Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] PHP 4.3.0 released

2002-12-28 Thread Rick Widmer
At 11:29 AM 12/28/02 -0700, The Doctor wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 04:04:14AM -0700, Rick Widmer wrote: > At 08:40 PM 12/27/02 -0700, The Doctor wrote: > ./configure --with-apache=../apache --with-mysql --with-pgsql=/usr > --enable-cli --enable-calendar --enable-debug=no > --with-config-file=/w

[PHP-DEV] php.ini ignored! Re: [PHP] PHP 4.3.0 released

2002-12-28 Thread omer k
redhat, apache2.0.43 (as dso). compiles and runs without a problem php4.3.0release fails to utilize php.ini settings. ignores changes to the ini file. ./configure --with-config-file-path=/usr/local/apache2/conf/php.ini --with-a pxs2=/usr/local/apache2/bin/apxs --with-mysql (got no errors) thi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Georg Richter
Hi, I don't understand why lot of people complain about Saschas posting It was just an information After reading this thread I think another script for "useless discussions" would be nice :) Just my 2 cents Georg -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visi

Re: [PHP-DEV] autoconf troubles with 4.3.0

2002-12-28 Thread Joerg Behrens
- Original Message - From: "Sascha Schumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kristian Koehntopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] autoconf troubles with 4.3.0 > > ***BUG in Autoconf--please report*** AC_ADD_LIBRARY_WITH

[PHP-DEV] Creating objects at startup

2002-12-28 Thread Stefano Corsi
Hello. Is there a way to force php (apxs) load a php script containing class definition at startup time and have them registered as if they were created through zend_register_internal_class() thus eliminating the need to code all classes in C as an extension? Thanks and best regards, S

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread George Schlossnagle
Then my hopes for also being on the top 10 list of correct users of nomenclature are shot. Those are called tags, remember the "importance of effective communication"! -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, George Schlossnagle wrote: > Guess I should add visible tokens in the future, eh? Not really, I just wanted to point that out explicitly for the benefit of the rest. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, George Schlossnagle wrote: > Guess I should add visible tokens in the future, eh? Those are called tags, remember the "importance of effective communication"! Derick -- - Derick Rethans

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread George Schlossnagle
Guess I should add visible tokens in the future, eh? And if it has not been obvious, the "top 10" should be taken with a grain of salt. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, George Schlossnagle wrote: > Wow... top 10. And to think my guidance counselor said I would never > amount to anything And if it has not been obvious, the "top 10" should be taken with a grain of salt. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread George Schlossnagle
Wow... top 10. And to think my guidance counselor said I would never amount to anything . And the top 10 again (messages with a ratio >= 3): ... George Schlossnagleavg of 11.78 in 4 postings ... -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
> I did my best to enlighten your poor soul in the past, numerous times, but > I at some point I realized it's beyond my reach. Knowing one's limits is a > virtue, and I know mine, so you're on your own! As enjoyable as always, - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 00:52 29/12/2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: > Read back your (as usual) condescending remarks, and the entire > thread. You're a smart guy, figure it out! Well, I would appreciate an answer on why this thing is 'idiotic' and 'out of proportion'. Please enlighten my poor soul, dear Z

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
> Read back your (as usual) condescending remarks, and the entire > thread. You're a smart guy, figure it out! Well, I would appreciate an answer on why this thing is 'idiotic' and 'out of proportion'. Please enlighten my poor soul, dear Zeev! - Sascha -- PHP Development Mail

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 00:48 29/12/2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Give us a break. And spare me an intelligent explanation about why we're > fools and you roolz, and why we don't deserve a break. > > Only a fool would blow such an idiotic thing out of proportion. I ran

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Give us a break. And spare me an intelligent explanation about why we're > fools and you roolz, and why we don't deserve a break. > > Only a fool would blow such an idiotic thing out of proportion. I ran a script and posted the results -- why is tha

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
Give us a break. And spare me an intelligent explanation about why we're fools and you roolz, and why we don't deserve a break. Only a fool would blow such an idiotic thing out of proportion. Zeev At 00:23 29/12/2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: Only a fool would decry the importance of effecti

Re: [PHP-DEV] autoconf troubles with 4.3.0

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
> ***BUG in Autoconf--please report*** AC_ADD_LIBRARY_WITH_PATH > ***BUG in Autoconf--please report*** AC_ADD_INCLUDE Ah, sorry, I did not really look at the output. The undefined macros should not be referenced by any of PHP's config.m4 scripts anymore. If you e.g. copied an old

Re: [PHP-DEV] autoconf troubles with 4.3.0

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
> p15104972:/usr/src/packages/SPECS # rpm -qi m4 Try "m4 --version". The package version is likely to be wrong. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] autoconf troubles with 4.3.0

2002-12-28 Thread Kristian Koehntopp
On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 12:28:16PM +0100, Derick Rethans wrote: > Looks like a bug in your build tools installation. Can you try upgrading > to automake 1.5 and libtool to 1.4.2? Will try. Kristian -- Kristian Köhntopp, NetUSE AG, Dr.-Hell-Straße, D-24107 Kiel Tel: +49 431 386 435 00, Fax: +49

Re: [PHP-DEV] autoconf troubles with 4.3.0

2002-12-28 Thread Kristian Koehntopp
On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 12:33:06PM +0100, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > ***BUG in Autoconf--please report*** AC_ADD_LIBRARY_WITH_PATH > > ***BUG in Autoconf--please report*** AC_ADD_INCLUDE > > Install m4 1.4 rather than 1.4o. p15104972:/usr/src/packages/SPECS # rpm -qi m4 Name: m4

[PHP-DEV] Re: #21175 [Com]: Compile error with my_tempnam.c

2002-12-28 Thread Derick Rethans
On 28 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ID: 21175 > Comment by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Status: Bogus > Bug Type: Compile Failure > Operating System: Debian linux 3.0 / linux 2.4.19 > PHP Version: 4.3.0RC4 > New

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
Only a fool would decry the importance of effective communication. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
You grabbed the words from my throat :) Zeev At 20:36 28/12/2002, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Sascha, we need to give you something constructive to work on... -Rasmus (top-posted with lots of quoted text just for you) On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: > After looking at a few messages

Re: [PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Sascha, we need to give you something constructive to work on... -Rasmus (top-posted with lots of quoted text just for you) On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: > After looking at a few messages again, I noticed that my > script also considered signatures (personal and the mailing

Re: [PHP-DEV] META: Proper quoting

2002-12-28 Thread Jon Parise
On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 02:28:54PM +0100, Sascha Schumann wrote: > I've noticed a trend to extreme over-quoting on the php > developer mailing lists. (Not to mention top-posting, but > that's another topic.) One of the most annoying results of over-quoting is the inclusion of multip

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] PHP 4.3.0 released

2002-12-28 Thread The Doctor
On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 04:04:14AM -0700, Rick Widmer wrote: > At 08:40 PM 12/27/02 -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > >Is it just my or are there problems with static Aapche 1.3.27 compiles? > > I don't know if it is _just_ you, but my static install compiled and is > running just fine. > > SuSE

[PHP-DEV] Update: Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
After looking at a few messages again, I noticed that my script also considered signatures (personal and the mailing list's) as "original" lines. Once these are kicked out, we see a far worse picture (the ratios almost double): 1%: >= 34.60 5%: >= 12.50 10%: >= 6.75 15%: >=

[PHP-DEV] Quoting behaviour exposed

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
So, I had a look at whether pure numbers would support the suggestion that quoting behaviour was not up to speed on this list. Considering the last 888 emails to php-dev, the script found the following quoted/original ratio: 1%: >= 17.25 5%: >= 6.25 10%: >= 3.50

[PHP-DEV] Detecting a NULL key/value pair in QUERY_STRING

2002-12-28 Thread Rich Garcia
Folks, PHP newbie here...I'm writing a simple page that dynamically changes an included file based on the query string: When the URL is "index.php?content=foo" all is fine. When I try "index.php", I get the following error message: "Notice: Undefined index: content in C:\\Apache2\htdo

[PHP-DEV] PHP 4 Bug Summary Report

2002-12-28 Thread php-dev
PHP 4 Bug Database summary - http://bugs.php.net Num Status Summary (1063 total including feature requests) ===[*Compression related]= 21228 Open output handler 'ob_gzhandler' cannot be used twice =

Re: [PHP-DEV] META: Proper quoting

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
> I find top-quoting extremely annoying too. It's like in the TV show Jeopardy. A: Top posters. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet? Does it make sense to post something in that order? No. Maintaining a strict Q-A order facilitates processing of your email on th

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #21232 [Opn->Fbk]: Unresolved references to PQsetnonblocking

2002-12-28 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, Floyd wrote: > At 11:22 AM 12/28/02 +, Derick wrote: > >Would you be able to prepare a patch for us (By doing "diff -U > >oldfilename.c newfilename.c)? Please send it as attachment to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Here is the patch file made by running: > >diff -U4 php-4.

Re: [PHP-DEV] META: Proper quoting

2002-12-28 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, Sascha Schumann wrote: > I've noticed a trend to extreme over-quoting on the php > developer mailing lists. (Not to mention top-posting, but > that's another topic.) I find top-quoting extremely annoying too. > > In the latest example, Derick' email could h

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard array.c /ext/standard/tests/array range.phpt

2002-12-28 Thread Moriyoshi Koizumi
> Added support for float values and handling of numeric values being passed > as strings. Is this change likely to cause backwards compatibility issues? Moriyoshi -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] Re: Bug #21232 [Opn->Fbk]: Unresolved references to PQsetnonblocking

2002-12-28 Thread Floyd
At 11:22 AM 12/28/02 +, Derick wrote: ID: 21232 Updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Status: Open +Status: Feedback Bug Type: Compile Failure Operating System: RedHat Linux 6.2 PHP Version: 4.3.0 New Com

[PHP-DEV] META: Proper quoting

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
I've noticed a trend to extreme over-quoting on the php developer mailing lists. (Not to mention top-posting, but that's another topic.) In the latest example, Derick' email could have been 88% shorter, if he had just cut down the contents to the essential pieces. While i

[PHP-DEV] win32 php.ini default behavior better in php executable directory?

2002-12-28 Thread Petar
Hi All, Sorry about the cross post but I suppose it applies in both areas. I raised a few questions about getting an alternate php.ini recognised when multiple php installs are on a windows 2000 server with no real solution so far. I noticed 4.3.0 claims to have support for the "-c /path/to/php.i

Re: [PHP-DEV] option to start in PHP mode

2002-12-28 Thread Marcus Börger
At 10:46 28.12.2002, Andi Gutmans wrote: At 01:45 AM 12/28/2002 +0100, Marcus Börger wrote: At 22:40 27.12.2002, Andi Gutmans wrote: I don't think it's beneficial to PHP to have two modes especially as the cli more you're talking about would support ?> followed by a Let's keep things similar a

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] PHP 4.3.0 released

2002-12-28 Thread Rick Widmer
At 08:40 PM 12/27/02 -0700, The Doctor wrote: Is it just my or are there problems with static Aapche 1.3.27 compiles? I don't know if it is _just_ you, but my static install compiled and is running just fine. SuSE 8.0 php 4.3.0 Apache 1.3.27 Mod_SSL 2.8.12-1.3.27 OpenSSL 0.9.6h ming 0.2

Re: [PHP-DEV] autoconf troubles with 4.3.0

2002-12-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
> ***BUG in Autoconf--please report*** AC_ADD_LIBRARY_WITH_PATH > ***BUG in Autoconf--please report*** AC_ADD_INCLUDE Install m4 1.4 rather than 1.4o. - Sascha -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] autoconf troubles with 4.3.0

2002-12-28 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, Kristian Koehntopp wrote: > > I am trying to build a fresh php 4.3.0 rpm on SuSe Linux 7.2 > with all updates. My build is based on the spec file for a > working 4.2.3 build, which I updated for 4.3.0. It fails like > this: Looks like a bug in your build tools installation.

Re: [PHP-DEV] emalloc() troubles

2002-12-28 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > PHP shouldn't leak memory even if output/input from/to external program > differs. It seems it's a PHP problem for this matter. If you had read the thread you would have seen that the memory leak is only there in his patch. Derick > Ari Pollak wrote:

Re: [PHP-DEV] option to start in PHP mode

2002-12-28 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 01:45 AM 12/28/2002 +0100, Marcus Börger wrote: At 22:40 27.12.2002, Andi Gutmans wrote: I don't think it's beneficial to PHP to have two modes especially as the cli more you're talking about would support ?> followed by a Let's keep things similar across the board. Andi I agree here, too.