[Pharo-users] Roassal2 breaks Pharo 7

2017-11-20 Thread Alistair Grant
Hi Everyone, Loading Roassal 2 in Pharo 7 with: Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile' project: 'Roassal2'; configurationOf: 'Roassal2'; loadStable. makes the image unusable due to changes in NewValueHolder. Roassal adds: NewValueHolder>>announcer ^ announcer which is

Re: [Pharo-users] Bloc installation on Linux [WAS: Re: About implementing a "Mini Pillar" in-image renderer for Pharo ...]

2017-11-20 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
On 20/11/17 20:48, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: > Hi Offray, > > In a first email I sent a wrong installation script of Sparta but then > I sent an email with correct one... looks like it was missed. > Anyway, I updated a baseline of bloc to install Moz2D on 64bit linux. > Seems that Moz2D is

Re: [Pharo-users] Timespan translateToUTC problematic (Alistair Grant)

2017-11-20 Thread Richard A. O'Keefe
From: Alistair Grant I think that there's still use for representing a date as a timespan, i.e. a 24 hour period that we can use to find the intersection of times, etc (in addition to adding a timezone offset to a DateTime to figure out the date in a different

Re: [Pharo-users] Bloc installation on Linux [WAS: Re: About implementing a "Mini Pillar" in-image renderer for Pharo ...]

2017-11-20 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
Oops, the wrong script. Here is the right one: Metacello new baseline: 'Sparta'; repository: 'github://syrel/sparta/src'; load: #development Cheers, Alex On 21 November 2017 at 01:26, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: > Hi Offray, > > === > > This package depends on the

Re: [Pharo-users] Bloc installation on Linux [WAS: Re: About implementing a "Mini Pillar" in-image renderer for Pharo ...]

2017-11-20 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
Hi Offray, === This package depends on the following classes: > BrTextEditorPieceElement > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load > these definitions: > BrTextEditorPieceElement>>#drawOnSpartaCanvas: === We should also create a stable baseline of Brick... I

Re: [Pharo-users] Bloc installation on Linux [WAS: Re: About implementing a "Mini Pillar" in-image renderer for Pharo ...]

2017-11-20 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi Doru & Alex, Installation works now. During installation process I get this message: === This package depends on the following classes:   BrTextEditorPieceElement You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions:  

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

2017-11-20 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
That would be nice. So the issue is how we can find the proper size of the community learning/doing together. On 20/11/17 12:10, horrido wrote: > Well, I don't think we have to worry about Pharo becoming too big. > > I never expected Smalltalk to ever become big (again). I just want to see it >

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

2017-11-20 Thread horrido
Well, I don't think we have to worry about Pharo becoming too big. I never expected Smalltalk to ever become big (again). I just want to see it lifted out of obscurity. If people talk about Pharo in the same breath as Clojure, Elixir, Haskell, and Rust, that would be great. Offray Vladimir

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

2017-11-20 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Agreed. This obsession with popularity in North America is kind of sad when is looked from elsewhere and is really pervasive: from teenagers comedies to technologies and business. Any community needs "proper size" to keep momentum and agility. Too big, it become bureaucratic or stagnant. Too

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

2017-11-20 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Richard, I don't mean to be harsh, but I'm amused that you think that everyone misunderstand you, and you have nothing to learn from the community that is using and developing the technologies you're promoting. As said in my previous email about this thread, what is the point of having a

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

2017-11-20 Thread Andrew Glynn
The amount of FUD spread by M$ and IBM, just two very noticeable examples out of numerous others, is possible because very few of those laws are applicable unless the statement is part of a paid campaign by the originating company. If I exaggerate how well my MB 400E was made on a blog post,

Re: [Pharo-users] New Pharo article at The Cohort

2017-11-20 Thread horrido
Fortunately, I'm not selling a product, good or service. I'm selling an idea. The idea that you should use Pharo for software development. This isn't about commerce or trade, and thus there can be no basis for litigation. I'm rather amused that everyone has missed the fundamental point, which I

Re: [Pharo-users] Timespan translateToUTC problematic

2017-11-20 Thread Pavel Krivanek
In any case, we have an issue because the behavior of the Date and Month is different -- Pavel 2017-11-20 9:16 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > > > On 20 Nov 2017, at 07:58, Alistair Grant wrote: > > > > On 18 November 2017 at 18:38, Sven Van

Re: [Pharo-users] Timespan translateToUTC problematic

2017-11-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 20 Nov 2017, at 07:58, Alistair Grant wrote: > > On 18 November 2017 at 18:38, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >> >>> On 18 Nov 2017, at 17:46, Alistair Grant wrote: >>> >>> On 17 November 2017 at 14:44, Sven Van