Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Dimitris Chloupis's message of 2015-12-07 08:24:13 +0100: > > well, i wouldn't need or even want it in memory, so on disk is fine. the > > problem is more likely management of the same. browsing the changes is not > > really convenient. > There are versions already for methods. So th

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
"A Smalltalk Image is your entire system. The Image includes all the tools required to interact, customize and add functionality to your system, so Smalltalk’s IDE is a very Integrated Development Environment." Thats not the case even for someone like me that has been working with smalltalk for o

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 07/12/2015 07:13, Martin Bähr a écrit : Excerpts from Thierry Goubier's message of 2015-12-07 06:42:51 +0100: i am interested in the versioning of code and objects. the poster makes a good point there. The traditional, full approach, would have been to use an object oriented database like Ge

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
> > well, i wouldn't need or even want it in memory, so on disk is fine. the > problem is more likely management of the same. browsing the changes is not > really convenient. ideally i'd like to see versions in the class-browser > and > in the debugger, where on error i could then take a look at o

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Sounds a lot like good-old envy, which basically is an always-connected object db for versioned code artefacts - from Methods, to Classes, Applications to Configuration Maps. I always miss it immediately when I work in other languages or Smalltalk dialects. The only thing that comes close to it

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Thierry Goubier's message of 2015-12-07 06:42:51 +0100: > > i am interested in the versioning of code and objects. > > the poster makes a good point there. > The traditional, full approach, would have been to use an object > oriented database like GemStone. Anything that can version

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 07/12/2015 02:50, Martin Bähr a écrit : Excerpts from Sven Van Caekenberghe's message of 2015-12-06 19:39:51 +0100: There are a lot of questions in there, too much to answer. i am interested in the versioning of code and objects. the poster makes a good point there. The traditional, full

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Sven Van Caekenberghe's message of 2015-12-06 19:39:51 +0100: > There are a lot of questions in there, too much to answer. i am interested in the versioning of code and objects. the poster makes a good point there. what if i am on a non-networked machine, running pharoNOS or even sq

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread horrido
And for the record, a number of long-time Smalltalkers have expressed their appreciation for the work I've done. One of them (a 25-year Smalltalk veteran!!!) said to me: "You may think the job was thankless, but I think you did a great job." I really, truly appreciate his accolade. Hey, I get it.

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread horrido
I didn't say I cannot answer the questions; I said I may not answer them /optimally/. After all, *I haven't used Smalltalk in a long while*, and I was never an expert to begin with. I'm certainly not up with the latest developments in Pharo. (For example, I didn't know that Pharo no longer has file

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread horrido
"An image is essentially a self-contained operating system that manages all the code for you, thanks to an easy-to-use IDE." I'm not trying to be pedantic. I'm using general parlance to convey an idea, and the idea is essentially correct. And I'm hardly alone. GemTalk's own "Pharo, the collaborAct

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
" *Files belong in the Stone Age"* *No they do not !* "Smalltalk is an *image-based* programming language." An image IS a file !!! "An image is essentially a self-contained operating system that manages all the code for you, thanks to *an easy-to-use IDE"* *no its not!!! the vm is the virtu

Re: [Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
There are a lot of questions in there, too much to answer. The basic answer is that everything is modelled as objects, even the objects themselves. There is a complete meta model of what could be considered code and even the execution of code. Furthermore, even versioning is modelled nicely too

[Pharo-users] Stop Thinking in Terms of Files

2015-12-06 Thread horrido
I submitted an article at Reddit called "Stop Thinking in Terms of Files." Some guy with the handle "audioen" wrote the following comment: We have heard that smalltalk appears to use model similar to a LISP machine of yore in that the programming environment = the OS = the runtime environment. Onc

Re: [Pharo-users] OrderedSet?

2015-12-06 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Have a look at: http://www.mail-archive.com/help-smalltalk@gnu.org/msg01225.html http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoTaskForces.html http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Moose/CollectionExtensions Hernán 2015-12-05 23:21 GMT-03:00 Peter Uhnak : > Hi, > > what would be the equivalent of an OrderedSet?

Re: [Pharo-users] where is save export setting file

2015-12-06 Thread Peter Uhnak
On 12/06, Hilaire wrote: > Hello > > Where export setting save the prefrence in the host file system, on Linux. Linux config is normally in '~/.config/pharo/' > > I am stuck with it and need to delete it > > Thanks > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > http://google.com/+DrgeoEu

Re: [Pharo-users] where is save export setting file

2015-12-06 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-12-06 16:22 GMT+01:00 Hilaire : > Hello > > Where export setting save the prefrence in the host file system, on Linux. > > I am stuck with it and need to delete it > > which version? in pharo 5.0 latest: ~/.config/pharo/5.0/system-settings.ston Thanks > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo > http:

[Pharo-users] where is save export setting file

2015-12-06 Thread Hilaire
Hello Where export setting save the prefrence in the host file system, on Linux. I am stuck with it and need to delete it Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu http://google.com/+DrgeoEu

Re: [Pharo-users] About GTSpotter matching

2015-12-06 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Currently wildcard are not supported. I think this is in the roadmap of the GT team. But not supported for now. However, there is strictly no need for it. Since you have the dive-in category: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/MyPapers/Kube15a-VISSOFTNIER-SpotterAnalyzer.pdf Cheers, Al