Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk, git, files, the universe and everything...okay not everything:)

2011-04-20 Thread Steven Baker
>> A thing I not understand is why we need to go "file-based" if we are >> already object based (several steps ahead)? > > The folks that would like to see Smalltalk be more file-based have very good > points ... Smalltalk would be more accessible to other developers, it would > be easier for fo

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk, git, files, the universe and everything...okay not everything:)

2011-04-20 Thread Steven Baker
Thank you! It bothers me slightly that we're actually having this discussion. Trying to divorce Smalltalk from the image loses a great deal of flexibility that we have all come to know and love. Divorcing Smalltalk from the image so we can use great tools might be a reasonable thing to do, but

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk, git, files, the universe and everything...okay not everything:)

2011-04-20 Thread Steven Baker
> Using git has nothing to do with a file based system. The approach would be > to use git as a storage backend for monticello. Git just stores 3 types of > objects: commit, tree, blob. > There are no files involved!! So this would be perfectly compatible with and > image based system such as s

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk, git, files, the universe and everything...okay not everything:)

2011-04-20 Thread Steven Baker
> > So, we can complain that we are not using git, but there are very good > reasons for not using git ... today. First: anyone complaining that we can't use git, hasn't used great version control tools. I think what people want is GitHub, which is great. We can have GitHub and base it on

Re: [Pharo-project] Good reference on time on unit testing?

2011-02-27 Thread Steven Baker
hat he needs to > convince some pointy-haired-boss-type person, by directing him or her to a > well-respected "official" statistic that "proves" what we all know to be > true from experience. Sadly, I think it will be hard to find it :-( > > -- > Cheers, > Pete

Re: [Pharo-project] Good reference on time on unit testing?

2011-02-27 Thread Steven Baker
I've always felt that "test driving" code actually results in negative time spent on "testing". I spend (and everyone I know that tests well does as well) a lot less time writing code test-first than I ever would writing the same code without the tests first. Also, I spend far less time (almost non

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Steven Baker
FWIW, Git is a very generic system. There's no reason we couldn't write a storage adapter for MC that puts the repo in Git. Git only knows about objects, and the versions thereof. We could easily have Monticello on top of git. I'm not sure I think it's a good solution, but it sounds like something

Re: [Pharo-project] Congrats

2011-01-14 Thread Steven Baker
I can't find an english translation. Can someone summarize this in english for me? Thanks, -Steven On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Miguel Cobá wrote: > Congrats Stéph, > > http://www.inria.fr/centre-de-recherche-inria/lille-nord-europe/actualites/un-chercheur-de-l-inria-a-la-york-university > >

Re: [Pharo-project] PHP Fog ...

2011-01-11 Thread Steven Baker
About 6 months ago I shelved a project for doing Heroku-style deployments from Pharo to Seaside. Perhaps I should dig out my backup and pick it up. I thought I was the only one that might want this, and I got caught up with some issues serializing and sending objects over the network. So that's my

[Pharo-project] WebClient with SSL

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Baker
Heya folks, I need SSL support for WebClient. SqueakSSL fails to build in my Pharo image. Is SqueakSSL supposed to work? (Before I spend more time troubleshooting it.) Is there another method? Thanks, -Steve

Re: [Pharo-project] Sharing a image between several computers

2010-10-28 Thread Steven Baker
I don't copy images, I put everything in Monticello and share the code. But I'd still like to hear what everyone else's workflow is. -Steven On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Oscar E A Callau wrote: > Hi all, > >       I've been programming in Smalltalk/Pharo for a time, and it is really > nice

Re: [Pharo-project] is Squeaksource down?

2010-10-13 Thread Steven Baker
That doesn't actually work, because squeaksource.com has a landing page. -Steven 2010/10/13 Norbert Hartl : > http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/squeaksource.com > you can use this if you are asking yourself. > Norbert > On 13.10.2010, at 09:40, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > yes from here :( >