I re-looked at my standard with the changed ID tag. It now appears that
the letter which looked like an "E"on further inspection is actually an "F".
The machine has a small top-mount reproducer ring. This fits with the 2/4
gearing and cygnet horn. One wonders if original buyers were ever
Actually, I have an Edison Standard on which the ID tag was originally
marked "D" and the "D" was crossed out and the tag marked "E". It is a 2/4
minute machine. The Edison factory was apparently notorious for using up old
stock in this way.
Art Heller
In a message dated 4/13/2017 8:29:
That actually is an ornament which appeared on top of a Victor metal needle
sales box which would have been placed on a store counter. They have
often been removed from the boxes and mistaken for or used as hood ornaments.
It's a great little item but with the box would be even more intere
Hi Steve,
My highest number is 52583, Jack Dalton and the 7 Blue Babies, R She's a
Good Girl, and L The Whoopee Hat Brigade.
Pretty corny but fun stuff in any case. I was really stoked when I found
these. Pretty late stuff.
---Art
In a message dated 6/15/2013 12:23:20 P.M. Mountain Daylig
OK Mike,
Now I am confused. What did you mean when you said "27 makes no sense"?
I thought Edison electrical recording did start in 1927.
--Art
In a message dated 6/15/2013 10:41:49 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
smst...@gmail.com writes:
Art,
It is from Raymond Wile's Edison Disc recor
Thanks Steve,
I think I'm only going to concern myself with the 52000 series for now.
I've never seen any electrical recordings in the other series.
---Art Heller
In a message dated 6/15/2013 10:11:48 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
steve_nor...@msn.com writes:
Finnish: 59305-59306
Spanish/
Thanks Mike,
But wasn't that actually recorded in Sept. and Oct. 1927? I'm going by
"Edison Diamond Disc Re-Creations, 1910-1929" The "coupling supplement
date"(whatever that means) is Sept for R and Oct for L. . Then there is a
"cut
out date" of Oct 1929. I guess that is when it was cu
I have recently bought a bunch of Edison DDs of the 52000 series. The
original owner just died and these were in his estate sale. The are
absolutely pristine and sound great. I know that Edison started electrically
recording these somewhere about July 1927, But can someone give me the nu
Andy,
If the first auction were to have been staged by shill bidders, and the
item sold, would they not have to pay a hefty fee to eBay for the sale at
that lofty amount?
--Art Heller
In a message dated 2/24/2013 12:27:40 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
a...@popyrus.com writes:
And why wou
Oh--you saw that it was the same seller. It's got to be the same machine.
In a message dated 2/24/2013 10:51:59 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
msprin...@gmail.com writes:
For an example of what happens when two naïve bidders just have to have
something, see the bidding on eBay #11101367887
Merle,
Have you noticed that the one sold and the one for sale for $350 are the
same machine? Same seller. Mumbai, India. Very fishy.
--Art Heller
In a message dated 2/24/2013 10:51:59 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
msprin...@gmail.com writes:
For an example of what happens when two naïve
John,
Since it's an offering from Japan it's offered in Yen, not Yuan. So $326
should be correct. There is also a language translator on the site. I
think the guy indicates that he made it himself. Nice job--but I think it's
overkill.
--Art Heller
In a message dated 2/18/2013 3:39:52
I agree with you. First of all--there was not enough of Charlie Hummel's
collection at all. And second of all--his collection should never have been
combined with the creepy collections of weird people and announced by a
ghoul. I wonder if he knew that the "science" channel was going to
I know an ENT doctor who would certainly pay through the nose for that!
Art Heller
In a message dated 12/27/2012 9:20:24 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
john9...@pacbell.net writes:
I have one of Al Jolson's nose hairs. I will reluctantly part with it for
only $900.00. :-)John Robles
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Am I the only one who thinks that it is likely that some dealer decided to
put an "Al Jolson" tag on this machine and sell it as an Al Jolson Model
in the 1930s? If so, maybe there are more of them.
---Art Heller
In a message dated 12/26/2012 8:12:17 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
vinyl.v
Is Mirek Stehlik not working any longer? He restored a Zonophone
reproducer for me a while back.
--Art Heller
In a message dated 12/1/2012 5:21:19 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
victr...@triton.net writes:
Yes I bought out most his remaining stock. I did not get any of those
Berliner rep
Thanks guys,
Art Heller
In a message dated 10/22/2012 5:08:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
steve_nor...@msn.com writes:
Hello Ron L, Your memory is correct and evidently long terms as well.
Here is what Allen K wrote 7/27/2005: Hi
Toward the end of Lambert production, the company sold
An interesting Lambert cylinder appeared on ebay recently. But I have
never seen this before. A Lambert cylinder with a plaster core. Was this
added by the factory or was it perhaps done after sale? I thought the Lambert
cylinders were made without plaster cores to avoid antitrust confli
Thanks Aaron,
That's exactly what it is. I figured it was not a phono horn.
--Art
In a message dated 7/22/2012 1:49:23 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
ahunte...@comcast.net writes:
Art
It looks identical to a horn from an automobile musical horn made by
Sparton. Mine is called a Chime Bugl
Thanks, I should have figured that out. But I've never seen a black and
brass auto horn before. And that gives me a great idea. I can put a screen
on each of my horns and prevent the inevitable entrance of moths and other
critters into my reproducers!
--Art Heller
In a message dat
An interesting horn has appeared on ebay recently. But I've never seen
anything like it before. It has a screen at the horn opening and I have no
idea why. Maybe it keeps the moths out. Or maybe it's not a phonograph horn at
all. Any thoughts?
Ebay # is 280921924514
Thanks, Art Heller
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I keep looking for it. Has Loran gone out of the business?
--Art
In a message dated 6/2/2012 7:41:01 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
lhera...@verizon.net writes:
Gad, another week without the chat. I'm sooo bummed.
Ron L
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Believe it or not.. When I was living in Guam, the local Ace Hardware carried
piano string wire that I could use for restringing pianos! And our local Ace
in Denver used to carry all kinds of wierd stuff. Now that they have been
acquired by the corporate office, the selection is no better tha
I KNOW it's a scam. But doesn't the scammer seller still owe eBay the
commission? Or is eBay just too dumb to figure it out?
--Art Heller
-Original Message-
From: Vinyl Visions
To: phono-l
Sent: Sun, Mar 4, 2012 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??
t's a scam...
> From
So the "high bidder" just crapped out on him. I thought that the eBay bid
was a contract that had to be honored. So much for the eBay contract.
Unless he himself put in the high bid??? If so he owes eBay the commission.
What am I missing here?
---Art Heller
In a message dated 3/4/2012
Thanks Allan,
That resource gets better and better if one knows where to look.
--Art
In a message dated 2/1/2012 11:21:52 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
allena...@aol.com writes:
Hi Art,
The book, 'ECR, 1889-1912' contains a variety of detailed material
pertaining to Edison (US) record pr
So Allen,
How do I tell which cylinders are Wangemann's in the ECR? Or are all the
early cylinders his production?
--Art Heller
In a message dated 1/31/2012 11:14:40 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
allena...@aol.com writes:
Seriously though, a great article in the NYT! Interested collector
Shawn,
I've been waiting and waiting for the Bolden movie. Is it ever going to
be put out, or has it just been put on a shelf?
A friend has claimed to have acquired an original Billy Bolden record.
Could that be? I actually thought no recordings of Billy Bolden existed.
---Art Heller
In
I have seen one of these at Guido Severijns' house in Holland. He had just
acquired a collection from Germany and had some very wonderful items. I'd
love to have bought it but first of all I am not sure I could have afforded
it, and it was a giant thing and wouldn't fit in my luggage!
---Art
Do you have to change the needle to play a 45?
Art
In a message dated 9/15/11 11:38:13 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
harveykrav...@yahoo.com writes:
It's cheaper than a Victor VI, LOL!!
Harvey Kravitz
From: Andrew Baron
To: Antique Phonograph List
Sen
I want to know why the nipper on the floor is looking so forelorn. He
seems to be staring at her stiletto heels.
--Art H
In a message dated 9/14/11 7:27:35 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
kb...@charter.net writes:
You could play a record with her stiletto heel!
Ken B.
-Original Me
HI Mark,
It's good to hear of all those wonderful machines in New Zealand. And the
earthquake obviously was devastating to collections in Christchurch. I wish
I had known of the collectors in Christchurch and Dunedin when I was there
a few years ago.
But I did manage to hook up with Rod Corn
In a message dated 5/19/11 7:41:21 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
vinyl.visi...@live.com writes:
This is a pretty awesome external horn Amberola 30 if anyone has a grand
floating around for that type of greatness.
Awesome? I don't think so. And I know you were kidding.
--Art Heller
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Check out the great article in the Denver Post this past weekend
_http://www.denverpost.com/lifestyles/ci_18060044_
(http://www.denverpost.com/lifestyles/ci_18060044)
---Art Heller
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In a message dated 4/10/11 6:06:47 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
vinyl.visi...@live.com writes:
By the way, what is "toll painting"?
In the 50's-60's - "toll painting" took a "toll" on your health, because
paint contained lead. :)
OK. Since I knew that you made that bit of information up
In a message dated 4/10/11 6:06:47 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
vinyl.visi...@live.com writes:
By the way, what is "toll painting"?
In the 50's-60's - "toll painting" took a "toll" on your health, because
paint contained lead. :)
OK. Since I knew you made up that bit of information I we
In a message dated 4/10/11 4:33:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
deedeebl...@yahoo.com writes:
I can't help myself... My mother-in-law did toll painting back in the
sixties
and seventies and it looks exactly like the Gem. If anyone likes, I could
show
her the photos for her opinion. It
In a message dated 3/17/11 12:19:55 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
phonol...@mac.com writes:
A lot of different dealer aids were made by various companies, and Victor
would typically offer them to the dealers at cost. There was a Nipper and
Gramophone combination on a base that was offered
Please look at Ebay #250786488092.
Is this just a cobbled mess or could Victor have actually made this thing?
Looks homemade to me.
---Art Heller
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You guys are behind the times. You need to check out the site
scienceandsons.com.
I found this site in the latest issue of Bloomberg BusinessWeek and you
need to look at the "Phonophone" and other modern gadgets. I know that
modern gadgets do not interest many of us but maybe the introducti
(How come no one talks about how great the new cars are?!)
Because new cars have no place on an antique phonograph site---old cars
do!!
My MG-B which I bought in London in 1965 was a blast to drive and I could
tune the thing. Then I drove it across the U.S. while it was still new and
Hi John,
I would love the Taft cylinder at your price.
Let me know.
Art Heller aph4...@aol.com
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Thanks Trygve,
I did get your first message and will be sure to look up that phono museum
in Prague.
Best---Art
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Thanks Jerry,
Bruce has already contacted me,
---Art Heller
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In a message dated 12/2/10 8:23:04 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
vinyl.visi...@live.com writes:
You might want to contact Charley Hummell, since he regularly attends
phonograph shows in Europe
Thanks Curt,
That's a great idea. I'll do it.
---Art
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Just thought I'd ask if anyone had any phono contacts in Prague or the
Czech Republic. We're planning a trip there this spring and I always like to
look up interested phono people. You can post information here or to my
email address: _aph4...@aol.com_ (mailto:aph4...@aol.com) .
Thanks,
Just thought I'd ask if anyone had any phono contacts in Prague or the
Czech Republic. We're planning a trip there this spring and I always like to
look up interested phono people. You can post information here or to my
email address: _aph4...@aol.com_ (mailto:aph4...@aol.com) .
Thanks, A
In a message dated 10/31/10 9:10:49 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
majesticrec...@snet.net writes:
This particular adapter I've been watching for a while. It's been up
there
several months at that price and the seller has yet to lower it to try and
move
it. It interests me as Empire was
In a message dated 9/27/10 2:10:35 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
nip...@dataex.com writes:
A more colorful version of this amusing musical toy can be seen on Page
1-42
of our "Phonograph Dolls and Toys" book.
Robin & Joan Rolfs
Well, at least 5 seconds of playing time makes more sense th
In a message dated 3/8/10 9:41:18 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
thatc...@mediaguide.com writes:
If you're going to gripe about lead, remember that the iron, steel and
aluminum in all cars also mined, shipped and assembled and all leave a
big dirty crater behind like all modern electronic a
In a message dated 1/13/10 10:37:31 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, back...@ya
hoo.com writes:
Having not seen any pictures of an authentic version, I too, was still
thinking that parts of this machine were not original.
Did anyone notice the faint outline of a chin rest on the left rear of
Was the idea that the violin body would resonate and produce a better
sound?
This was an effort to create a machine which would eliminate part or all
of the familiar reproducing features of the talking machines of 1912 or
1913. This is described in a chapter on "Sonorous Bodies" in a 1917
You can really appreciate when someone obviously does plenty of research
before posting an item for sale.
_http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/msg/1340637538.html_
(http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/msg/1340637538.html)
Hey Bruce,
I don't know what you are complaining about. He said "the p
In a message dated 8/3/09 3:01:23 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
john9...@pacbell.net writes:
I once saw the Virgin Mary on a tortilla. OK, I couldn't resist that one...
John Robles
Yes John...but in the case of your tortilla...that WAS the Virgin Mary.
I'll bet you didn't ask $70,000 for
I just couldn't resist asking how the seller knew it was Jesus and the
response was that he or she didn't understand the question. Here's the
response
Im not sure I understand your question but that is why I put the other
picture of Jesus on there so that you can see what is looks like
By the wayThe seller actually doesn't care a whit that he is selling a
piece of junk and is misrepresenting it. He knows full well what this
item is.
The fraudulent description bothered me so much that I wrote him and asked
him why he didn't post the comments made to him referring to t
In a message dated 7/26/09 7:09:37 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
john9...@pacbell.net writes:
Hi All
I made a mistake when I said I had sold the Shackleton cylinder for $700.
It was actually $1400. When it sold we split the cost and $700 was my
share. Some of you may have been thinkning $7
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