[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-14 Thread kmo
The bug does not appear to be because I'm using an old version of Gtk. if I type dpkg -l libgtk2.0-0 libgtk-3-0 I get : +++-=---===> ii libgtk-3-0:amd64 3.24.20-0ubuntu1 amd64GTK graphical user interfac> ii

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-14 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 12 Dec 2020, at 17:08, Santiago Bragagnolo > wrote: > > It is a bug when you have a lot of budget. Luckily we have the monthly > sprints :). > Participants are always more than welcome. You can join and participate to > fix these things the last friday of each month! > I can sit

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-14 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Esteban is trying to understand why he cannot register to this mailing-list and he asked me to past the following so I do it. "first, as Stef says we cannot do magic and SpecGtk relies on Gtk3. More specific, it relies in a specific version of Gtk3, in this case you need Gtk 3.24 or newer.

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-12 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
tx offray Lua is an inspiration from that perspective. Now we play the game because publishing is also a nice way to understand what we are doing and because this is important to play the game else we would be considered as losers. S. > On 12 Dec 2020, at 19:20, Offray Vladimir Luna

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-12 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, Just to add a little bit to Tim's remark, I'm pretty happy that Pharo academicians, starting with Stéphane, value more making a real difference in the world, via delivering working and improving software, that talking about the theoretical possible changes when paper's "conclusions further

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-12 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> On 12 Dec 2020, at 17:08, Santiago Bragagnolo > wrote: > > It is a bug when you have a lot of budget. Luckily we have the monthly > sprints :). > Participants are always more than welcome. You can join and participate to > fix these things the last friday of each month! > I can sit with

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-12 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> On 12 Dec 2020, at 11:05, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > > Just to chip in here - the work demonstrated on Pharo development is > inspirational. Rather than throwing everything away, it shows the alternative > - incrementally improving a running platform - and practicing what we preach > in

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-12 Thread Santiago Bragagnolo
It is a bug when you have a lot of budget. Luckily we have the monthly sprints :). Participants are always more than welcome. You can join and participate to fix these things the last friday of each month! I can sit with you and pair program. I am not sure if this month we have sprint, since it is

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-12 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Just to chip in here - the work demonstrated on Pharo development is inspirational. Rather than throwing everything away, it shows the alternative - incrementally improving a running platform - and practicing what we preach in industry by refactoring a large elderly code base bit by bit - it's

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
It depends how old. We cannot do magic. In particular, if more people would help fixing simple things in Pharo we would then have the time for more boring and challenging issues. Because in my personal case, I’m not paid to develop and lead Pharo dev. My own carrer and CV do not depend on

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-11 Thread kmo
But if it doesn't work on older machines (if that is the case) then that's still a bug, isn't it? -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> On 11 Dec 2020, at 09:01, yvan Godin wrote: > > Hello > May be you shouldn't spend time on that because I have successfully tested > Gtk-bind on a more recent laptop /(Intel© Core™ i7 16GoRam versus Pentium > 4Go )/ with same Ubuntu 19 > sorry for inconvenience and thanks everybody Yvan

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-11 Thread yvan Godin
Hello May be you shouldn't spend time on that because I have successfully tested Gtk-bind on a more recent laptop /(Intel© Core™ i7 16GoRam versus Pentium 4Go )/ with same Ubuntu 19 sorry for inconvenience and thanks everybody -- Sent from:

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-10 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> On 10 Dec 2020, at 14:34, yvan Godin wrote: > > hello > > I have re installed an strictly follow everything as described in gtk-bind > / (I don't care of Mars but > interested by Spec2 and/or Gtk)/ > > the run of demo hard crash as

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-10 Thread yvan Godin
hello I have re installed an strictly follow everything as described in gtk-bind / (I don't care of Mars but interested by Spec2 and/or Gtk)/ the run of demo hard crash as previously I have tried to upload the file here but no sure to well

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-10 Thread kmo
The Mars project page says use this image and vm: curl https://get.pharo.org/64/90+vmHeadlessLatest | bash To upload the crash.dmp file to the issue log you need to rename it to crash.txt first. Good luck. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-09 Thread yvan . godin
first of all thanks for all answers I will re instal a full fresh Pharo9 a test again but 2 questions prefered VM to use ? Stable Lastest Threaded ? How to send big file crash ? cheers NB I am retired coder with some middle level with gtk on other language but difficult to me to change

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks for the information. S > On 9 Dec 2020, at 18:20, G B via Pharo-users > wrote: > > I am using OpenSUSE Leap and the above code for "Hello" using GTK-binding > works for me. > > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 8:30:29 AM CST, yvan Godin > wrote: > > > in reality posted my answer

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-09 Thread G B via Pharo-users
I am using OpenSUSE Leap and the above code for "Hello" using GTK-binding works for me. On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 8:30:29 AM CST, yvan Godin wrote: in reality posted my answer on a wrong list probably    totally new to Pharo and Smaltalk I wanted just try so this is not

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-09 Thread Guillermo Polito
Hi Ivan, just to complement Esteban. When there is a process crash, it usually writes a crash dump file in the working directory. Could you share yours? The crash dump file will have information about the stack and state at the moment of the crash. It will also be useful to know what linux

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Here is the answer of esteban Hi, For some reason, it looks like I am no longer part of that list (how weird is that?), and I cannot re-subscribe me either (I asked Marcus to see what happens). Anyway, can you be be more explicit, because I just tested in an Ubuntu 20.04 and it works fine

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-09 Thread yvan Godin
in reality posted my answer on a wrong list probably totally new to Pharo and Smaltalk I wanted just try so this is not important I wanted to test Gtk-binding. because I am interested by Gtk but not for specific project so no problem I

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> Mars will work on Ubuntu and its derivatives when Hell freezes over. I don't > think anyone even looks a the Issues log. We are in crush mode. > Sound has never worked on Linux. You used to be able to get it to work by > copying files from a Squeak installation, but that's in the past now

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-08 Thread Yvan Godin
Thanks for your answer Le mar. 8 déc. 2020 à 14:58, kmo a écrit : > Mars will work on Ubuntu and its derivatives when Hell freezes over. I > don't > think anyone even looks a the Issues log. > > Sound has never worked on Linux. You used to be able to get it to work by > copying files from a

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-08 Thread kmo
Mars will work on Ubuntu and its derivatives when Hell freezes over. I don't think anyone even looks a the Issues log. Sound has never worked on Linux. You used to be able to get it to work by copying files from a Squeak installation, but that's in the past now as far as I know. There's an

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-12-08 Thread yvan . godin
same for me on Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon worse on my Linux sound dosen’t work

[Pharo-users] Re: Pharo Mars still not working on Ubuntu

2020-11-06 Thread kmo
Mars now loads on Ubuntu but crashes with illegal instruction when you attempt to use it. Back to where we were in late July. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html