[Pharo-users] [ANN] I stop maintaining the Ubuntu packages

2014-09-24 Thread Damien Cassou
Dear all, I've recently switched my Linux distribution from Ubuntu to NixOS. This means I can no longer maintain the Ubuntu packages and their PPA (https://launchpad.net/~pharo/). These packages need a maintainer! The good side of it is that it is not a lot of work as I did all the automating in

[Pharo-users] Packaging Pharo for many distributions at once

2014-09-24 Thread Damien Cassou
Hi, I've packaged Pharo VM for the Nix package manager which can be installed on many Unix (e.g., Linux, MacOS X and FreeBSD). This works well but requires installing Nix on your Unix. Another solution is http://openbuildservice.org. Is any of you interested in trying to use this service to build

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] I stop maintaining the Ubuntu packages

2014-09-24 Thread Santiago Bragagnolo
woaaa pure functional linux??? whe should have a pure objects linux :D 2014-09-24 9:41 GMT+02:00 Damien Cassou : > Dear all, > > I've recently switched my Linux distribution from Ubuntu to NixOS. > This means I can no longer maintain the Ubuntu packages and their PPA > (https://launchpad.net/~pha

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] I stop maintaining the Ubuntu packages

2014-09-24 Thread Nicolai Hess
Count me in. I still have a ubuntu installation. Don't know what I have to do, but I'll try it. 2014-09-24 9:41 GMT+02:00 Damien Cassou : > Dear all, > > I've recently switched my Linux distribution from Ubuntu to NixOS. > This means I can no longer maintain the Ubuntu packages and their PPA > (h

Re: [Pharo-users] Packaging Pharo for many distributions at once

2014-09-24 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Damien, I would be interested in a zeroinstall [http://0install.net/] version :) A cool system because it is user-level (no need to go into system admin mode). Thierry 2014-09-24 9:48 GMT+02:00 Damien Cassou : > Hi, > > I've packaged Pharo VM for the Nix package manager which can be > insta

[Pharo-users] Mac VM - developer unidentified

2014-09-24 Thread Usman Bhatti
Hi, Today I downloaded Pharo vm from pharo.org. When I try to open the VM I get this security notification from Mac and it didn't happen with earlier versions of Pharo VM. I'm running: OS X 10.9.4 (13E28). [image: Inline image 1] I should be able to change my security settings to run it but I p

Re: [Pharo-users] Mac VM - developer unidentified

2014-09-24 Thread Mircea S.
Right click on the app and click Open. This time around it will bring up the same screen but with a second button that says Open. After you click that it will never ask again. Trimis de pe iPhone-ul meu Pe 24.09.2014, la 12:13, Usman Bhatti a scris: > Hi, > > Today I downloaded Pharo vm

Re: [Pharo-users] Mac VM - developer unidentified

2014-09-24 Thread Usman Bhatti
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Mircea S. wrote: > Right click on the app and click Open. > > This time around it will bring up the same screen but with a second button > that says Open. > > After you click that it will never ask again. > Tx for saving me the effort to google about it :) > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Packaging Pharo for many distributions at once

2014-09-24 Thread Christophe Demarey
Le 24 sept. 2014 à 11:00, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > Hi Damien, > > I would be interested in a zeroinstall [http://0install.net/] version :) A > cool system because it is user-level (no need to go into system admin mode). It looks interesting but requires the user to install 0install before

Re: [Pharo-users] Packaging Pharo for many distributions at once

2014-09-24 Thread Thierry Goubier
2014-09-24 11:35 GMT+02:00 Christophe Demarey : > > Le 24 sept. 2014 à 11:00, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > > Hi Damien, > > I would be interested in a zeroinstall [http://0install.net/] version :) > A cool system because it is user-level (no need to go into system admin > mode). > > > It looks int

[Pharo-users] Ring package, when to use it?

2014-09-24 Thread Juraj Kubelka
Hi! I am trying to understand in what scenarios is good to use Ring package instead of objects of compiled methods, classes and r-packages. It is not clear to me. For example if I want to ask for where a method/class/package is referenced should I consider the Ring package? When I should cons

[Pharo-users] Glorp + NBSQLite3

2014-09-24 Thread Pierce Ng
Hello, I am pleased to report that I have gotten Glorp working with NBSQLite3 enough to run Sven's Reddit.st. As mentioned in my blog post, there is more work to be done to get Glorp fully integrated with NBSQLite3, but preliminary results are encouraging. http://www.samadhiweb.com/blog/2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Glorp + NBSQLite3

2014-09-24 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
This is really cool! How does SQLite scale in terms of table size and so on? I was surprised to know it is based on an old version of PostgreSQL according to this presentation: http://www.pgcon.org/2014/schedule/events/736.en.html Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2014-09-24 13:17 GMT-03:00 Pierce

Re: [Pharo-users] Ring package, when to use it?

2014-09-24 Thread Juraj Kubelka
Thank you Marcus for the explanation. So now I understand that if I want to analyse existing packages/class/methods/etc in the image, Ring is not a kind of interest. But as I think about it, if someone uses Ring as a base to analyse environment, then it could be useful to use the same analysi

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-24 Thread Benjamin Pollack
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 08:51:54 -0400, Hilaire wrote: Le 23/09/2014 14:09, Damien Cassou a écrit : I recently read documents about utf-8 encoding. In all of them, the author says that pathnames should be kept as is because you never know which encoding the filesystem uses. So, a filename should p

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-24 Thread Benjamin Pollack
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:58:41 -0400, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: I also find the way some problems are reported quite disturbing. How much testing did you do ? On which platforms ? I can do this (in Pharo 3) without any problems (we're talking about arbitrary Unicode characters in path n

Re: [Pharo-users] Mac VM - developer unidentified

2014-09-24 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Usman Bhatti wrote: > for less knowledgable it can be a negative message. yes I agree. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Re: [Pharo-users] Ring package, when to use it?

2014-09-24 Thread Marcus Denker
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Juraj Kubelka wrote: > Hi! > > I am trying to understand in what scenarios is good to use Ring package > instead of objects of compiled methods, classes and r-packages. It is not > clear to me. > > For example if I want to ask for where a method/class/package is >

Re: [Pharo-users] Packaging Pharo for many distributions at once

2014-09-24 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Thierry Goubier wrote: > All non-native package managers have that issue. nix included -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] I stop maintaining the Ubuntu packages

2014-09-24 Thread volk...@nivoba.de
Sad news. I switched from OSX to Ubuntu and i also plan to switch from Win8 to Ubuntu. I really hope "Pharo" will find a new maintainer for the most popular Linux Distribution. Thank you for your work ... BW, Volkert Am 24.09.2014 um 09:41 schrieb Damien Cassou: Dear all, I've recently sw

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 24 Sep 2014, at 18:48, Benjamin Pollack wrote: > On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 08:51:54 -0400, Hilaire wrote: > >> Le 23/09/2014 14:09, Damien Cassou a écrit : >>> I recently read documents about utf-8 encoding. In all of them, the >>> author says that pathnames should be kept as is because you never

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-24 Thread Benjamin Pollack
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:03:57 -0400, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Did you read the actual conversation in the issue ? https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14054/Issue-with-path-with-accented-characters It has been renamed and there is a fix (as a change set, not as a slice, yet). Basically

Re: [Pharo-users] Ring package, when to use it?

2014-09-24 Thread Marcus Denker
On 24 Sep 2014, at 18:35, Juraj Kubelka wrote: > Thank you Marcus for the explanation. > > So now I understand that if I want to analyse existing > packages/class/methods/etc in the image, Ring is not a kind of interest. > > But as I think about it, if someone uses Ring as a base to analyse

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 24 Sep 2014, at 19:09, Benjamin Pollack wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:03:57 -0400, Sven Van Caekenberghe > wrote: > >> >> Did you read the actual conversation in the issue ? >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14054/Issue-with-path-with-accented-characters >> >> It has been rename

[Pharo-users] Update of AgileVisualization.com

2014-09-24 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Dear All, AgileVisualization.com , the book about Roassal, has been updated with a new chapter. The HTML versions of the chapter are also online. Agile Visualization is written using Pillar and Skeleton. Thanks Damien Cassou and Yuriy Tymchuk (Uko) for these wonderful frameworks. I am also l

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-24 Thread Alain Rastoul
Le 24/09/2014 19:09, Benjamin Pollack a écrit : If Pharo used > ByteArrays to represent paths, with convenience methods for working with UTF-8 (since I do agree that's the most likely thing for a user/dev to want), then you'd be able to work with all files no matter what, *and* have a conveni

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Alain, On 24 Sep 2014, at 23:00, Alain Rastoul wrote: > Le 24/09/2014 19:09, Benjamin Pollack a écrit : > >> If Pharo used > ByteArrays to represent paths, with convenience methods for >> working with >> UTF-8 (since I do agree that's the most likely thing for a user/dev to >> want), then you'

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-24 Thread Alain Rastoul
Le 25/09/2014 00:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : Alain, The character encoding situation in Pharo is pretty good actually. The only problem is that there is some old school code left that encodes strings into strings, but today you can easily write much better and conceptually correct c

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 25 Sep 2014, at 01:04, Alain Rastoul wrote: > Le 25/09/2014 00:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : >> Alain, > >> The character encoding situation in Pharo is pretty good actually. The only >> problem is that there is some old school code left that encodes strings into >> strings, but toda