Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo-project Digest, Vol 58, Issue 10

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi angelo I would say that you would have to be really annoying first to start to disturb us. Our resistance is quite high and the community is really friendly. So welcome! Do not hesitate to ask any questions you have :) Stef On Feb 10, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Angelo Schneider

Re: [Pharo-project] Give http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 some love !

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
I committed HashTable from Squeaksource. I will continue to do the same for the libraries needed for Moose. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Migrated HashTable from ss to SmalltalkHub

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 10, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 10 Feb 2013, at 15:16, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: - migrated all the history - defined configurationOf - All tests are green under 1.4 and 2.0 Stef Dear I ask: what is HastTable and how

[Pharo-project] About common semantics :)

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
Dale working on phexample (which worked well on 2.0) I changed stable: spec symbolicVersion: #stable spec for: #'common' version: '1.0'. into stable: spec symbolicVersion: #stable spec for: #'pharo1.4.x' version: '1.1'. spec for: #'pharo2.x' version:

Re: [Pharo-project] About dependency granularity in metacello

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks mariano in essence what you are saying is that when we depend on a project we have the responsibility to define at our level the package from which we depend on. I think that I will add a section on the book chapter. Stef On Feb 10, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck

Re: [Pharo-project] Migrated HashTable from ss to SmalltalkHub

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
. Fernando On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-02-10, at 16:34, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: On Feb 10, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 10 Feb 2013, at 15:16, Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-project] SystemNavigation #allSelect:

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
open an issue for 3.0 so that we do not forget Stef On Feb 10, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: Why does SystemNavigation #allSelect: return strings of the form 'Array at:' instead of the real methods?

Re: [Pharo-project] I will customize phexample to work on both 1.4 and 2.0

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
I have no idea. I'm sorry but I'm rather busy (in fact more than busy). I will not have the time to produce a version that works for other dialects. Now if this is a problem I will simply fork the project. We have to migrate Moose to 2.0 and this is not an easy task. We want to rewrite all the

Re: [Pharo-project] About common semantics :)

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
Dale I have another question what is the interaction between saying that a given version is stable using a symbolic version and having the development tag in the version? For example I'm migrating merlin and I have stable: spec symbolicVersion: #'stable' spec for: #'common'

Re: [Pharo-project] Empty top level class category

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
This bug is a vicious one and today I saw it again when I wanted to load the version of stefan of phexample on top of the version of squeaksource. It will keep us busy….. argh Stef Issue 7478: [BUG]: Empty top level class category creation Tracked it down to starting with the following

Re: [Pharo-project] Phexample should methods

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 10, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Stefan Marr smallt...@stefan-marr.de wrote: While wondering how to simply support Pharo 1.4 and Pharo 2.0 at the same time, I noticed something I didn't think about before. Phexample does use the following code to identify what a test method is: each

Re: [Pharo-project] Empty top level class category

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
do you have a reproducible case? Stef On Feb 10, 2013, at 9:50 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: From the issue... This doesn't look right to me... Item was changed: - Method: RPackageSetsystemCategories (in category 'system compatibility') -systemCategories +

Re: [Pharo-project] Give http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 some love !

2013-02-10 Thread stephane ducasse
I committed Merlin. I played with it and it is a good wizard builder we should use it more often. Stef On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: With 2.0 almost ready, it would be great if everybody gave http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 some love.

Re: [Pharo-project] CommandShell and OSProcess updated for Pharo 2.0

2013-02-11 Thread stephane ducasse
I published a new version of the badly named ConfigurationOfOSProcess. Next steps: - renaming it to ConfigurationOfCommandShell - explicit the dependency to OSProcess - Check what sean did and publish Stef On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:14 AM, David T. Lewis le...@mail.msen.com

Re: [Pharo-project] CommandShell and OSProcess updated for Pharo 2.0

2013-02-11 Thread stephane ducasse
David In fact Sean and others did a good job so I will update their configurations and publish them in the squeaksource repository and the MetaRepoForPharo20. I will let you know when you can test it. Stef Stef, Thanks! Probably we should call this ConfigurationOfCommandShell, because we

Re: [Pharo-project] Jenkin's builds of the Android CogVM

2013-02-11 Thread stephane ducasse
Sure :) I will let the jenkiners reply to you. Stef Hi, I've noticed that the Jenkin's builds of the Android Cog VM's have stopped working. They are referenced from http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/wiki/JenkinsBuilds An example which worked back in mid January would have

Re: [Pharo-project] SystemNavigation #allSelect:

2013-02-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi eliot We worked on Ring for more than a year and it is a complete source code meta model and it is just to remove pseudo class and the rest. We should check for the TextReference idea. Stef On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 February

Re: [Pharo-project] http://www.squeaksource.com/ShapeST80

2013-02-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Move it to moose this is an old abstraction about what is a circle or a line. On Feb 12, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Usman Bhatti usman.bha...@gmail.com wrote: I am moving EyeSee from squeaksource to SThub. EyeSee has a dependency on ShapeST80 (ss/ShapeST80). Should I move this project to Moose team or

Re: [Pharo-project] CommandShell and OSProcess updated for Pharo 2.0

2013-02-12 Thread stephane ducasse
normally On Feb 12, 2013, at 5:59 PM, David T. Lewis le...@mail.msen.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 08:13:39AM -0800, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: stephane ducasse wrote I will update their configurations and publish them in the squeaksource repository and the MetaRepoForPharo20. I fixed

Re: [Pharo-project] About Monticello Meta Data...

2013-02-13 Thread stephane ducasse
So concretely what can we do? Let us try to condense sources and see if it is working. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] [ann] glamorous debugger (alpha)

2013-02-13 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:04 AM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: excellent we should push it in 3.0 :) along with Glamour? Or do you want a spec-based UI as well? there is already a spec version

Re: [Pharo-project] Clock/Delay problems

2013-02-13 Thread stephane ducasse
Sven can you add a bug entry because igor and camillo were discussing about the strange logic of DateAndTime? Stef On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: I have seen this before, and it is probably related to other problems that we have been seeing lately:

Re: [Pharo-project] CommandShell and OSProcess updated for Pharo 2.0

2013-02-13 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: stephane ducasse wrote @sean what was the problem because I tested it several time on 1.4 and 2.0 The tests were failing due to FS differences between 1.4 and 2.0. I uploaded fixes, so we could do a 4.5.1

Re: [Pharo-project] CommandShell and OSProcess updated for Pharo 2.0

2013-02-13 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 13, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 February 2013 16:03, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: stephane ducasse wrote @sean what was the problem because I

Re: [Pharo-project] Clock/Delay problems

2013-02-13 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 13, 2013, at 6:39 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Don't know if this is related but the 2.0 image seems to runs slower on my box (20543 now). this is strange because people told me exactly the inverse yesterday (comparing to 1.4). So this is difficult to assess. Stef Also a

Re: [Pharo-project] Rectangleintersects: change Rationale

2013-02-13 Thread stephane ducasse
Nicolas what I know is that with igor we fixed all the senders of fractions:offset: and after igor introduced intersect:ifNone: to avoid generating wrong rectangles with negative values. I thought that intersect: was deprecated. or the precondition should be clearer. Stef On Feb 13, 2013,

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] Fwd: A question about lookup and message reification

2013-02-14 Thread stephane ducasse
So just run an image with the simulator and stop at any of commonSend, internalFindNewMethod, lookupMethodInClass: and you'll see the call chain form the relevant send bytecode. Here's an expression that loads and runs an image with the StackInterpreter: cool I will see if I can show

[Pharo-project] I thought that we introduced the extended naming color

2013-02-15 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi I thought that we introduced the extended naming colors from Johan Fabry and I cannot find them in the image. Does anybody have an idea? Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] I thought that we introduced the extended naming color

2013-02-15 Thread stephane ducasse
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4018 :) Hi I thought that we introduced the extended naming colors from Johan Fabry and I cannot find them in the image. Does anybody have an idea? Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Another stupid question

2013-02-16 Thread stephane ducasse
so could you write two tests and submit a slice so that we improve the system Stef convertFromBase: sourceBase to: targetBase Convert the receiver (who has to represent a number string) from the given source base to the given target base ''

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo vm builds restored

2013-02-16 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks igor and esteban. Stef On Feb 16, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Things you should know: - all VMs including: OSProcess plugin SSL Plugin (bundled with ssl library for win32) NB Plugin Freetype (bundled with freetype library for win32 mac)

Re: [Pharo-project] obsolete behaviors in image

2013-02-16 Thread stephane ducasse
indeed it looks strange. stef On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Hi In 20547, I do: SystemNavigation default obsoleteBehaviors. and obtain: an Array(Behavior Behavior class) Which sounds weird. I tried with: SystemNavigation default

Re: [Pharo-project] Publishing OrderPreservingDictionary to SmalltalkHub

2013-02-16 Thread stephane ducasse
I published also CharacterMap. So now I will be able to migrate XMLWriter and XMLParser and probably Soup. Stef On Feb 16, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys just to let you know that I'm migrating OrderPreservingDictionary from SS to SmalltalkHub.

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems with Metacello

2013-02-17 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 16, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi Dale I have two questions: first question: className usage in presence of regular package. --- In the following

Re: [Pharo-project] Migrated XMLWriter to SmalltalkHub

2013-02-17 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 17, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Feb 17, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys I migrated XMLWriter from Squeaksource to Smalltalkhub. I added a little test package and removed the fact that some

Re: [Pharo-project] Migrated XMLWriter to SmalltalkHub

2013-02-17 Thread stephane ducasse
: Creating classes with Strings as the key in Smalltalk. Thanks marcus. - Issue 2480: prepare deprecation of and:and: + deprecated and:and:and:and: So just ignoring On Feb 17, 2013, at 12:00 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: On Feb 17, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Marcus Denker

Re: [Pharo-project] About migrating Pharo 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2 and 1.3 from ss to Smalltalkhub

2013-02-17 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 17, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: We should have a import button I think ^^ :) I would like to be able to remove wrong file :) For the import button I can manage it :) Ben we should migrate spec from SS3 to Pharo. Do you want me to do it. I'm

Re: [Pharo-project] About migrating Pharo 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2 and 1.3 from ss to Smalltalkhub

2013-02-17 Thread stephane ducasse
my todo :) and it says migrate all SS and SS3 project i'm involved to Shub and go to the beach Stef Ben On Feb 17, 2013, at 12:32 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: On Feb 17, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: We should

Re: [Pharo-project] Migrated SS/Growl to Pharo/Archive

2013-02-17 Thread stephane ducasse
Stef, now that you are migrating everything to SmalltalkHub, are you: - putting a big text in the old repositories saying PROJECT XXX WAS MOVED TO YYY. Because then we run in problems where people refer/commit to old repos - make old project repo read only I did it for all the projects

Re: [Pharo-project] Aout community organization under SHub?

2013-02-17 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 17, 2013, at 9:29 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-02-17, at 21:21, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys I would like that under the PharoTeam we only get projects that are used for Pharo core more or less. Then I think that it would

[Pharo-project] How can I add a contributor to one of my project on SmalltalkHub?

2013-02-17 Thread stephane ducasse
because right now I do not see any button? Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Twibbon

2013-02-18 Thread stephane ducasse
yes! On Feb 18, 2013, at 4:27 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: The Pharo logo makes more sense to me... everyone agreed? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Twibbon-tp4670304p4670418.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalllint for Traits

2013-02-18 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks Juan Sebastian. Did you sign the license agreement? Stef On Feb 18, 2013, at 5:44 AM, aizcorbe juansebastian.aizco...@gmail.com wrote: I just uploaded an migration of the Smalllint for Traits using Nautilus and Pharo 2.0. I added the information here:

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello issues on Pharo 2.0

2013-02-20 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi christophe We should clear up this issue. Did you make progress on that front? The answer of dale are not really giving my hope. I do not want to base all our infrastructure on a tool that we do not know if it will be maintained. Stef On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Christophe Demarey

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello issues on Pharo 2.0

2013-02-20 Thread stephane ducasse
I could not load in Pharo 2.0 latest (ConfigurationOfMetacello project version: '1.0-beta.32') load: 'Tests' Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-20 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks christophe :) For me this would be ok. Is there an API for scripting it? Stef Hi all, I quickly developed a basic importer (Google code = Jira) so that everyone can play a bit with real data. There is still a lot of missing stuff that we can import (ex: labels, author) but I

Re: [Pharo-project] Magritte and Spec

2013-02-20 Thread stephane ducasse
:) is it based on Magritte 3 Since I'm using Spec for all my Pharo UIs, I'm interested in having Spec as the backend to Magritte. If anyone is interested, I started an experiment at http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/SpdPlayground/ . Look for the Magritte-Spec package. Cheers, Sean

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalllint for Traits

2013-02-20 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:46 AM, Gabriel Cotelli g.cote...@gmail.com wrote: The license page needs an update, Copyright (c) Pharo Project, and Contributors Copyright (c) 1996-2008 must be Copyright (c) Pharo Project,

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo software distribution agreement errata (was Smalllint for Traits)

2013-02-20 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:00 AM, aizcorbe juansebastian.aizco...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, is it possible to send a scan of the signed licence? where can i send it? to me or marcus. Stef where is an updated version of the licence? we should update it. Cheers -- View this message in

Re: [Pharo-project] [Issue Tracker][2.0] Down to 5 entries!

2013-02-20 Thread stephane ducasse
this is really great. Thanks esteban to push that hard! And thanks the others to join and push too :) Stef On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Just 5 issues left… http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2q=milestone%3D2.0

Re: [Pharo-project] Continuing weirdness with SS3.gemstone.com and Monticello in Pharo 2.0

2013-02-20 Thread stephane ducasse
are you sure that this is a freeze and not a timeout on the repository? Because the timeout can take some time. Stef On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:27 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Well, that's what you get from having people using some other kind of workflow that the usual one you gurus use since

Re: [Pharo-project] Weird behavior in Nautilus when doing a method rename

2013-02-20 Thread stephane ducasse
to rename a method without refactoring: just click on the method and in the method pan change its name and recompile Stef On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:25 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Yes, but the rename is *not* in the refactoring menu. It is *below* the refactoring menu. So, it is an unexpected

Re: [Pharo-project] Weird behavior in Nautilus when doing a method rename

2013-02-20 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: There is actually no simple way to simply rename a method. We should maybe add one which keep track of the versions :) sure there is: click on the method in the text pane change the selector of

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello issues on Pharo 2.0

2013-02-20 Thread stephane ducasse
Metacello is perfectly well maintained, and runs on a number of Smalltalks. I do not know. If Dale did not had a look since this summer this is 8 months ago. I have no problem that this would happen. I just want to know because we want to build all the validation of packages on top of

Re: [Pharo-project] spec className?

2013-02-21 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Dale Henrichs dhenr...@vmware.com wrote: Stef, The className: message will be optional with the release of the Metacello scripting API ... so it _is_ planned. Ok I thought it was. Good to know because I spent hours before I tried to add it. But this is

Re: [Pharo-project] projects to migrate/test on 2.0

2013-02-21 Thread stephane ducasse
Ok I will add that to my todo. Stef On Feb 21, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr wrote: Hi stef here is a list of the project we should validate for 2.0 Gofer spec project: 'Gofer Core' with: [

[Pharo-project] Soup has been migrated to SmalltalkHub/PharoExtras/Soup

2013-02-22 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi guys I migrated to SmalltalkHub/PharoExtras/Soup with Olivier Auverlot. And we are adding an integration server for soup :). If you want to contribute please register to SmalltalkHub and we will add you as contributors. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] About Pharo extras

2013-02-22 Thread stephane ducasse
Done and welcome :) Note that with smalltalkhub team member are admin and you can grant access to other people on a project basis by adding contributors. So I added you as admin on the PharoExtras team :) Stef On Feb 21, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] About Pharo extras

2013-02-22 Thread stephane ducasse
done :)

Re: [Pharo-project] MongoTalk dependency on Grease

2013-02-22 Thread stephane ducasse
+ 1 :) Configuration should not have upstream dependencies On Feb 22, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Janko Mivšek janko.miv...@eranova.si wrote: Hi guys, While loading ConfigurationOfMongoTalk the Grease loaded also RefactoringBrowser, Slime, etc. Does MongoTalk really needs RefactoringBrowser and

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo brainstorming workshop to produce Request For Improvements

2013-02-22 Thread stephane ducasse
yes please do :) Stef On Feb 21, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I think this is a very good idea. We could allocate a first slot at the PharoConf for this. Cheers, Doru On Feb 21, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo brainstorming workshop to produce Request For Improvements

2013-02-22 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 21, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Stéphane Ducasse wrote So it would be good if we could organize a workshop where we do not code but produce Documented Requests for Improvement. ... What do you think? Great idea! And, it would be great to have

Re: [Pharo-project] Weird behavior in Nautilus when doing a method rename

2013-02-22 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:43 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: There is actually no simple way

Re: [Pharo-project] Weird behavior in Nautilus when doing a method rename

2013-02-22 Thread stephane ducasse
For me the issue is not so much whether there there is another way to rename, but that it is an _unexpected_ refactoring in disguise yes I hate it. Stef -ben stephane ducasse wrote: to rename a method without refactoring: just click on the method and in the method pan change its

Re: [Pharo-project] Weird behavior in Nautilus when doing a method rename

2013-02-22 Thread stephane ducasse
. (Altough it looks like pretty cool!) Phil 2013/2/21 Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr: Le 20/02/2013 21:33, Benjamin a écrit : On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:43 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr mailto:stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:07 PM

Re: [Pharo-project] CI cleanup

2013-02-24 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks!!! On Feb 23, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: I just finished the next jenkins cleanup: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo contains now just the core projects: - images 1.4 and 2.0 - VMs All the other additional projects have been moved to the

Re: [Pharo-project] Osmocom Smalltalk packages available/ (mobile) communication packages for Pharo

2013-02-24 Thread stephane ducasse
I would be nice to know if they can propose a dual licensing GPL / MIT. But I could not find a way to contact the author. Sef Found this on the web: http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/zecke/making-my-osmocom-smalltalk-packages-available-pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] A solution to manage units like inches and centimeters in Pharo?

2013-02-24 Thread stephane ducasse
Yes I would like to migrate Aconcagua to SmalltalkHub :) On Feb 23, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I was going to suggest that. Maybe Hernan can say more. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Frank Shearar

Re: [Pharo-project] webdoc is back online

2013-02-24 Thread stephane ducasse
sweet! Thanks a lot. On Feb 23, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: I made a little effort to get webdoc up and running again. I think with the forthcoming stable release of pharo it makes sense to put an documentation of the whole system online. I took the

Re: [Pharo-project] BalloonCanvasdrawPolygon

2013-02-24 Thread stephane ducasse
this is not an issue that we were aware of. At least I did not. On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, When I use this method I get a beautiful red rectangle. And I can read http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7598 Do someone confirm the

Re: [Pharo-project] Building on Debian 6 amd64: not a walk in the park but works!

2013-02-24 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi phil why do you not use the pharo git version? Stef On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:21 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: I've been trying to build pharo on debian 6 amd64 I've installed: libc6dev-i386 ia32-libs Then downloaded coglinux from Eliot's site. Launching squeak on the

Re: [Pharo-project] Refactor: rename class give Spec bug.

2013-02-24 Thread stephane ducasse
. It provides a feel of what goes on in the system in terms of memory. I kind of like it and missed it from 1.4 Phil 2013/2/24 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr: what is Manuia Memory Monitor? Stef On Feb 24, 2013, at 6:02 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: I was trying to get the Manuia

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoConf Tutorial

2013-02-24 Thread stephane ducasse
Doru I could bring our video camera. The problem is not really to record but to process the files after. Stef On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: We will see if we find volunteers to record. We should be able to find some equipment. Doru On Feb 24,

Re: [Pharo-project] Osmocom Smalltalk packages available/ (mobile) communication packages for Pharo

2013-02-25 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks norbert. I contacted him. Stef On Feb 25, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: It is hol...@freyther.de Norbert Am 24.02.2013 um 11:47 schrieb stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr: I would be nice to know if they can propose a dual licensing GPL

[Pharo-project] Preparing PR for Pharo2.0

2013-02-25 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi guys I need your feedback have a look at http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharo20 and tell me what are the nice work we did that is not mentioned. STef

Re: [Pharo-project] BalloonCanvasdrawPolygon

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
issue I met with Balloon, even if its rendering is not exempt of unwished artifacts. No doubt Athens will be better but it adds the task to get Cairo on iOS and Android VM. Hilaire Le 24/02/2013 21:14, stephane ducasse a écrit : this is not an issue that we were aware of. At least I did

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello issues on Pharo 2.0

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 25, 2013, at 8:21 PM, Dale Henrichs dhenr...@vmware.com wrote: I think that the suspendAllWhile: call is important because a) some Metacello tests are sensitive to packages getting marked dirty or other events getting triggered … Christophe tried to removed them completely but there

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello issues on Pharo 2.0

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
| | let us know how you want that we proceed. I will have to look at the changes themselves to determine which direction to go ... if the changes are isolated enough I'd be inclined to hide them in MetacelloPlatform ... that's where the platform uglies go ... If the changes are

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] ZTimestamp[Precise]SNTPClient

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
I love the complete ecosystem you are step by step building. This is so great! Stef On Feb 26, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Hi, It is often important, especially for server applications, to know if the current local clock is still OK. The standard way for

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] ZTimestamp[Precise]SNTPClient

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
Serge what is important is to produce configuration for the projects. We are working on a tool to help us with that but this is not ready yet. This is a great strength of programming languages like Ruby or JavaScript/Node to propose large repositories of packages that could be installed

Re: [Pharo-project] BalloonCanvasdrawPolygon

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
good idea! create a bug entry so that we do not forget On Feb 26, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Le 26/02/2013 16:43, stephane ducasse a écrit : can you open a bug entry on the pharo bug tracker? so that we can have a look. Done. Btw

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] ZTimestamp[Precise]SNTPClient

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
There is no magic if as a programmer we do not define the dependencies we cannot do anything. ;) so we should define configurationOf and we will take real advantages of them. Now if you read the vision document you will see what we want: we want a distribution that will be filled up

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] ZTimestamp[Precise]SNTPClient

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
Oh, did you mean to type you had no idea IF the package would load? and work. OK, sure, but that's not really SM's fault, that's just the way things were. Nowadays with CI and all sorts of stuff we're (Pharo _and_ Squeak, I mean) in a much better place. There's still the modularity

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] ZTimestamp[Precise]SNTPClient

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
If you want to use SqueakMap go ahead. I have been there and now I know what I want for Pharo. Hi frank I never know what you mean when you say things like this. What is it that you want for Pharo? I wrote a 40 page vision document just for that. It was not really fun but this is an

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] ZTimestamp[Precise]SNTPClient

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
Frank if you want me to continue to interact with you on this topic (which I hope) :) you will have to read the document :) Read it it takes 10 min on this point and you will see what we are starting to do. I wrote it specifically to document this kind of discussion but I will not reproduce it

Re: [Pharo-project] iOS VM and external bluetooth keyboard

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:30 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: After a long hiatus, I've been back at hacking the iOS VM for supporting proper keystrokes from an external bluetooth keyboard. I guess I've nailed it down technically speaking (and learned a serious bunch about how the iOS VM is

Re: [Pharo-project] [Horrible Error]: Class creation not logged in changes

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 27, 2013, at 12:51 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Issue 7609: [Horrible Error]: Class creation not logged in changes https://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7609 #20567 1. Create a class in Nautilus pane 2. Recover lost changes Class creation will

Re: [Pharo-project] VM unstable

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 27, 2013, at 12:57 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: we still get very undeterministic results from our build server. I relaunched the Pharo-2.0-Tests several times with the exact same VM Image configuration. BUT, the outcome of the test results varies each time a

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Pharo-bugtracker] Issue 7608 in pharo: Add a parallel Collection enumeration

2013-02-26 Thread stephane ducasse
camillo you should discuss with olivier auverlot because he implemented fasterthanlight (in sthub/rmod) a pool manager for netwrok connection. Stef Begin forwarded message: From: ph...@googlecode.com Subject: [Pharo-bugtracker] Issue 7608 in pharo: Add a parallel Collection enumeration

[Pharo-project] I'm migrating gettext from SS to SmalltalkHub/PharoExtras

2013-02-27 Thread stephane ducasse
hi hilaire I'm migrating gettext to its own project under PharoExtras. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Is this possible with XMLWriter?

2013-02-27 Thread stephane ducasse
+1 Mariano I'm about to migrate the XMLParser to SmalltalkHub and I know that you have a DOMTree and a saxAPI So with the DOMTree I do not see why we could not manipulate the tree. Stef On 27 Feb 2013, at 21:18, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: To do what he wants he

Re: [Pharo-project] iOS VM - Sure not right for iDevices...

2013-02-27 Thread stephane ducasse
esteban is absent until monday so he will probably answer when he is back. On Feb 27, 2013, at 6:43 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Yeah but it is not. StackIPhoneConfig new addExternalPlugins: #( FT2Plugin ); generateDebug; generateSources; generate. and I had to comment

Re: [Pharo-project] VM unstable

2013-02-27 Thread stephane ducasse
Marcus we were looking at delay and dateAndTime with igor and I wonder if there is not a relationship between all the date and time delays and the fact that you put the cleanForRelease systematically for each build. We may have found a bug in/related startTimerEventLoop when you look at the

Re: [Pharo-project] Stressing SmalltalkHub :)

2013-02-27 Thread stephane ducasse
it is on the Gofer chapter :) Stef On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Will be nice to link it somewhere on SmalltalkHub because this question will be asked zillion of times? Hilaire Le 27/02/2013 12:35, Damien Cassou a écrit :

Re: [Pharo-project] Stressing SmalltalkHub :)

2013-02-27 Thread stephane ducasse
and soon on internet. it is on the Gofer chapter :) Stef On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Will be nice to link it somewhere on SmalltalkHub because this question will be asked zillion of times? Hilaire Le 27/02/2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Stressing SmalltalkHub :)

2013-02-27 Thread stephane ducasse
Hilaire use something like that. you can filter…. | go | go := Gofer new. go squeaksource: 'DrGeo'. (go allResolved select: [ :each | 'DrGeo*' match: each packageName]) do: [ :pack | pack packageName crLog. go package: pack packageName; fetch] | go repo |

Re: [Pharo-project] VM unstable

2013-02-28 Thread stephane ducasse
On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:38 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Marcus we were looking at delay and dateAndTime with igor and I wonder if there is not a relationship between all the date

Re: [Pharo-project] Crash seemingly related to becomeForward: on linux

2013-02-28 Thread stephane ducasse
I have the impression that there are several problems together. May be removing the cleanUpforRelease and see if it fixes the problems with dateandtime delays is a good move. Stef On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: To rule out side-effects, I suggest

Re: [Pharo-project] test job

2013-02-28 Thread stephane ducasse
+1 I want everything automatic :) I made a multidimensional matrix test job running each VM twice https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-2.0-Tests/ maybe a slight overkill for now, but at least you should spot irregularities easier.. :-) I like how a automatic build and a build

Re: [Pharo-project] test job

2013-02-28 Thread stephane ducasse
Olin Shivers: I object to doing things that computers can do. Amen. Automating your builds keeps you honest! oh yes and this is why we have been working on a full bootstrap :) because we will identify old dependencies and rotten skeletons even if we made already huge progress. frank

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