Re: [PHP-DEV] Classes & function names

On Fri, 4 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: > IMHO, in a compatibility breaking upgrade, we should look into defaulting > to case sensitivity, while allowing case insensitivity as a non-default option. > > Zeev > That solves my problem and makes me happy. +1 -- John Donagher Application Engin

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>>IMHO, in a compatibility breaking upgrade, we should look into defaulting >>to case sensitivity, while allowing case insensitivity as a >non-default option. >+1 +1 =) Peter "[DiSAStA]" Petermann

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On Fri, 4 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: >IMHO, in a compatibility breaking upgrade, we should look into defaulting >to case sensitivity, while allowing case insensitivity as a non-default option. +1 from me too. -Chris -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, e-m

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On Fri, 4 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: >IMHO, in a compatibility breaking upgrade, we should look into defaulting >to case sensitivity, while allowing case insensitivity as a non-default option. +1 --Jani -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

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On 2001-05-04 14:45:48, "Wez Furlong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that has a higher WTF factor than making it case sensitive in 4.1 4.0 I mean. --Wez. -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTE

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At 16:45 4/5/2001, Wez Furlong wrote: >Stig suggested making it case-insensitive by default until 4.2; I think >that has a higher WTF factor than making it case sensitive in 4.1 I truly suggest to keep the version number issue to some other time... Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing List

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Zeev Suraski schrieb: > The other, is a more fundamental change, and it is to change PHP to be case > dependant. PHP 4.0 follows the standard set by PHP/FI 2.0 (or earlier), > and maintains case sensitivity for variable names, but not function names > or class names. IMHO, there's very little

Re: [PHP-DEV] Classes & function names

On 2001-05-04 11:29:23, "Zeev Suraski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IMHO, in a compatibility breaking upgrade, we should look into defaulting > to case sensitivity, while allowing case insensitivity as a non-default option. +1. Stig suggested making it case-insensitive by default until 4.2; I th

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Quoting Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The other, is a more fundamental change, and it is to change PHP to be case > dependant. PHP 4.0 follows the standard set by PHP/FI 2.0 (or earlier), > and maintains case sensitivity for variable names, but not function names > or class names. IMHO

Re: [PHP-DEV] Classes & function names

From zend_execute.c: tmp = *function_name; zval_copy_ctor(&tmp); convert_to_string(&tmp); function_name = &tmp; zend_str_tolower(tmp.value.str.val, tmp.value.str.len); That can be avoided al

Re: [PHP-DEV] Classes & function names

On Fri, 04 May 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I think that there are two ways to look at the issue that John raised. > > One, is a cosmetic change, that would add a bit of bloat to classes, and > retain another name in them. Allowing access to it using some specialized > function (get_beautiful_c

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On Fri, 4 May 2001, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Zeev Suraski wrote: > > It would also improve performance fairly significantly. > > Just curious, since I don't know the 'inner magic' of the ZendEngine: > Why do you expect a performance improvement by introducing case > sensitivity for class/func

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Zeev Suraski wrote: > It would also improve performance fairly significantly. Just curious, since I don't know the 'inner magic' of the ZendEngine: Why do you expect a performance improvement by introducing case sensitivity for class/function names? -- sebastian bergmann

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Zeev Suraski wrote: > ADT? (I know what it means, but not in the context of PHP) Sterling is working for some time now on a ADT extension for PHP, that offers native PHP data-types for Lists, Trees, ... -- sebastian bergmann[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [PHP-DEV] Classes & function names - ADT

Ah; I'd imagine it'll be implemented as an extension module and not on the language level, so it shouldn't be related in any way. Zeev At 15:56 4/5/2001, John Parker wrote: > > >Hmm... hope Sterling's work on ADT (sweet, sweet ADT, drool, etc.) isn't > > >delayed due to this. (Doubt it would

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> >Hmm... hope Sterling's work on ADT (sweet, sweet ADT, drool, etc.) isn't > >delayed due to this. (Doubt it would be, but you never know.) > > ADT? (I know what it means, but not in the context of PHP) > It was briefly mentioned on the Weekly Summary for 23/03/01 on the Zend web site. (http:

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At 15:32 4/5/2001, John Parker wrote: >Hmm... hope Sterling's work on ADT (sweet, sweet ADT, drool, etc.) isn't >delayed due to this. (Doubt it would be, but you never know.) ADT? (I know what it means, but not in the context of PHP) Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing List

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At 15:34 4/5/2001, Edin Kadribasic wrote: >I agree on this one too. What about writing a migration tool that can "fix" >the existing code automagically? It'll be possible. Let's take it one step at a time though... Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, e-

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> > Let's not worry about the versions right now; I'm mostly interested in > > getting feedback about the concept itself. > > > Making PHP case sensitive seems like a good idea. (I've always wondered why > bits of it were and bits weren't, to be honest.) I agree on this one too. What about writi

RE: [PHP-DEV] Classes & function names

> Let's not worry about the versions right now; I'm mostly interested in > getting feedback about the concept itself. > Making PHP case sensitive seems like a good idea. (I've always wondered why bits of it were and bits weren't, to be honest.) Making the default mode insensitive in the next

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Let's not worry about the versions right now; I'm mostly interested in getting feedback about the concept itself. Zeev At 14:30 4/5/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: >[Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > I think that there are two ways to look at the issue that John raised. > > > > One, is a c

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[Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > I think that there are two ways to look at the issue that John raised. > > One, is a cosmetic change, that would add a bit of bloat to classes, > and retain another name in them. Allowing access to it using some > specialized function (get_beautiful_class_nam

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At 01:29 PM 5/4/2001 +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote: >I think that there are two ways to look at the issue that John raised. > >One, is a cosmetic change, that would add a bit of bloat to classes, and >retain another name in them. Allowing access to it using some specialized >function (get_beautiful

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>IMHO, in a compatibility breaking upgrade, we should look into defaulting >to case sensitivity, while allowing case insensitivity as a non-default option. +1 Full case sensitivity is preferable, I think. Cheerio, Marc. -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, e-

[PHP-DEV] Classes & function names

I think that there are two ways to look at the issue that John raised. One, is a cosmetic change, that would add a bit of bloat to classes, and retain another name in them. Allowing access to it using some specialized function (get_beautiful_class_name() or something like that). The other, is