Come on Donny, don't leave us hanging!
John
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was/ Frankenreproducer alert
Bummer! However, whats then ending of this saga? The suspense is killing
us.....
--- On Fri, 12/10/10, Don Henry <phonowo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Don Henry <phonowo...@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Phono-L] My experience with ANTIQUE EDISON - Seller's Name was/
Frankenreproducer alert
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 4:49 PM
Hello fellow phono enthusiasts. I have been reading the exchange on the ebay
seller known as ANTIQUE EDISON. His name is John Marinacci. I had the
misfortune of purchasing a Victor VI from him off of Ebay about 2 years ago.
For those of you who would like brave the following email exchange between Mr
Marinacci and me, I am sure you will find it most enlightening... INITIAL
EMAIL: Hi John:I received the Victor VI today. Thank you for the secure
packaging. It arrived safely. However, I am concerned about the overall
condition of the machine . If you remember, I asked you specifically if the
horn had been patched and you said no. Unfortunately, there are at least 5
areas on the horn that have been patched and are easily noticeable. Also, the
finish is splotchy and uneven.Secondly, the machine itself has several glaring
problems. You had indicated that all of the gold hardware had been replated. In
fact, everything but the elbow, crank and the corner
posts are just polished brass. The additional gold plating required will be
very expensive. Secondly, there is a 9" crack on the crank hole side of the
case which has obviously been there since before it was refinished. Also, the
finish is very dark and muddy. The backside of the machine actually has bubbled
up veneer and will have to be removed and reglued.Long story short, this
machine is a far cry from the one described in your auction as "show
condition."I would appreciate it if you would contact me regarding the machine
as soon as possible. Thank you,Don Henry RESPONSE:Hi DonSorry you are not
pleased with it I bought it off the Internet about a yr.ago and that is how it
was described. even more in a plus description. I know as I stated that you can
always look for things I did as well but I did think it was well Good enough to
keep for resale laterI have been in many auctions to see a number of these and
as I stated to me it look like a keeper. If
you want you may return it. Sorry I wish I could wheel and deal with you on it
but I paid $100.00 less than you did. All I can say is that the price that was
paid in my opinion was fair it is by far not a piece of junk.HERE IS THE REST
OF THE SAGA… DH: I never said the machine was a piece of junk. It is simply not
the machine I thought I was buying based on your description and the answers to
that you provided to my specific and detailed questions. So, yes, I would like
to return it. Thank you. I will pay return shipping. I assume you will refund
the full price of $5350? Thank you.JM: Let me say that If you read my Return
policy there is a 15% restocking fee also there is noway anyone will return $
100.00 Shipping & handling:the description of this was as honest as one could
be.you look at it as it was not restored or replated I look at it as it was.you
are always allowed to disagree and I do refund policy because of this. thank
you DH: As much as I
would love for you make $750 on a misrepresented machine, I feel that the
machine is in NO WAY what you described. SHOW CONDITION would generally imply
that the case did not have a 9" CRACK in it and that the horn was not PUTTIED
up with INFERIOR PATCHES. I was trying to be nice but the truth is you TOTALLY
MISREPRESENTED THE CONDITION OF THE MACHINE to an extent that is tantamount to
fraud.Also, you managed to leave your original invoice inside the machine which
indicated you bought it for $4850... not the "$100 less " that you told me,
which further establishes your willingness to not tell the truth.I will make a
case with EBAY and pursue all outlets to make sure that this situation is
remedied. I cannot believe that you are willing to sit here and deny what you
explicitly stated in your description, which by the way was copied from the
previous seller with a few convenient omissions.I really hate the fact that you
are trying to double talk your way
out of this. That upsets me even more than the fact that the machine is not
nearly what you made it out to be.JM: I thought you bought it for $ 5,000.00
also there was no crack in the machine when I sent it to you. there was no
tantamount to fraud.at allin my description if you read it does not state it
was mint original and on a scale from 1-10 its an 11.it is however super
condition regardless of the few bumps .that shows it is original not repro.you
wanted a mint new condition Victor 6 that sells for $ 8500.00 for $ 5000 ,I
told you the best I could what you would get for your money.I described it the
way I saw it. people that buy my machines see that my description is right on
the money I think you got a great machine for the money that you paid.DH: The
crack is obviously an old one as it has been REFINISHED OVER, but there is no
use arguing the point with you. I never expected a MINT machine. I expected the
machine to be as you described... which
it is NOT. I requested more pictures... which you did not send... so I took
YOUR WORD on the SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED YOU. You have apparently
conveniently forgotten my question"ARE THERE ANY PATCHES OR REPAIRS ON THE
HORN?' YOUR ANSWER "NO." HOW DO I INTERPRET THIS??? since there are multiple
and very obvious repairs to the horn. Most people would call that a bold face
lie…Anyway, the damage has been done and I see that you will not address my
specific concerns, so we'll just leave it at that and as I said, I will check
my options with ebay and pursue whatever means I can to correct this
situation.If indeed you wanted to make this right and had any integrity as a
seller, you would simply take the machine back and refund my money instead of
trying to make money with a "restocking fee". I would even eat the $100
shipping/handling. However, I assume you have no intention of doing this. As
for your opinion on getting a "great machine for the money
you paid" that is just what it is... your opinion. JM: Let me say that you are
just to concerned about all the wrong things with the machine .and as I stated
you can find wrong with a new car.you never stated one nice thing about the
machine.you were trying to get a $10,000 machine for $5000. it just does not
happen anymore. all you are concerned is reading things and interpret it your
way and not seeing the 15% fee, but you saw everything else. As I stated in the
description it is a great machine for what you paid. also in my description I
have as is sold no guarantee that is for people like you who are looking for
the mint machine for half the price. again I would be willing to work something
out but it will not be and should not be 100% your way. everyone knows that a
return on anything they do not get the shipping $ back.but you even wanted that
so it shows me who I am dealing withDH: You are either purposely being obtuse,
or you simply choose to
ignore what I write in my emails, as you have never addressed any of the
specific problems I have mentioned. Either way... I find your tactics repugnant
and I do not wish to discuss this further unless you intend to be a responsible
seller. I have bought and sold on ebay for many years and occasionally I run
into someone like you who tries to get away with something. It is a shame and
all I can say is I'm glad I don't treat my customers in this manner.JM: Don I
feel the same way about you. you are one of those people who want a mint never
been touched Victor for half the price and if you can find one little thing
wrong you will pass.you never stated anything that was nice about it not one
thing .just all the things wrong so you can send it back without
reservation.and all the time your hoping it that mint never touched on the
shelf for 100 yrs machine.life does not work like that.I have in my description
sold as is no guarantee and if you insist to
return it I am that good soul that will accept it but then you don't want to
share any of the expenses. And want to just ignore what I state in my
description 15% as I stated I am a very fair person but will not be taken
advantage of its always a two way street.you don't seem to understand.The last
thing I want is for my people to not be pleased with there item.and will do
whatever it takes to make it right .but you want all the gravy and could
careless about the other person.DH: Unless you are accusing me of lying about
the defects in the machine... it boils down to the following: You told me one
thing, the facts told me another. This my friend is MISREPRESENTATION, plain
and simple, regardless of how "great a deal" you think I got. JM: I did not say
there weren't anyI stated that I did not see any. I am not like you that has it
under a microscope. I stated it was restored and to me it look like a very good
restoration that is why I bought it. and if
you would be honest with yourself that is a very nice Victor. No not Mint on
the shelf for the past 100 yrs. that you wanted hoping that I did not know what
I am doing and trying to find that for half the price. you should try to come
to grips with yourself and say honestly this machine is a very nice and honest
description of it and a keeper .and stop taking advantage of people.the things
that you stated that were wrong in your eyes is the reason it was priced for $5
if the things that you stated that bothered you were not there you would pay
$10,it is really hard to work out something when dealing with someone like you
who can not even be honest with themselves.I did not state that this thing was
mint never touched by human hands except to play a few records . this is part
of my description The item description above is an honest evaluation of the
condition of the item based on limited testing. But because I am selling used
equipment no matter how
conscientious I am there may be some things I miss. Therefore, unless
otherwise stated, this item is being sold in its present AS-IS condition. DH:
Lol…ok JM: Thank you. trust me you will really enjoy it. Its a great piece.
just give it time and stop trying to find that diamond in the ruff for $ 0
those days are over you only get what you pay for.and that is with honest
people.there is so much going on that were lucky to even get that these days.
you could be a good person if you give it a chance.and stop looking for the bad
and look for the good. As I said you never stated one good think about the
Victor not even how well it was packed and thanking me for the savings I gave
you. start looking at the good things in life and in people you will live a
much happier life. It takes just as much energy to look at things in a negative
way as it does in a positive way. trust in the positive and your life will be
filled with joy and happinessDH: I am starting
to think you need professional help. You need to start reading emails more
carefully and fully process what is being said to you. It is easy to hide
behind email and not answer the specific questions asked of you.... which has
been the case here. Try to be a little more observant and honest with your next
customer for your sake and for theirs. Pretending not to see 9" cracks and
glaring patchwork is not the way conduct business.I wish you the best in the
future. And as I said... I will pursue whatever means I can thru ebay channels
to fix the situation.JM: You should read my description a little more carefully
you need not go anywhere to fix this I did state if you are not pleased with it
you may return it for a refund I can not be more fair than that. but we must go
by my description full description please read itDH: If you will refund my
$5250 I will return the machine and eat the shipping. This is fair. I'm not
sure why you would expect me to pay a
"restocking fee." JM: As I stated read my description I did state if you are
not pleased with it you may return it for a refund I can not be more fair than
that.but we must go by my description full description please read it 15%the
reason for this is it helps us with people sending items back it could have
sold here or in the auction.now we are going to have to starting this all over
.plus getting the fee back from E-Bay everything is time and money.I have sent
items back with a restocking fee a few times.DH: I will not reward your
misrepresentation with what amounts to a $750 gift. End of story. And PLEASE,
let this be the last communication on this sad situation. I do not wish to hear
any more from you on the subject. You were lucky that I trusted you initially.
That would have been the only way for you to get this kind of money out of this
machine.. And I repeat... please do not send any more emails unless you want to
refund the full price that I
paid for this rather sorry machine. JM: I was right all along just by your
statement calling the machine a sorry machine.as I stated you wanted to take
advantage of me hoping that the machine was mint and only paying $ 5,250 for
it. that is very wrong and there was nothing that was misrepresented.DH: I
guess "please don't email me anymore" didn't sink in. AND THAT MY FRIENDS IS
MY EXPERIENCE WITH MR. JOHN MARINACCI…
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> 1. Re: Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert (Andrew Baron)
> 2. Re: Looking for Mother Goose records (Merle Sprinzen)
> 3. Re: Looking for Mother Goose records (harvey kravitz)
> 4. Re: Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert (Jack Whelan)
> 5. Re: Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:55:56 -0700
> From: Andrew Baron <a...@popyrus.com>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert
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> That's good to hear. Noted also another subscriber to this list was
> satisfied. Nice to be aware that there's some balance.
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Jay Horenstein wrote:
>
> > I purchased a Columbia BY, with wood horn, and matching record
> > cabinet from
> > this seller. Got it for a great price, it was shipped UPS in three
> > boxes,
> > and everything arrived safely, and as advertised.
> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks, I did not know that.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: a...@popyrus.com
> >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> >>> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 14:46:28 -0700
> >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert
> >>>
> >>> Hi Steve ~
> >>>
> >>> The way eBay works, you can't leave a negative feedback AND get
> >>> reimbursed on a bad purchase by eBay's Buyer Protection. The
> >>> unsatisfactory transaction is technically cancelled as though it
> >>> never
> >>> happened to begin with.
> >>>
> >>> Even the posting below acknowledges (despite the positives) that the
> >>> item could have been packed better, had additional (incorrectly
> >>> mounted?) hardware, and he agrees that the seller was rude. And
> >>> yet,
> >>> he probably left a positive feedback.
> >>>
> >>> I think there must be dozens, if not hundreds of dissatisfied buyers
> >>> who would rather be made whole again financially on their
> >>> misrepresented/badly packed/damaged/modified or incomplete purchase,
> >>> than take a loss and retain the ability to leave negative feedback
> >>> on
> >>> this seller, and thus warn others away from a potentially miserable
> >>> experience.
> >>>
> >>> I'm ordinarily very careful about saying anything publicly about
> >>> anyone that isn't positive (if you can't say something nice...), but
> >>> based on personal experience, both my own and that of my friend and
> >>> customer, I can only conclude that this seller is dangerous. He
> >>> certainly doesn't appear to make any effort to "play by the same
> >>> rules".
> >>>
> >>> That's my take on it.
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Steven Medved wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If you look at his ratings they are actually quite good.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all! I'll be be honest and say I have dealt with this
> >>>>>> individual in the past. I guess I'll provide a contrarian view
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> those experiences posted thus far. I purchased an Edison machine
> >>>>>> from him and it was packed relatively well. It could have been
> >>>>>> better, but all was safe. The machine was exactly as stated, but
> >>>>>> came with some extra mounting screws and springs to mount the
> >>>>>> motor to the motor board, so I'm sure someone got screwed (pun
> >>>>>> intended). I must agree that he was somehat a rude individual,
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> not so much that it really bothered me as he shipped very fast
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> everything was actually great! I just thought I'd provide
> >>>>>> another
> >>>>>> view of just my experience. I would not necessaril recommend
> >>>>>> him,
> >>>>>> but my transcation ended well thankfully after reading these
> >>>>>> posts. I do not recall his name, but I looked his phone number
> >>>>>> up
> >>>>>> and found the following information for those who wish to dig
> >>>>>> deeper.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Antique Edison
> >>>>>> (412) 257-8926
> >>>>>> 301 Murray Ave
> >>>>>> Bridgeville, PA 15017
> >>>>>> antiquedi...@aol.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:25:16 -0500
> From: "Merle Sprinzen" <msprin...@gmail.com>
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for Mother Goose records
> Message-ID: <00a701cb971e$6a0ab210$3e2016...@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Thanks SO much, Harvey, for letting me know about this. Luckily (given the
> price) the records I'm looking for weren't produced by Talking Book. These
> were Columbia's, just with a different label. So the pursuit continues!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
> Behalf Of harvey kravitz
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:22 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for Mother Goose records
>
> Merle,
> Go to Ruby Lane and there is a Mother Goose book. Look under phonographs.
> The
> price is steep, $275. for it.
>
> Harvey Kravitz
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:43:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: harvey kravitz <harveykrav...@yahoo.com>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for Mother Goose records
> Message-ID: <312991.94416...@web54501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Merle,
> I never saw records like this before. Were they made the same era as Bubble
> Books? Are they scare and rare? I didn't know Columbia made these.
> All the best,
> Harvey
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Merle Sprinzen <msprin...@gmail.com>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 1:25:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for Mother Goose records
>
> Thanks SO much, Harvey, for letting me know about this. Luckily (given the
> price) the records I'm looking for weren't produced by Talking Book. These
> were Columbia's, just with a different label. So the pursuit continues!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
> Behalf Of harvey kravitz
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:22 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for Mother Goose records
>
> Merle,
> Go to Ruby Lane and there is a Mother Goose book. Look under phonographs.
> The
> price is steep, $275. for it.
>
> Harvey Kravitz
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 00:11:58 +0000
> From: Jack Whelan <jackwhe...@hotmail.com>
> To: <a...@popyrus.com>, Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert
> Message-ID: <bay158-w479d38769c4bce66fa6210d5...@phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Andy, Thanks for the heads up on this topic. As a result of your info, I
> was able to get reimbursed under eBay's Buyer Protection Plan and post a
> negative feedback to warn others about the buyer.
> At Vonage's suggestion, I bought a used Vonage router (my previous Vonage
> Linksys router failed) on eBay. The seller claimed it was only 6 months
> old... When I tried to use it, Vonage told me there was an outstanding
> balance on the account associated with that router so it was not a valid
> Vonage product. The buyer agreed to take it back and offered a product only
> refund, no freight. After repeatedly asking for the promised refund, the
> buyer later claimed he never received it back, contrary to the receipt I got
> from the Post Office. I submitted the info to PayPal, they wanted to
> negotiate. I said I wanted the full refund including freight charges.
> PayPal ruled in my favor saying nobody was at fault and the transaction was
> cancelled. I immediately posted the negative feedback before getting
> PayPal's cancellation notice. So if you act quickly before PayPal/eBay
> sweep it away, perhaps we can help others by posting negative feedback when
deserved.
> Jack
>
> > From:
> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 14:46:28 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert
> >
> > Hi Steve ~
> >
> > The way eBay works, you can't leave a negative feedback AND get
> > reimbursed on a bad purchase by eBay's Buyer Protection. The
> > unsatisfactory transaction is technically cancelled as though it never
> > happened to begin with.
> >
> > Even the posting below acknowledges (despite the positives) that the
> > item could have been packed better, had additional (incorrectly
> > mounted?) hardware, and he agrees that the seller was rude. And yet,
> > he probably left a positive feedback.
> >
> > I think there must be dozens, if not hundreds of dissatisfied buyers
> > who would rather be made whole again financially on their
> > misrepresented/badly packed/damaged/modified or incomplete purchase,
> > than take a loss and retain the ability to leave negative feedback on
> > this seller, and thus warn others away from a potentially miserable
> > experience.
> >
> > I'm ordinarily very careful about saying anything publicly about
> > anyone that isn't positive (if you can't say something nice...), but
> > based on personal experience, both my own and that of my friend and
> > customer, I can only conclude that this seller is dangerous. He
> > certainly doesn't appear to make any effort to "play by the same rules".
> >
> > That's my take on it.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Steven Medved wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > If you look at his ratings they are actually quite good.
> > >
> > >
> > >>> Hi all! I'll be be honest and say I have dealt with this
> > >>> individual in the past. I guess I'll provide a contrarian view to
> > >>> those experiences posted thus far. I purchased an Edison machine
> > >>> from him and it was packed relatively well. It could have been
> > >>> better, but all was safe. The machine was exactly as stated, but
> > >>> came with some extra mounting screws and springs to mount the
> > >>> motor to the motor board, so I'm sure someone got screwed (pun
> > >>> intended). I must agree that he was somehat a rude individual, but
> > >>> not so much that it really bothered me as he shipped very fast and
> > >>> everything was actually great! I just thought I'd provide another
> > >>> view of just my experience. I would not necessaril recommend him,
> > >>> but my transcation ended well thankfully after reading these
> > >>> posts. I do not recall his name, but I looked his phone number up
> > >>> and found the following information for those who wish to dig
> > >>> deeper.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Antique Edison
> > >>> (412) 257-8926
> > >>> 301 Murray Ave
> > >>> Bridgeville, PA 15017
> > >>> antiquedi...@aol.com
> > >>>
> > >>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 04:10:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert
> Message-ID: <807119.21437...@web81507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>
> Yes.? I was the other who expressed satisfaction with my transaction with
> this seller.? There are always things that could be better, but in the end I
> had no issue with this seller.??I was actually very happy in the end.?
> However, I do not necessarily promote or degrade anyone specifically as we
> all have our own?experiences in this and other ventures.? To explain further,
> I will add, based again on my own personal experience in collecting
> phonographs and related items, that I have had only two or three poor
> experiences in some 15 years.? These were, I'm sorry to report, with noted
> collectors and/or those perported to be "experts" in the field....MAPS
> members.? I wasn't as satisfied in those circumstances.? Thus, I feel we need
> to be careful when publicly slamming a specific individual.? That would be my
> only point for now.?
> Ron?
>
> --- On Wed, 12/8/10, Andrew Baron <a...@popyrus.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Andrew Baron <a...@popyrus.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 2:55 PM
>
>
> That's good to hear.? Noted also another subscriber to this list was
> satisfied.? Nice to be aware that there's some balance.
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Jay Horenstein wrote:
>
> > I purchased a Columbia BY, with wood horn, and matching record cabinet from
> > this seller.? Got it for a great price, it was shipped UPS in three boxes,
> > and everything arrived safely, and as advertised.
> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks, I did not know that.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: a...@popyrus.com
> >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> >>> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 14:46:28 -0700
> >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer? alert
> >>>
> >>> Hi Steve ~
> >>>
> >>> The way eBay works, you can't leave a negative feedback AND get
> >>> reimbursed on a bad purchase by eBay's Buyer Protection.? The
> >>> unsatisfactory transaction is technically cancelled as though it never
> >>> happened to begin with.
> >>>
> >>> Even the posting below acknowledges (despite the positives) that the
> >>> item could have been packed better, had additional (incorrectly
> >>> mounted?) hardware, and he agrees that the seller was rude.? And yet,
> >>> he probably left a positive feedback.
> >>>
> >>> I think there must be dozens, if not hundreds of dissatisfied buyers
> >>> who would rather be made whole again financially on their
> >>> misrepresented/badly packed/damaged/modified or incomplete purchase,
> >>> than take a loss and retain the ability to leave negative feedback on
> >>> this seller, and thus warn others away from a potentially miserable
> >>> experience.
> >>>
> >>> I'm ordinarily very careful about saying anything publicly about
> >>> anyone that isn't positive (if you can't say something nice...), but
> >>> based on personal experience, both my own and that of my friend and
> >>> customer, I can only conclude that this seller is dangerous.? He
> >>> certainly doesn't appear to make any effort to "play by the same rules".
> >>>
> >>> That's my take on it.
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Steven Medved wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If you look at his ratings they are actually quite good.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all!? I'll be be honest and say I have dealt with this
> >>>>>> individual in the past.? I guess I'll provide a contrarian view to
> >>>>>> those experiences posted thus far.? I purchased an Edison machine
> >>>>>> from him and it was packed relatively well.? It could have been
> >>>>>> better, but all was safe.? The machine was exactly as stated, but
> >>>>>> came with some extra mounting screws and springs to mount the
> >>>>>> motor to the motor board, so I'm sure someone got screwed (pun
> >>>>>> intended). I must agree that he was somehat a rude individual, but
> >>>>>> not so much that it really bothered me as he shipped very fast and
> >>>>>> everything was actually great!? I just thought I'd provide another
> >>>>>> view of just my experience.? I would not necessaril recommend him,
> >>>>>> but my transcation ended well thankfully after reading these
> >>>>>> posts.? I do not recall his name, but I looked his phone number up
> >>>>>> and found the following information for those who wish to dig
> >>>>>> deeper.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Antique Edison
> >>>>>> (412) 257-8926
> >>>>>> 301 Murray Ave
> >>>>>> Bridgeville, PA 15017
> >>>>>> antiquedi...@aol.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
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