Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-22 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 21.11.2012 18:55, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com mailto:siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2012 12:47, Fernando Olivero fernando.oliv...@usi.ch mailto:fernando.oliv...@usi.ch wrote: I totally agree. Dummy

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Fernando Olivero
I totally agree. Dummy does not tell me about the class. Are there just 3 uses of Dummy in the core? We should either use Null or use a specific prefix always, so its form a consisten pattern. DummyUIManager - NullUIManager Fernando On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 21 November 2012 12:47, Fernando Olivero fernando.oliv...@usi.ch wrote: I totally agree. Dummy does not tell me about the class. Are there just 3 uses of Dummy in the core? We should either use Null or use a specific prefix always, so its form a consisten pattern. DummyUIManager -

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-11-21, at 12:34, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: From what I understand, Dummy means something different. I have using that for class names. More accurate names can be found. I would rename: DummyUIManager - HeadlessUIManager it's actually more like

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Marten Feldtmann
Nicht um 1600 Uhr ? Wolltest Du nicht noch Unterlagen rumschicken ? marten On 21.11.2012 16:47, Fernando Olivero wrote: I totally agree. Dummy does not tell me about the class. Are there just 3 uses of Dummy in the core? We should either use Null or use a specific prefix always, so its

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
DeafX Deaf suggesting an X that's non reactive as you would normally expect On Nov 21, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Fernando Olivero wrote: I totally agree. Dummy does not tell me about the class. Are there just 3 uses of Dummy in the core? We should either use Null or use a specific prefix

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Max Leske
How about void or noon? On 21.11.2012, at 17:07, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: DeafX Deaf suggesting an X that's non reactive as you would normally expect On Nov 21, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Fernando Olivero wrote: I totally agree. Dummy does not tell me

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yes I would prefer. Stef On Nov 21, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: From what I understand, Dummy means something different. I have using that for class names. More accurate names can be found. I would rename: DummyUIManager - HeadlessUIManager DummySystemProgressItem -

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2012 12:47, Fernando Olivero fernando.oliv...@usi.ch wrote: I totally agree. Dummy does not tell me about the class. Are there just 3 uses of Dummy in the core? We should either use Null or use a

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 21 November 2012 14:55, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2012 12:47, Fernando Olivero fernando.oliv...@usi.ch wrote: I totally agree. Dummy does not tell me about the class.

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 21 November 2012 15:11, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2012 14:55, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2012 12:47, Fernando Olivero fernando.oliv...@usi.ch

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
be careful with precision vs. intuition conventions each of them have benefits for the long and short term also a price On Nov 21, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 21 November 2012 15:11, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2012 14:55, Mariano Martinez

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
I vote for Null* For me Deaf* reminds me the DeafObject of Dolphin which always returns itself (or true to #mustBeBoolean). It is some kind of /dev/null, useful to the creation of the GUI, where some objects aren't available yet and might get an undesired message. Regards! -- View this

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Camillo Bruni
why? It is not a complete NULL UIManager. A NullUIManager would implement all the API and do nothing (or implement nothing but only #doesNotUnderstand: doing nothing or something like that) DummyUIManger DOES stuff, but it makes sures not to end up calling the UI (like progress bar,

Re: [Pharo-project] I don't agree with DummyXXX

2012-11-21 Thread Sebastian Nozzi
What about SilentXXX? 2012/11/21 Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com: why? It is not a complete NULL UIManager. A NullUIManager would implement all the API and do nothing (or implement nothing but only #doesNotUnderstand: doing nothing or something like that) DummyUIManger DOES stuff, but