Hi Stan, To my knowledge there is no ESUG list yet but I have to say that I
was just wondering the same thing since Janko and Mariano now have to
cross-post to communicate any GSoC messages for those not using Nabble.
Maybe ESUG can create a Google Group so I can add it to Nabble too?
Cheers, Gee
Hi Geert, is there a separate ESUG list that is not under your Smalltalk
Nabble umbrella yet?
The Google SOC thing got very confusing very quickly; depending on who is
subscribed to which list, you may or may not see bits of a thread. (less of
an issue if you're viewing on Nabble). Do we need an
Nice one. Is it possible to get Metacello in the mix as well?
...Stan
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Thanks, I posted a brief message on the GNU and Squeak (beginners) mailing
lists. Acting upon Janko's great suggestion I also asked Nabble support to
help me get the mailing lists of VisualWorks and Swazoo moved here too
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I do not want a war or competition. This is not positive thinking.
We have enough to do and I want fun.
I think that we have the history for us so let us reinvent the future.
The competitors are ruby, lua, python, groovy and many more.
We can learn a lot from them. Squeak situation forced us to
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> I think, if you really want to compare, you should look closer than what the
> two slogans say. Just one example: bugs.squeak.org currently has 2315 open
> issues...
Does that number apply for the current squeak developement? Or did you
just look a
On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> I think, if you really want to compare, you should look closer than what the
> two slogans say. Just one example: bugs.squeak.org currently has 2315 open
> issues...
>
while we have 300 open issues and 1581 closed ones. The first report w
I think, if you really want to compare, you should look closer than what the
two slogans say. Just one example: bugs.squeak.org currently has 2315 open
issues...
Cheers,
Adrian
On Jan 27, 2010, at 17:39 , Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> "Adrian" == Adrian Lienhard writes:
>
> Adrian> "Pharo
Hi randall
Squeak can copy pharo' goals. There is no problem. We have always been clear -
in fact since the Squeak world
tour back in 1998 - I was a big fan of John Sarkela, Paul and Joseph ideas.
We started Kernel Cleaning Project
in Squeak 3.5. You know removing all the Smalltalk at: ev
> "Adrian" == Adrian Lienhard writes:
Adrian> "Pharo provides a clean and innovative MIT-licensed Smalltalk
Adrian> environment with a stable and small core system, excellent developer
Adrian> tools, and maintained releases."
Which, at this point, would not distinguish it from what Squeak co
I like yours as well!
Cheers,
Adrian
On Jan 27, 2010, at 15:20 , Geert Claes wrote:
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> Thats almost the same as what I came up with: "Pharo is an open-source
> Smalltalk implementation providing a stable and small core system with
> excellent developer tools to build and deploy mission critica
Geert, do you think it would be useful to post this on the other Smalltalk
lists as well?
Another benefit it that you can now search for answers across the dialects,
e.g.
http://n4.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?days=0&query=merge+fork&sort=date&forum=1294792
http://n4.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?d
Thats almost the same as what I came up with: "Pharo is an open-source
Smalltalk implementation providing a stable and small core system with
excellent developer tools to build and deploy mission critical
applications."
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sure, here is one sentence:
"Pharo provides a clean and innovative MIT-licensed Smalltalk environment with
a stable and small core system, excellent developer tools, and maintained
releases."
Adrian
On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:05 , Geert Claes wrote:
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>
> Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>>
>> Geert, w
Geert, indeed thanks a lot for this Smalltalk unification efford :) We
need it!
Best regards
Janko
On 26. 01. 2010 23:03, Geert Claes wrote:
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> I managed (with some assistance from Nabble support) to group several
> Smalltalk mailing lists on Nabble under the common category "Smalltalk"
> (http
On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Geert Claes wrote:
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> I thought you were going to be Pharo clean for one or two weeks? :)
heu I'm not stef I'm his son ... my dad is working... I'm just browsing his
mail
and heu :)
Stef
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote:
> +1
> We are more than a fork!
>
> Stef
Absolutely! At the very least, we are a Phork! :-p
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I thought you were going to be Pharo clean for one or two weeks? :)
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Adrian Lienhard wrote:
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> Geert, would it be possible to update the description of Pharo that
> currently reads "Pharo is a fork from the Squeak open-source Smalltalk."?
>
> I suggest: "Pharo's goal is to deliver a clean, innovative, free
> open-source Smalltalk environment. By providing a sta
+1
We are more than a fork!
Stef
On Jan 27, 2010, at 8:49 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> Geert, would it be possible to update the description of Pharo that currently
> reads "Pharo is a fork from the Squeak open-source Smalltalk."?
>
> I suggest: "Pharo's goal is to deliver a clean, innovative,
Geert, would it be possible to update the description of Pharo that currently
reads "Pharo is a fork from the Squeak open-source Smalltalk."?
I suggest: "Pharo's goal is to deliver a clean, innovative, free open-source
Smalltalk environment. By providing a stable and small core system, excellent
Thanks, Geert!
I updated the web page.
I added the general Nabble Smalltalk link in the FAQ.
Cheers,
Adrian
On Jan 27, 2010, at 07:54 , laurent laffont wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Stan Shepherd
> wrote:
>
>>
>> That's really neat Geert. Nice to view Smalltalk as one communit
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Stan Shepherd
wrote:
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> That's really neat Geert. Nice to view Smalltalk as one community:
> http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-f1294792.topics.html
> ...Stan
>
>
Really cool ! Is it possible to add this link on the pharo website ?
Larent
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That's really neat Geert. Nice to view Smalltalk as one community:
http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-f1294792.topics.html
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Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
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> OkI have just saw if with your email...but is it possible also if I
> post from email instead from Nabble ?
>
Hi Mariano, if you post to the mailing list via email Nabble, will only grab
it and add it to the archive so it won't add that bit I believe.
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On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Geert Claes wrote:
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> As far as I know Nabble adds this "View this message in context" bit
> automatically when posted from Nabble.
>
OkI have just saw if with your email...but is it possible also if I post
from email instead from Nabble ?
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As far as I know Nabble adds this "View this message in context" bit
automatically when posted from Nabble.
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Geert: Thanks!
Sorry for being a little OT. I don't know very much about Gmane, nabble,
etc. I just configured it only once for the squeakdbx mailing list.
But in certain mailing list, I saw that at the end of a mail (thread) you
have automatically put the link to Gmane/Nabble. And this is really
I managed (with some assistance from Nabble support) to group several
Smalltalk mailing lists on Nabble under the common category "Smalltalk"
(http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-f1294792.html).
To get them all to appear together the Pharo forums had to move Pharo to the
a common n4 server or someth
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