[Pharo-users] Post on how to install pharo

2013-07-23 Thread Guillermo Polito
Hi guys, I've written a small post on the current mechanisms for download and deploy pharo images and vms. Of course it may not be complete, just wanted to make noise :). So, feedback and retweets are welcome ;). http://playingwithobjects.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/installing-pharo-in-many-flavors/

Re: [Pharo-users] [rmod] Post on how to install pharo

2013-07-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks we love noise :) On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi guys, > > I've written a small post on the current mechanisms for download and deploy > pharo images and vms. Of course it may not be complete, just wanted to make > noise :). So, feedback and retweets are wel

Re: [Pharo-users] [rmod] Post on how to install pharo

2013-07-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Guilermo I would like to turn your blog entry into Gutenberg. I will do it while reading it as a kata exercise. Now I'm thinking that I could write a outputer for Gutenberg to produce the blog contents. What is the format used to edit your blog? Because like that we could change edit gutenberg f

Re: [Pharo-users] [rmod] Post on how to install pharo

2013-07-23 Thread Guillermo Polito
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote: > Guilermo > > I would like to turn your blog entry into Gutenberg. I will do it while > reading it as a kata exercise. > Nice! > Now I'm thinking that I could write a outputer for Gutenberg to produce > the

Re: [Pharo-users] [rmod] Post on how to install pharo

2013-07-23 Thread Guillermo Polito
So far, the HTML tags supported are these: http://en.support.wordpress.com/code/#html-tags and the code should be exported as this: http://en.support.wordpress.com/code/posting-source-code/ For syntax coloring I'm using ruby, just like [code language="ruby"] self bla: 1 + super ble. [/code]

[Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Norbert Hartl
I try to untangle my modules. I have a parser that creates a model and a tool that uses that model. For testing it is convenient to just generate the model and work with it. But this way I introduce dependencies which always pulls everything in. In order to untangle I would need a way to easily

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Norbert, for similar purposes (INI-File contents etc.), in order to keep them under version control in envy, I wrote methods that produced a String that could recreate the objects when evaluated. Such a piece of text makes for a great class or instance method that you can compile into some Sm

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Have a look at InstanceEncoder http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/InstanceEncoder Hernán El 23/07/2013 7:47, Norbert Hartl escribió: I try to untangle my modules. I have a parser that creates a model and a tool that uses that model. For testing it is convenient to just generate the model

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
HI again, I just saw the link I posted doesn't work right now. The objektfabrik site moved to a new server a while agow and it seems a few files didn't make it. The upload is currently in process, so please check back in an hour or so. Joachim Am 23.07.13 13:25, schrieb jtuc...@objektfabrik

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 23.07.2013 um 13:20 schrieb Hernán Morales Durand : > Have a look at InstanceEncoder > > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/InstanceEncoder > Thanks, how would you say it works compared to store an Fuel ByteArray? Norbert > > El 23/07/2013 7:47, Norbert Hartl escribió: >> I try to unta

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Norbert Hartl
Joachim, Am 23.07.2013 um 13:25 schrieb "jtuc...@objektfabrik.de" : > Norbert, > > for similar purposes (INI-File contents etc.), in order to keep them under > version control in envy, I wrote methods that produced a String that could > recreate the objects when evaluated. Such a piece of tex

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Norbert, Am 23.07.13 14:07, schrieb Norbert Hartl: Joachim, I'm aware that you can do serialization/deserialization yourself. I was asking for something to help along the way because a have quite some model classes to cover. I want a more generalized way of doing it. As often I really think a

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 23.07.2013 um 14:23 schrieb "jtuc...@objektfabrik.de" : > Norbert, > > Am 23.07.13 14:07, schrieb Norbert Hartl: >> Joachim, >> >> I'm aware that you can do serialization/deserialization yourself. I was >> asking for something to help along the way because a have quite some model >> class

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 23.07.2013 um 14:23 schrieb "jtuc...@objektfabrik.de" : > Norbert, > > Am 23.07.13 14:07, schrieb Norbert Hartl: >> Joachim, >> >> I'm aware that you can do serialization/deserialization yourself. I was >> asking for something to help along the way because a have quite some model >> class

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Norbert, does the model have lots of strings? Because if so you can try using the compression. It may increase speed. There is always a trade off between the additional time of compressing/uncompressing. But if the model has quite an amount of strings, since writing to disk is also slow and the fin

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Norbert Hartl
Mariano, Am 23.07.2013 um 14:43 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck : > Norbert, does the model have lots of strings? Because if so you can try using > the compression. It may increase speed. There is always a trade off between > the additional time of compressing/uncompressing. But if the model has

Re: [Pharo-users] [rmod] Post on how to install pharo

2013-07-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok will port your blog to gutenberg and we can compare and you let me know if the html is ok after I can generate the stuff for the code. stef > So far, the HTML tags supported are these: > > http://en.support.wordpress.com/code/#html-tags > > and the code should be exported as this: > > htt

Re: [Pharo-users] [rmod] Post on how to install pharo

2013-07-23 Thread Guillermo Polito
Next week you can show me gutenberg so next time I do it myself :P On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Ok will port your blog to gutenberg and we can compare and you let me know > if the html is ok > after I can generate the stuff for the code. > > stef > > > So far, the

[Pharo-users] Change the Package-Chooser-Dialog when using "Move to package..."?

2013-07-23 Thread MartinW
Hi, i always find the Package-Chooser-Dialog (See Screenshot) when using "Move to package..." (e.g. from Nautilus) very strange to use. Why not replacing it with "SearchFacade rPackageSearch" (See second Screenshot)? I tried by changing AbstractTool >> moveInNewPackage: from: moveInNewPackage: aC

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Mariano, > > Am 23.07.2013 um 14:43 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianop...@gmail.com>: > > Norbert, does the model have lots of strings? Because if so you can try > using the compression. It may increase speed. There is always a trade

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
El 23/07/2013 9:01, Norbert Hartl escribió: Am 23.07.2013 um 13:20 schrieb Hernán Morales Durand : Have a look at InstanceEncoder http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/InstanceEncoder Thanks, how would you say it works compared to store an Fuel ByteArray? This is not difficult to test.

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Norbert Hartl
Hernán, Am 23.07.2013 um 16:13 schrieb Hernán Morales Durand : > El 23/07/2013 9:01, Norbert Hartl escribió: >> >> Am 23.07.2013 um 13:20 schrieb Hernán Morales Durand >> : >> >>> Have a look at InstanceEncoder >>> >>> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/InstanceEncoder >>> >> Thanks, how

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Max Leske
On 23.07.2013, at 15:32, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Mariano, > > Am 23.07.2013 um 14:43 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck : > >> Norbert, does the model have lots of strings? Because if so you can try >> using the compression.

Re: [Pharo-users] Change the Package-Chooser-Dialog when using "Move to package..."?

2013-07-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
+ 1 ;) Stef On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:02 PM, MartinW wrote: > Hi, > i always find the Package-Chooser-Dialog (See Screenshot) when using "Move > to package..." (e.g. from Nautilus) very strange to use. > Why not replacing it with "SearchFacade rPackageSearch" (See second > Screenshot)? > > I tri

Re: [Pharo-users] [rmod] Post on how to install pharo

2013-07-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
sure! You can have a look at the github repos and the readme. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/ https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/120/artifact/Installation/Installation.pier.html I just finished it :) On Jul 23, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Gui

Re: [Pharo-users] Storing test data in methods

2013-07-23 Thread Norbert Hartl
Max, Am 23.07.2013 um 17:27 schrieb Max Leske : > > On 23.07.2013, at 15:32, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> Mariano, >> >> Am 23.07.2013 um 14:43 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck : >> >>> Norbert, does the model have lots

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2.0 and Android

2013-07-23 Thread hilaire
You should ask Dimitry Golubovsky because he's the man who knows about VM on Androd. Hliaire -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-2-0-and-Android-tp4698239p4700323.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-users] Change the Package-Chooser-Dialog when using "Move to package..."?

2013-07-23 Thread Benjamin
+ 1 000 000 Ben On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > + 1 > > ;) > > Stef > > On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:02 PM, MartinW wrote: > >> Hi, >> i always find the Package-Chooser-Dialog (See Screenshot) when using "Move >> to package..." (e.g. from Nautilus) very strange to use. >>

[Pharo-users] [ann] snapshotcello

2013-07-23 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Stef and I developed Snapshotcello, a little utility that enables you to freeze a snapshot of a given configuration based on what is already loaded in your current image. The idea is simple. You develop against the latest versions of all packages, and commit your changes for each package.

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] [ann] snapshotcello

2013-07-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Nice to see SnapshotCello coming to live. May be it should be integrated to Metacello. Because everybody may need this cool feature. Stef On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Stef and I developed Snapshotcello, a little utility that enables you to > freeze a snapshot of

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello

2013-07-23 Thread Dale K. Henrichs
Stef, I haven't completely wrapped my brain around what SnapshotCello does so I don't have an informed opinion ... the fact that you found a need to invent SnapshotCello does speak volumes to the fact that there is a need that is going unmet:). However, I don't like the fact that you end up se

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello

2013-07-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Dale K. Henrichs wrote: > Stef, > > I haven't completely wrapped my brain around what SnapshotCello does so I > don't have an informed opinion ... the fact that you found a need to invent > SnapshotCello does speak volumes to the fact that there is a need that i