Re: [Pharo-users] Tools for easy subtext extraction from text

Guille I think that we should also have a look at Xtreams and see if there is not a core inside. What I think that is that current stream implementation is quite terrible. Stef

Re: [Pharo-users] Tools for easy subtext extraction from text

BTW we were discussing about deprecating Regexp and using a RePlugin to bind to a default mainstream regexp expressions lib so that people can use the same expressions that they are used to in Pharo. Any ideas? If this is important for you, you can help making it true.

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Stef, we need to think about it carefullly. Streams are used in the kernel for many tasks. Replacing them by a big framework will be a huge drawback for bootstrapping purposes. Alternatively, we could think of refactoring the kernel to not use streams, but so far this is not possible...

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On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2017-01-22 11:54 GMT+01:00 Guillermo Polito : > >> Stef, we need to think about it carefullly. Streams are used in the >> kernel for many tasks. Replacing them by a big framework will be

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2017-01-22 11:54 GMT+01:00 Guillermo Polito : > Stef, we need to think about it carefullly. Streams are used in the kernel > for many tasks. Replacing them by a big framework will be a huge drawback > for bootstrapping purposes. > I would not say that Xtreams is bigger

Re: [Pharo-users] Tools for easy subtext extraction from text

Stef, we need to think about it carefullly. Streams are used in the kernel for many tasks. Replacing them by a big framework will be a huge drawback for bootstrapping purposes. Alternatively, we could think of refactoring the kernel to not use streams, but so far this is not possible... the

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> Check some Perl code from a few years ago and come back with terseness and > readability arguments. Yeah, sure. I've been using Perl years ago. ;) When you are using it actively its very compact syntax is very cool once it becomes habitual; but of course Perl is write-only language. But we

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Reability: the more you read a language, the more you can read it. And saying Python is super readable can have a look at how BSON is dealt with in the MongoDB driver. https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-python-driver/tree/master/bson Now go check the same in MongoTalk. Where you can actually

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Dtto as above. Readability was never a question. And if it was, then you > just doubled the regex complexity, and made the code more confusing by > turning the problem upside down, due to the limited API. Complaining about the compact syntax makes as much sense as complaining > that `1+2` is too

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Yes I should finish to convert everything. I hope that in Pharo 70 we will be able add Xtream like library and remove the old stream but this is large task. stef On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:06:34 +0100, p...@highoctane.be wrote: There is also this

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There is also this https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoLimbo/tree/master/Xtreams On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Peter Uhnak wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 02:01:59PM +0100, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > Hi. > > > > 2017-01-20 16:15 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnak

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Actually the things I snatched are from there. Phil On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Peter Uhnak wrote: > On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 07:09:19PM +0100, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2017-01-21 17:09 GMT+01:00 p...@highoctane.be : > > > > > I collected some

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On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 07:09:19PM +0100, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > 2017-01-21 17:09 GMT+01:00 p...@highoctane.be : > > > I collected some content about that and wanted to do something about it > > but, yeah, it got on the backburner. > > > > This is currently just the extract

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2017-01-21 17:09 GMT+01:00 p...@highoctane.be : > I collected some content about that and wanted to do something about it > but, yeah, it got on the backburner. > > This is currently just the extract of the package comment or something > like that. > >

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I use PetitParser for this purpose. It provides: - an incremental way to build a parser especially when you use its bounded sea abilities, - a way to debug problems, and - a reasonably readable outcome that can be extended to a more complicated parser. For example, in your case, you can use:

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I collected some content about that and wanted to do something about it but, yeah, it got on the backburner. This is currently just the extract of the package comment or something like that. https://github.com/philippeback/xstreamsdoc Phil On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Peter Uhnak

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On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 02:01:59PM +0100, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hi. > > 2017-01-20 16:15 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnak : > > > In Ruby it is dead simple: > > str[/\[(.*)\]/,1].hex # "=> 37" > > > > I always wondering when people think it is dead simple. > I use streams for such

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Nice one. str:= --> text := On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > >> In Ruby it is dead simple: >> str[/\[(.*)\]/,1].hex # "=> 37" , or .to_i(16) >> > > and dead unreadable > > Pharo way is both dead simple and dead readable > > str:= '

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Hi. 2017-01-20 16:15 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnak : > In Ruby it is dead simple: > str[/\[(.*)\]/,1].hex # "=> 37" > I always wondering when people think it is dead simple. I use streams for such cases. It is logical, readable and dead simple approach without crappy syntax. And with

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Uhnak Sendt: 20 January 2017 16:16 Til: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Emne: [Pharo-users] Tools for easy subtext extraction from text Hi, what are the tools available from easier text extraction? The input is unstructured text, but I want to extract portion from it. I am not looking for a

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> > > In Ruby it is dead simple: > str[/\[(.*)\]/,1].hex # "=> 37" , or .to_i(16) > and dead unreadable Pharo way is both dead simple and dead readable str:= ' Temperature 0 37C (98F) [0x25] (TMPIN0)'. ('16r',(text copyWithRegex: '(.*\[0x)|(\].*)' matchesReplacedWith: ''))

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ot;37" Best regards, Henrik -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] På vegne av Peter Uhnak Sendt: 20 January 2017 16:16 Til: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Emne: [Pharo-users] Tools for easy subtext extraction from text

[Pharo-users] Tools for easy subtext extraction from text

Hi, what are the tools available from easier text extraction? The input is unstructured text, but I want to extract portion from it. I am not looking for an engineered approach (writing a parser or something), but something that can be done quickly by hand (i.e. interactively). For example I