By the way, I went to the Bay area last weekend to pick up an Edison C-450. I will post pics later after I clean it up a little. The paintings on the grille and surrounding areas are really nice and still quite good. I am informed by another C-450 owner that some people actually painted these machines, obliterating the original hand painted designs! The machine plays very nicely and quitely, which sort of surprised me, for it having sat unused for so long. It belonged to a collector in the bay area, perhaps some of you knew him. His name was Dennis Manochio?? From what I can find in research, he had an auction house. John Robles