Re: PSR-15 version target [was: Re: PSR-15 Generators]

2017-08-05 Thread Matthieu Napoli
I personally agree with the idea of targeting 7.0 and up, Larry made a good case for it. Release two versions is confusing. A PSR needs to be a simple and clear message: one solution, one version, one recommended way to do it. It's also (IMO) a good thing that the FIG pushes PHP 7 forward. Mat

Re: PSR-15 version target [was: Re: PSR-15 Generators]

2017-08-05 Thread Niklas Keller
> > Something like that is pretty stupid. It prevents having an implementation >> that's compatible with both, 5.6 and 7. And two versions of a package can't >> be installed side-by-side with Composer. New major versions of PSRs should >> definitely use new package names for that reason. >> >>

Re: PSR-15 version target [was: Re: PSR-15 Generators]

2017-08-04 Thread Woody Gilk
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Niklas Keller wrote: > On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 10:54:08 AM UTC+2, Adrien Crivelli wrote: >> >> I can see that Woody is feeling strongly in favor of support of PHP 5.6. >> I assume he knows what he is talking about better than myself and will >> trust him on th

Re: PSR-15 version target [was: Re: PSR-15 Generators]

2017-08-04 Thread Stefano Torresi
Il giorno ven 4 ago 2017 alle ore 14:16 Niklas Keller < nicks.post.kes...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Something like that is pretty stupid. It prevents having an implementation > that's compatible with both, 5.6 and 7. And two versions of a package can't > be installed side-by-side with Composer. New

Re: PSR-15 version target [was: Re: PSR-15 Generators]

2017-08-04 Thread Niklas Keller
On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 10:54:08 AM UTC+2, Adrien Crivelli wrote: > > I can see that Woody is feeling strongly in favor of support of PHP 5.6. I > assume he knows what he is talking about better than myself and will trust > him on that. Let's not waste more time debating on something that ca

Re: PSR-15 version target [was: Re: PSR-15 Generators]

2017-08-04 Thread Niklas Keller
On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 10:54:08 AM UTC+2, Adrien Crivelli wrote: > > I can see that Woody is feeling strongly in favor of support of PHP 5.6. I > assume he knows what he is talking about better than myself and will trust > him on that. Let's not waste more time debating on something that ca

Re: PSR-15 version target [was: Re: PSR-15 Generators]

2017-08-04 Thread Adrien Crivelli
I can see that Woody is feeling strongly in favor of support of PHP 5.6. I assume he knows what he is talking about better than myself and will trust him on that. Let's not waste more time debating on something that can be implemented quickly and easily (with a 1.0 for PHP 5.6 and 2.0 for PHP 7+

Re: PSR-15 version target [was: Re: PSR-15 Generators]

2017-08-03 Thread Stefano Torresi
I think the real problem behind this discussion is PSR versioning. We should address that first, because the process of releasing a new PSR to bump requirements is time consuming and inefficient, as Woody maybe wrote between the lines. Il Gio 3 Ago 2017, 18:26 Woody Gilk ha scritto: > On Thu, Au

Re: PSR-15 version target [was: Re: PSR-15 Generators]

2017-08-03 Thread Woody Gilk
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Larry Garfield wrote: > Let's go ahead and target PHP 7.0 for PSR-15 outright. > I'm going to say no to this. There is already a significant ecosystem of middleware that supports PHP 5.6 and I want those early adopters to be able to use PSR-15 right away. It will

Re: PSR-15 version target [was: Re: PSR-15 Generators]

2017-08-03 Thread Rivera, John
The question, I think, is how far ahead should we look? For example, if we decide to target PHP 7, but not 7.1, that will be EOL’d in a year and four months. PSR-15 has been in limbo for nearly that long…! PHP 7.1 will be EOL’d in two years and four months — that’s coming faster than you’d thin

PSR-15 version target [was: Re: PSR-15 Generators]

2017-08-03 Thread Larry Garfield
On 08/03/2017 07:17 AM, Adrien Crivelli wrote: > > On Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:01:34 UTC+2, Woody Gilk wrote: > > > This would require >= PHP 7 > > That's a non-starter. There are plenty of people stuck on PHP 5.x > for various reasons and I don't want to shut them out. > > > PHP 7+