Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-07 Thread Miguel Cobá
El mié, 06-04-2011 a las 19:48 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz escribió: > > "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich writes: > > Serge> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz > Serge> wrote: > >>> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich writes: > >> > Serge> Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) >

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-07 Thread Miguel Cobá
El mié, 06-04-2011 a las 19:38 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz escribió: > > "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich writes: > > Serge> Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) > > Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev? Sorry. That is because there isn't an announcement yet. It only ment

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-07 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Geert" == Geert Claes writes: Geert> That's where the ConfigurationOf...'s and Metacello come in to ensure Geert> dependencies, versions and Smalltalk implementations. I guess I'm thinking more of development. The question we were facing about Squeaksource (and don't yet know if this app

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-07 Thread Janko Mivšek
.. and I see Metacello as a nice next step for SmalltalkHub: Metacello based projects can be regarded as: serious, maintained, trustful,.. in any case, those projects will be separated by itself from all other code. So we won't need to care much about those not much useful code in the repository..

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-07 Thread Nicolas Petton
Le mercredi 06 avril 2011 à 19:38 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz a écrit : > > "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich writes: > > Serge> Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) > > Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev? Sorry. Hi Randal, You should blame me for that. Cheers, Nicolas

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Geert Claes
Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > OK, so if this is a general replacement for Squeaksource, the "tagging" > issue comes up again. How do we identify which branch of Squeak a package > might be for? And can we maintain forks for those things that > require it? > That's where the ConfigurationOf...

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Dale Henrichs
Randal, Managing packages on a per platform basis is one of the things that Metacello was designed to do ... Dale On Apr 6, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich writes: > > Serge> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz > Serge> wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich writes: > > Serge> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz > Serge> wrote: "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich writes: >>> > Serge> Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) >>> >>> Oh, di

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich writes: Serge> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz Serge> wrote: >>> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich writes: >> Serge> Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) >> >> Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev?  Sorry. Serge> The

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich writes: > > Serge> Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) > > Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev?  Sorry. There was no announcement on squeak-dev. Nicolas forget about that i gue

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Serge" == Serge Stinckwich writes: Serge> Yes, but this SmalltalkHub not PharoHub ;-) Oh, did I miss the parallel announcement on squeak-dev? Sorry. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix co

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> "Janko" == Janko Mivšek writes: > >>> I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from >>> SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has >>> accumulated on SqueakSource during the

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Janko" == Janko Mivšek writes: >> I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from >> SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has >> accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years... Janko> But still there can be something good and

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Unless there is a scalability issue, I would not discard anything from > squeaksource. I believe the evolution is too valuable to simply drop it. > > But, maybe there are practical reasons. > > In any case, the idea of having programati

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Nicolas Petton
Le mercredi 06 avril 2011 à 20:30 +0200, Noury Bouraqadi a écrit : > Cool! I guess you didn't you use JTalkST (too young), did you? No, it's too young to be used in real world apps. Maybe in the future ;) cheers, Nico -- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> Hi, > > Unless there is a scalability issue, I would not discard anything from > squeaksource. I believe the evolution is too valuable to simply drop it. > > But, maybe there are practical reasons. May be we could have a second server where we copy everything there. We will see how we will m

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
But you have the tool: Gofer :) Stef On Apr 6, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Wow, looks great! > > I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from > SqueakSource ;). It's an opportu

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Unless there is a scalability issue, I would not discard anything from squeaksource. I believe the evolution is too valuable to simply drop it. But, maybe there are practical reasons. In any case, the idea of having programatic access is really cool. I would love to use that for analysis p

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
Cool! I guess you didn't you use JTalkST (too young), did you? On 6 avr. 2011, at 13:00, Nicolas Petton wrote: > Hi, > > We've been working on a new code repository & project management > application for Smalltalk with ESUG named SmalltalkHub. > > If everything goes fine, the app should be in p

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Janko Mivšek
On 06. 04. 2011 18:34, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Wow, looks great! > > I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from > SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has > accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years... But still there can be

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Wow, looks great! > > I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from > SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has > accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years... > > +1 But prov

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Wow, looks great! I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years... Cheers, Adrian On Apr 6, 2011, at 13:07 , Tudor Girba wrote: > Phenomenal st

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
What we ask is: - scripting api so that we do not have to click click click click but write programs - tagging of projects - management of projects (admin I want to be able to tag projects with students and do not see them). - handling of ^%$$%&*#^&*^$&$* long li

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Fernando Olivero
Excellent ! It's time to move past squeaksource.com. Would be nice to know the features that will be offered, at least in comparison with current squeaksource (besides the image crashing, and bothering the always helpful Bern phd students). Fernando On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Mariano Marti

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Nicolas Petton wrote: > Le mercredi 06 avril 2011 à 13:07 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit : > > Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a possibility > to migrate the existing squeaksource there? > > There is nothing at the moment to migrate. > > I gu

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Nicolas Petton
Le mercredi 06 avril 2011 à 13:07 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit : > Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a possibility to > migrate the existing squeaksource there? There is nothing at the moment to migrate. I guess you'll just have to move your packages from squeaksource to

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Phenomenal stuff :). I cannot wait to use it. Will there be a possibility to migrate the existing squeaksource there? Cheers, Doru On 6 Apr 2011, at 13:00, Nicolas Petton wrote: > Hi, > > We've been working on a new code repository & project management > application for Smalltalk with ESUG n

[Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Nicolas Petton
Hi, We've been working on a new code repository & project management application for Smalltalk with ESUG named SmalltalkHub. If everything goes fine, the app should be in public beta in a week. The source code of SmalltalkHub will be available at the same moment (the project itself is hosted by S