfect, but

Re: [Pharo-project] History and SUnit

2008-10-13 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Alex, On Oct 12, 2008, at 11:59 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: I think the feature should be more intuitive so that a user can figure out how it works just by trying it out. Wouldn't the following 2 actions be sufficient for most cases: 'Remember Result', 'Compare Result'? You would always

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10093

2008-10-13 Thread Adrian Lienhard
method categories cleanup by Lukas Renggli #241: - remove empty categories - sort all categories - make all categories lower case - replace #initialize-release/#class-initialization with #initialization Please note that this takes quite long to load because it

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10093

2008-10-13 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Its a typo, sorry. Correct: 10094 Adrian On Oct 13, 2008, at 19:03 , Matthew Fulmer wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 05:50:56PM +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: method categories cleanup by Lukas Renggli #241: - remove empty categories - sort all categories - make all

Re: [Pharo-project] SLICE-Mantis-Collection-Fix-mining-nice-2

2008-10-13 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks, Nicolas! These fixes will appear in update 10095. It would be helpful if you could also create a report in the issue tracker and post the comments there too. This helps us to better track changes. I created the following issue for this mail:

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10095

2008-10-13 Thread Adrian Lienhard
- Reorganization of the world menu and its sub-menus #185 - Kernel-Number fixes #245 - Replaced (Symbol allInstances) with (Symbol allSymbol) #227 - Duplicated methods in ClassTrait #140 - Remove #hash from Association (fix #testHash) #196 - Fix MC initialization broken by previous update

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10095

2008-10-13 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Oct 13, 2008, at 22:39 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: tx - Reorganization of the world menu and its sub-menus #185 - Kernel-Number fixes #245 - Replaced (Symbol allInstances) with (Symbol allSymbol) #227 - Duplicated methods in ClassTrait #140 - Remove #hash from Association (fix #testHash)

Re: [Pharo-project] SLICE-Mantis-Collection-Fix-mining-nice-2

2008-10-13 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Oct 13, 2008, at 22:40 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: But I harvested them in 10093 :) Oh, really? When I merged the slice from the inbox I think I saw changes and I don't think your log mentions these fixes. Adrian Stef On Oct 13, 2008, at 10:19 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: Thanks

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo image size: 10.9MB

2008-10-12 Thread Adrian Lienhard
? no. But I don't think we need them anymore, especially if we have FreeType integrated. These fonts, like the Vera fonts, are of low quality (very blurry) and most of them are not used. Adrian Stef On Oct 11, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: I've been looking into how the current 13.4MB

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo image size: 10.9MB

2008-10-12 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Oct 12, 2008, at 13:09 , Adrian Lienhard wrote: On Oct 12, 2008, at 12:52 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: this is strange that certain strings are repeated 3 times. Flaps are like drawers This tool allows you SUnit removing... hm.. we can find out by looking where they are referenced

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo image size: 10.9MB

2008-10-12 Thread Adrian Lienhard
For the default fonts: do we have a process to reload the non default fonts? Stef On Oct 11, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: I've been looking into how the current 13.4MB a Pharo image uses are spent... I expected that at least half of it is used by classes (compiled methods

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo image size: 10.9MB

2008-10-12 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Would it make sense then, to use Accujen as default? (Comparing the two, I actually also prefer Accujen compared to Accuny. I just chose the latter because it is currently the default code, menu, and list font) Adrian On Oct 12, 2008, at 15:55 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Yes! Stef no.

[Pharo-project] Pharo image size: 10.9MB

2008-10-11 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I've been looking into how the current 13.4MB a Pharo image uses are spent... I expected that at least half of it is used by classes (compiled methods). But this is not the case. Actually, only about 1/4th are classes. As it turned out, almost the same amount of memory is used by forms

Re: [Pharo-project] History and SUnit

2008-10-11 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Alex, On Oct 10, 2008, at 13:25 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: I tried your extension and have the following questions/problems: - when I first run all the tests in the system, I get 4 failures (as expected) but the bar on top stays green where it should be yellow (it worked before) that's

Re: [Pharo-project] About trait mop

2008-10-10 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Stef, I had a look and I like it, so I'll try to make your tests pass ;). I don't agree with the following, though: self assert: (D#c3) origin = D. this is a question because it could be here I think it should be Trait2, not D. The alias c3-c2 does not redefine the method in the

Re: [Pharo-project] History and SUnit

2008-10-10 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Alex, I tried your extension and have the following questions/problems: - when I first run all the tests in the system, I get 4 failures (as expected) but the bar on top stays green where it should be yellow (it worked before) - I don't understand the Progress feature. What I did is run

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10091

2008-10-10 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks for the explanation, Nicolas! This sounds reasonable. This kind of conclusion was missing for me when I read through the different bug reports on Mantis. Adrian On Oct 9, 2008, at 22:18 , nicolas cellier wrote: http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7180 +6455 +1603 +1602 Patches for

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10091

2008-10-09 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Stef, On Oct 9, 2008, at 19:05 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: [..] http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7180 +6455 +1603 +1602 Patches for Interval indexOf: and includes: I wonder about these fixes because of

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10088

2008-10-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Oct 8, 2008, at 13:43 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: On Oct 8, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: @Marcus: thanks! @all: I've run the tests and currently we have 3 tests that are not green. I've filed issues for two. The third one is due to a DNU in BookMorph (actually BookMorph

Re: [Pharo-project] about traits tests

2008-10-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Norbert added this to properly clean up. The reason is that adding a subclass to ProtoObject adds this class to its subclasses array. see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=13 Adrian On Oct 6, 2008, at 21:21 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi adrian could you explain the logic

Re: [Pharo-project] Changing the name of the Pharo mailing list

2008-10-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks, Alex! Adrian On Oct 7, 2008, at 11:21 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: I changed the title to Pharo Development Cheers, Alexandre On 7 Oct 2008, at 11:06, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: sure give one string Stef On Oct 6, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: How about Pharo Development?

[Pharo-project] Changing the name of the Pharo mailing list

2008-10-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Stef, Is it possible to change the long name of the mailing list that is used for [EMAIL PROTECTED] It currently is An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-source Smalltalk I would prefer The genera-purpose Pharo developer list or something similar that is shorter and

Re: [Pharo-project] Performance observation

2008-10-05 Thread Adrian Lienhard
We use the Squeak VNC server http://www.squeaksource.com/RFB.html, which works very well. Adrian On Oct 4, 2008, at 16:47 , Bill Schwab wrote: Hello all, As part of some catch-up work from a couple of weeks ago, I'm using my 1.8 GHz/500MB Ubuntu box and a remote desktop client to do some

Re: [Pharo-project] [update] 10087

2008-10-05 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Oct 4, 2008, at 22:14 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Excellent I will continue the etoy curving and look at kernel extension. Marcus it would be good if you could have a look at the traits fixes Apparently adrian told me that I made a mistake :) or wait until I finish it... it's on my todo

Re: [Pharo-project] does anybody got the changes to the old browser to add traits?

2008-10-04 Thread Adrian Lienhard
At some point in the past, methods from traits were also shown in italic. I added this to the old browser because it is the most fundamental info (else you always override methods from traits when changing a method in a class). I think we should add this back too. Adrian On Oct 4, 2008,

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

2008-10-01 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:03 , Damien Cassou wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? not yet. in the changesets I added there of course was a conflict.. and some more cleanup is needed

Re: [Pharo-project] about preparing the first release

2008-09-25 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Sep 25, 2008, at 11:12 , Damien Cassou wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd suggest the common major.minor[.maintenance] scheme starting with 1.0. I would not start with 1.0 because it means this is already stable enough for anyone

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9 alpha universe

2008-09-24 Thread Adrian Lienhard
The new and easy way to load Seaside takes up to 10 steps (see below). We should try to make this even less painful in Pharo. I assume, having Universes pre-loaded will already reduce half of the steps, but how can it be further simplified? Adrian Begin forwarded message: From: Philippe

Re: [Pharo-project] First pharo-dev with limited package set

2008-09-23 Thread Adrian Lienhard
, Damien Cassou wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: Does this include Universes? It's not listed below but I see the menu item (which does not work because of a deprecation warning). I think we need Universes mainly because Seaside

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: First pharo-dev with limited package set + a Shout workspace where highlighting can be toggled

2008-09-23 Thread Adrian Lienhard
in a class inst var and uses that as the default for any new workspaces opened. This could easily be changed to be a real Preference setting. You can try it out in the pharo-dev image, just install it and open a new Workspace. What do people think? Cheers, Andy Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: [ANN] Demo with both Truetype + Polymorph

2008-09-22 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:00 , Andrew Tween wrote: [...] Make sure that you start it by double clicking Pharo.exe I double clicked Pharo.exe and then selected the image that I had copied on the desktop. Windows also asks me whether I want to unzip files before running the application, and

Re: [Pharo-project] Recover last changes and friends are useful menu items

2008-09-22 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I also planned to do this... Before we do it at the same time, shall I do it? Adrian On Sep 22, 2008, at 15:34 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: if I get some times I will clean and reintroduce changes and windows Stef On Sep 22, 2008, at 1:46 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: 2008/9/21 Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-project] Product Brand Pharo

2008-09-22 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I don't see the point of a splash screen. I think it only makes sense if starting the application takes several seconds and the splash screen indicates how long it will take until it the app is ready (like with Photoshop). Apart from that, and especially if starting up only takes a second

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: [ANN] Demo with both Truetype + Polymorph

2008-09-22 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I think Bitstream Vera Sans Mono would be quite good. I slightly prefer Monaco, which is shipped with OS X, but I don't know its license (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco_(typeface)). For an evaluation of programmer fonts see http://www.lowing.org/fonts/ Another list can be found here:

[Pharo-project] Default windows sizes

2008-09-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
The following changeset adjusts the default size of windows, e.g., it makes code browser, the inspector and the process browser larger. The senders/implementors windows are increased in their height and the ratio between the list height and code pane height is changed. Let me know if you

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] first one-click image

2008-09-20 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Sep 20, 2008, at 12:03 , Norbert Hartl wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 23:15 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: On Sep 19, 2008, at 23:02 , Marcus Denker wrote: On 19.09.2008, at 22:49, Adrian Lienhard wrote: [...] Class browser Method finder Message names Do we

[Pharo-project] More menu cleanup

2008-09-20 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Here is a changeset that cleans up and restructures the code context menu. In the process of removing stuff I also removed around 30 methods, some of which were huge (ever seen the implementation of the explain functionality?). Cheers, Adrian BTW: After loading the changeset save and

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] first one-click image

2008-09-19 Thread Adrian Lienhard
nice! some comments/ideas: - I think recently logged changes need to be accessible from the menu - Help: does not make sense if it opens a submenu with only one item - Pharo: this label does not tell much, System may be a bit better - Open-Services Browser: honestly I don't know what this is,

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] first one-click image

2008-09-19 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Sep 19, 2008, at 23:02 , Marcus Denker wrote: On 19.09.2008, at 22:49, Adrian Lienhard wrote: [...] Class browser Method finder Message names Do we need Message names? hm... I almost never use it, but I know people that do quite often. Method finder seems

Re: [Pharo-project] Bugs on bugs.squeak.org

2008-09-18 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I agree. I spend a lot of time trying to understand Mantis reports because there typically are duplicates and related reports and fixes proposed are later reported being buggy etc. Adrian On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:43 , Marcus Denker wrote: Hi, bugs.squeak.org is a mess. (and people wonder

Re: [Pharo-project] Non-pharo reports in pharo bugtracker...

2008-09-18 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Sep 18, 2008, at 11:58 , Norbert Hartl wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 10:27 +0200, Marcus Denker wrote: Hi, There are reports in the pharo tracker that are not solvable because the software the bug is reported about is not part of pharo. I wonder if that makes sense... from the bug-fixing

Re: [Pharo-project] Thinking about Pharo distribution

2008-09-16 Thread Adrian Lienhard
and path to achieve it should not hamper us to try and learn. Look at the use of MC :) Stef On Sep 16, 2008, at 07:13 , Damien Cassou wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that we should make it clear what to start with (obviously the dev

Re: [Pharo-project] Thinking about Pharo distribution

2008-09-15 Thread Adrian Lienhard
here my 2 cents... On Sep 15, 2008, at 17:49 , Marcus Denker wrote: I think it is *extremely* important to only have one download. I agree that we should make it clear what to start with (obviously the dev distribution). The list of packages seems ok to me, except for Regex. Having pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] update 10072

2008-09-15 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I run the tests in 10072. We currently have 5 failures and a hand full of errors. The errors come from the class ChangesOrganizer being removed but there are references to it in ChangeHooksTest. Two MonthTest tests fail because the following method now looks like: Monthindex | t |

Re: [Pharo-project] Hello everyone!

2008-09-09 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Welcome, Igor! Would you also be interested to help maintain the VM? Recently on this list we've discussed whether it would make sense to have our own Pharo VM. For instance, to have the Freetype Plugin by default, but maybe also for larger improvements like the ones that come from Eliot.

Re: [Pharo-project] How to submit changes when SqueakSource is down ?

2008-09-09 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Sep 9, 2008, at 12:11 , Noury Bouraqadi wrote: Hi, SqueakSource is down again :-( Hi Noury, it works fine for me right now Adrian ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Hello everyone!

2008-09-09 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Sep 9, 2008, at 17:43 , Igor Stasenko wrote: 2008/9/9 Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Welcome, Igor! Would you also be interested to help maintain the VM? Recently on this list we've discussed whether it would make sense to have our own Pharo VM. For instance, to have the Freetype

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph question

2008-09-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
+1 That was one thing that I really missed. It can be very confusing if you don't know which changes were accepted and which not. Adrian On Sep 5, 2008, at 21:37 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Gary is there a way to see when the code has not been accepted? Right I get blue for the focus but

Re: [Pharo-project] Crashing the image with polymorph in one line :)

2008-09-05 Thread Adrian Lienhard
The cause of this crash would probably be easy to detect using message send tracing in the VM. See VM for Squeak with message sent instrumentation on http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html (I once used it to debug an issue on linux but had to modify and compile my own VM because

Re: [Pharo-project] About RSS links

2008-08-31 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Stefan, Thanks for the remark. I think we will soon have a better description of the various sources of information on the new web page that we are working on. For now, here is a description: The feed http://www.squeaksource.com/Pharo/feed.rss shows the committed versions in the

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] prebuild 10062

2008-08-22 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Laurent, It seems you use a different images because in the 10062 image I downloaded I see 2115 tests with 1 error and 1 failure. Or, are you loading additional packages before running the tests? Adrian On Aug 22, 2008, at 09:59 , laurent laffont wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 1:59

Re: [Pharo-project] New update :)

2008-08-20 Thread Adrian Lienhard
worked well. Less etoy is always a good feeling, even if with some sadness because some ideas were good even if terribly implemented. Stef On Aug 19, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: On 17.08.2008, at 17:20, Adrian Lienhard wrote: Thanks for the new updates. There are a few tests

Re: [Pharo-project] Traits...

2008-08-20 Thread Adrian Lienhard
That shouldn't be hard. I even did it some time ago because Tim asked me as he was working on a new source management. As it goes, this code was never integrated but it should be around somewhere (I think I mailed it also to Marcus). Adrian On Aug 20, 2008, at 16:20 , Alexandre Bergel

Re: [Pharo-project] Bigger than Squeak?

2008-08-20 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks, I forgot about the changesets! After ScriptLoader new cleaningCS the size of my Pharo 10061 image drops to 13.3MB on disk. Not bad. Adrian ___ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ On Aug 20, 2008, at 16:38 , Marcus Denker wrote: On 20.08.2008, at 15:13, Adrian Lienhard

Re: [Pharo-project] About a better look

2008-08-18 Thread Adrian Lienhard
No, I didn't take a screenshot and did not save the image ;) But I will do it again at some point, including nicer fonts. BTW, changing colors can be done simply through the preference browser if you select defaultWindowColor and then click on the button White.. I also disabled rounded

Re: [Pharo-project] http://www.pharo-project.org/

2008-07-31 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jul 31, 2008, at 09:15 , Marcus Denker wrote: On 30.07.2008, at 17:23, Alexandre Bergel wrote: Hi! http://www.pharo-project.org/ is down... Did we ever configure the domain to point anywhere? Not as much as I remember... no, not that I know. We could make it redirect to the

Re: [Pharo-project] Last release ScriptLoader

2008-07-29 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Alex, Yes you are right, each update should come with the latest version of ScriptLoader. Usually this is how we do it. In update 10050 the version loaded is ScriptLoader-al.468. The newer versions that are in the Pharo repository were probably committed after we did the update (?)

Re: [Pharo-project] Improving the GUI

2008-07-26 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jul 26, 2008, at 11:21 , Lukas Renggli wrote: BTW, I've been investigating NiceFonts (http://www.jvuletich.org/NiceFonts.html) and I'm in contact with Juan who helped me with it I agree, these fonts look very pleasing to the eye. Yes, the quality is good. (Compared to the typeface in

Re: [Pharo-project] Improving the GUI

2008-07-23 Thread Adrian Lienhard
And what about adding a preference to enable halos, which would be turned off by default? Adrian On Jul 23, 2008, at 14:59 , Bill Schwab wrote: Cédrick, There is at least use for halos with browsers: figuring out how they were made. At times, I have resorted to see the types of morphs

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with July release

2008-07-22 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks for pointing out. Will have a look in the evening. Adrian On Jul 22, 2008, at 09:22 , Damien Cassou wrote: See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=123 -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck».

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with July release

2008-07-22 Thread Adrian Lienhard
was loaded. I just published the package again to the inbox so in the next update the method will come back. I updated #123 to track this change. I also Verified your change http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=118 Cheers, Adrian On Jul 22, 2008, at 12:03 , Adrian Lienhard wrote

[Pharo-project] Some more work on #115 Remove old HTML generation

2008-07-22 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Damien I worked a bit more on this and did the following: in addition to previous version by Damien - remove #command: senders and implementors - remove method references to deleted methods in MessageFinder - remove StringasHtml, which in turn required to... - remove an etoys related mail

Re: [Pharo-project] Please verify #118

2008-07-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Damien I had a look and have a question. Please see the comment in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=118 Adrian On Jul 18, 2008, at 10:03 , Damien Cassou wrote: Can someone please verify: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=118 -- Damien Cassou Peter von der

[Pharo-project] Please review #74 and #114

2008-07-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Issue 74: 7124 FastSmallIntegerPrintString http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=74 and related: Issue 114: Faster printString for LargeInteger http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=114 thanks, Adrian ___ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/

[Pharo-project] Improving the GUI

2008-07-20 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi, I'd like to get your opinion about how we could improve the GUI. I believe that even a few small changes will make a significant difference, especially for new people that come to Pharo. Just the cleaned up world menu is such a relief... Here a three suggestions: Better fonts

Re: [Pharo-project] About HTMLFileStream

2008-07-19 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Stef, Its already done ;) I suggested to remove the whole HTML generation when looking at the not working html menu implementation you pointed out. Damien then did it; he removed around 50 methods, including the class HtmlFileStream. His changes still need to be verified. See:

Re: [Pharo-project] VeryPickyMorph

2008-07-17 Thread Adrian Lienhard
carefully merged with 133. Cheers, Alexandre On 16 Jul 2008, at 14:30, Adrian Lienhard wrote: The comment says: Contributed by Bob Arning as part of the ObjectExplorer package but I can't see where it would be used, neither how this would be useful for other applications. I'd say, kill

Re: [Pharo-project] A board for pharo

2008-07-17 Thread Adrian Lienhard
members. The rational is that we want to assure continuity to be able to steadily push Pharo forward. The current board members are: - Marcus Denker - Stefane Ducasse - Adrian Lienhard - Michael Rueger Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] Classes in more than one package

2008-07-17 Thread Adrian Lienhard
this could be fixed. But I think that having dependent packages named Installer-Core and Installer-Test does not help. InstallerCore and InstallerTest would be better. Exactly. Adrian Cheers, Alexandre On 17 Jul 2008, at 18:04, Adrian Lienhard wrote: ok, I'm even more confused now

Re: [Pharo-project] BrowseTest change in inbox

2008-07-16 Thread Adrian Lienhard
. But a lot of junks as well! What should we do in that case?Shall the class BrowseTest be extracted from this package? Alexandre On 15 Jul 2008, at 14:49, Adrian Lienhard wrote: ok, can you update your package with the class and create an issue in the tracker? Like this we can push

Re: [Pharo-project] How to work on taskForce

2008-07-16 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:29 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hello guys I started (as an experiment to understand how to improve code understanding) to try to understand and write tests for dataStream and I would to share the results with you. The point is that we could harvest what I did but I

Re: [Pharo-project] Classes in more than one package

2008-07-16 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I wonder where those packages come from in your image. In the most recent version of Pharo I don't see an Installer nor Installer-Test package. Also no such package exists in the Pharo repository... Adrian On Jul 16, 2008, at 13:49 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: I also noticed that there are

Re: [Pharo-project] Classes in more than one package

2008-07-16 Thread Adrian Lienhard
ok, ok. I didn't know you were talking about OmniBrower as the context is missing Adrian On Jul 16, 2008, at 14:26 , Adrian Lienhard wrote: I wonder where those packages come from in your image. In the most recent version of Pharo I don't see an Installer nor Installer-Test package

Re: [Pharo-project] BrowseTest change in inbox

2008-07-15 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On 15 Jul 2008, at 12:13, Adrian Lienhard wrote: Ok, I found the package that removed the class: Name: Tools-stephane.ducasse.83 Author: stephane.ducasse Time: 25 May 2008, 6:51:03 pm UUID: 0fd56f49-c138-4e05-850d-ed5c8f2ac9d6 Ancestors: Tools-stephane.ducasse.82 removed tests that open

Re: [Pharo-project] How to follow which packages have been integrated ,

2008-07-14 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Victor Thanks for the suggestion. I would stick with using the issue tracker as the primary place to track changes. Else you end up having to update at look at multiple places. That said, I think it makes sense to just add the issue number in the comment of the package, but this

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