Re: [PHP] Re: Webhotel structure

2008-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/12/31 tedd : > Everythink about getin' a job? > There's that word again! You keep using that word. I do not think that it means what you think it means. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-

[PHP] Encryption/decryption of PHP data

2008-12-30 Thread Edward Diener
My client application needs to send data to a PHP page in encrypted form and have the PHP code able to decrypt it. Likewise the PHP code needs to return data to my application encrypted and my client application needs to be able to decrypt it. My application is written in C++ and naturally the PH

Re: [PHP] Is MD5 still considered safe for storing application user passwords?

2008-12-30 Thread APseudoUtopia
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Murray wrote: > Hi All, > > I've been vaguely aware that more and more effort is going into proving that > MD5 isn't secure anymore, but this article in particular - > http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/ - has me wondering if MD5 is still > safe for storing h

Re: [PHP] Is MD5 still considered safe for storing application user passwords?

2008-12-30 Thread Phpster
I would guess that a properly salted hash would still be safe enough for most sites. Just a hash of the password is not enough as there are readily available hash tables where you can look up the password just by supplying the hash. Sha-1 is a better alternative for hashing but I would stil

[PHP] Is MD5 still considered safe for storing application user passwords?

2008-12-30 Thread Murray
Hi All, I've been vaguely aware that more and more effort is going into proving that MD5 isn't secure anymore, but this article in particular - http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/ - has me wondering if MD5 is still safe for storing hashed user passwords? I realise that article is talking ab

Re: [PHP] Since I speak with some of you more than people I see in person....

2008-12-30 Thread VamVan
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:22 PM, tedd wrote: > At 4:32 PM -0500 12/30/08, Daniel Brown wrote: > >>To hell with being on-topic, since this list is generally never >> on-topic for an entire thread anyway. >> >>This has been a roller-coaster year for some of us --- certainly >> myself includ

Re: [PHP] Re: Webhotel structure

2008-12-30 Thread tedd
At 5:44 PM +0200 12/30/08, Dotan Cohen wrote: 1) "Webhotel" is called "web hosting" in English. 2) "Everythink" should probably be "everything". "Everythink" sounds like you are thying to think about the entire universe at the same Dotan: Thanks for the clarification -- I was thinking it cou

Re: [PHP] Since I speak with some of you more than people I see in person....

2008-12-30 Thread tedd
At 4:32 PM -0500 12/30/08, Daniel Brown wrote: To hell with being on-topic, since this list is generally never on-topic for an entire thread anyway. This has been a roller-coaster year for some of us --- certainly myself included --- but the year has come to a close. I want to take a mo

Re: [PHP] Since I speak with some of you more than people I see in person....

2008-12-30 Thread Stuart
2008/12/30 Daniel Brown : >This has been a roller-coaster year for some of us --- certainly > myself included --- but the year has come to a close. I want to take > a moment to wish each and every one of you a safe and wonderful new > year. May 2009 be ten times healthier, happier, and more p

Re: [PHP] PHP telnet server

2008-12-30 Thread Luke Slater
That supersocket class certainly seems good enough to get me started, thanks everyone! On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, There are plenty of ready to use solutions to build TCP servers. Here are some of them: Simple TCP Daemon http://www.phpclasses.org/daemon Generic socket ba

Re: [PHP] Since I speak with some of you more than people I see in person....

2008-12-30 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 16:32 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: > To hell with being on-topic, since this list is generally never > on-topic for an entire thread anyway. > > This has been a roller-coaster year for some of us --- certainly > myself included --- but the year has come to a close. I want

Re: [PHP] Since I speak with some of you more than people I see in person....

2008-12-30 Thread Kirk . Johnson
> >And as a side note (some of you already know): for my wife and I > > closing out the year, we heard the heartbeat of our first child for > > the first time today in the ultrasound. > Congrats on the new critter to be...they are a lot of fun after the first > year of eating sleeping and poo

Re: [PHP] Since I speak with some of you more than people I see in person....

2008-12-30 Thread Bastien Koert
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: >To hell with being on-topic, since this list is generally never > on-topic for an entire thread anyway. > >This has been a roller-coaster year for some of us --- certainly > myself included --- but the year has come to a close. I want

Re: [PHP] PHP telnet server

2008-12-30 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, There are plenty of ready to use solutions to build TCP servers. Here are some of them: Simple TCP Daemon http://www.phpclasses.org/daemon Generic socket based networking servers http://www.phpclasses.org/clssocket Implement TCP socket server scripts http://www.phpclasses.org/flosocket

Re: [PHP] Re: Webhotel structure

2008-12-30 Thread Daniel Brown
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 16:37, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/30 Nordstjernealle 10 : >> Hi Dotan >> >> I am glad I can at least be funny. >> I must admit I am a bit lazy when it comes to write perfect english in >> mails. I believe we can do better with our time. >> In this particulary case the res

Re: [PHP] PHP telnet server

2008-12-30 Thread Daniel Brown
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 16:34, wrote: > > I often thought PHP would be a nice language for a MUD, if one could get the > performance out of it... > > 'Course you could always write some of the heaviest bits as extensions... Indeed. I had written a very simple control-panel-like Telnet scri

Re: [PHP] PHP telnet server

2008-12-30 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 16:21 -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Luke Slater wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > A quick read over Stevens` A.P.U.E. and UNIX Network Programing Vol. 1 > should familarize you with multi-threaded TCP/IP daemon development. Couple of problems...

Re: [PHP] Re: Webhotel structure

2008-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/12/30 Nordstjernealle 10 : > Hi Dotan > > I am glad I can at least be funny. > I must admit I am a bit lazy when it comes to write perfect english in > mails. I believe we can do better with our time. > In this particulary case the result was below acceptable levels. > English is not my nativ

Re: [PHP] PHP telnet server

2008-12-30 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 21:12 +, Luke Slater wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm trying to rewrite an old MUD in PHP; the reasons for this are that the > original is written in C and most files in the codebase run over 2000 > lines with at least 20 of them, which makes it very hard to change > anyt

Re: [PHP] PHP telnet server

2008-12-30 Thread ceo
I often thought PHP would be a nice language for a MUD, if one could get the performance out of it... 'Course you could always write some of the heaviest bits as extensions... Anyway, I don't think you need the connections to be "shared" in any special way. Just update your data store a

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 12/30/2008 04:27 PM Nathan Nobbe said the following: I was following the blog tutorial on cake and here's what I got from hitting the post/index page: 081230 12:51:55 316 Connect r...@localhost on 316 Init DB cake

[PHP] Since I speak with some of you more than people I see in person....

2008-12-30 Thread Daniel Brown
To hell with being on-topic, since this list is generally never on-topic for an entire thread anyway. This has been a roller-coaster year for some of us --- certainly myself included --- but the year has come to a close. I want to take a moment to wish each and every one of you a safe and

Re: [PHP] PHP telnet server

2008-12-30 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Luke Slater wrote: Hi everyone, A quick read over Stevens` A.P.U.E. and UNIX Network Programing Vol. 1 should familarize you with multi-threaded TCP/IP daemon development. ~BAS 1. http://www.kohala.com/start/apue.html -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/

[PHP] PHP telnet server

2008-12-30 Thread Luke Slater
Hi everyone, I'm trying to rewrite an old MUD in PHP; the reasons for this are that the original is written in C and most files in the codebase run over 2000 lines with at least 20 of them, which makes it very hard to change anything. Plus, the web interface is also written in C, and needles

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Eric Butera wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Robert Cummings > wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 12:53 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Nathan Nobbe > >> > >> I was following the blog tutorial on cake and here's what I got

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 12:53 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Nathan Nobbe >> >> I was following the blog tutorial on cake and here's what I got from >> hitting the post/index page: >> >> 081230 12:51:55

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 12:53 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Nathan Nobbe > > > > I was following the blog tutorial on cake and here's what I got from > > hitting the post/index page: > > > > 081230 12:51:55

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 12:53 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Nathan Nobbe > > I was following the blog tutorial on cake and here's what I got from > hitting the post/index page: > > 081230 12:51:55 316 Connect r...@localhost on > 316 Ini

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 12:15 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > >> on 12/30/2008 01:13 AM Sancar Saran said the following: > >> > and please read this why > >> > > >> > http://talks.php.net/show/drupal08/0 > > it also acts as a nice control mechanism

Re: [PHP] Re: Webhotel structure

2008-12-30 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 17:44 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/30 Peter Sorensen : > > Peter, the list had a laugh at your expense, as you used some > incorrect words in what turned out to be a funny manner for those > fluent in English. > > 1) "Webhotel" is called "web hosting" in English. > 2)

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Eric Butera wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Nathan Nobbe >> wrote: >> >> on 12/30/2008 01:13 AM Sancar Saran said the following: >> >> > and please read this why >> >> > >> >> > http://tal

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Eric Butera wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Nathan Nobbe > wrote: > >> on 12/30/2008 01:13 AM Sancar Saran said the following: > >> > and please read this why > >> > > >> > http://talks.php.net/show/drupal08/0 > > it also acts as a nice control mechani

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: >> on 12/30/2008 01:13 AM Sancar Saran said the following: >> > and please read this why >> > >> > http://talks.php.net/show/drupal08/0 > it also acts as a nice control mechanism to compare so many frameworks, > trivial php, and html. really ni

Re: [PHP] Re: Webhotel structure

2008-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/12/30 Peter Sorensen : > Hi Carlos Thanks for trying to help. > > As a newbie on web design I was looking for help on about everythink, as a > newbie you don't know which questions to ask. > > With help from other sources I found out how to wipe my webhotel and start > over. > After a fresh in

[PHP] Re: Webhotel structure

2008-12-30 Thread Carlos Medina
Peter Sorensen schrieb: Hi Carlos Thanks for trying to help. As a newbie on web design I was looking for help on about everythink, as a newbie you don't know which questions to ask. With help from other sources I found out how to wipe my webhotel and start over. After a fresh install of cop

[PHP] Re: Webhotel structure

2008-12-30 Thread Peter Sorensen
Hi Carlos Thanks for trying to help. As a newbie on web design I was looking for help on about everythink, as a newbie you don't know which questions to ask. With help from other sources I found out how to wipe my webhotel and start over. After a fresh install of coppermin I still had proble

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > > plus did you see the part about 'cleaning up the include path'. moving to > require at the outer layer and as far in as possible, basically. thats a > really good idea, and it looks like this 'includes' extension > lol, its 'inclued' dumm

Re: [PHP] Webhotel structure

2008-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/12/28 tedd : >>> So I would prefer to remove everythink and start all over . > > He's talking about everythink. Whenever I do that, I have problems too. > Interestingly enough, today I opened Dan Kegel's (of Wine fame) website and was greeted with this: "Dan Kegel's Web Hostel" -- Dotan Co

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Manuel Lemos wrote: > Hello, > > on 12/30/2008 05:07 AM Nathan Nobbe said the following: > How do you structure your web applications? I am thinking in terms of > separating presentation and logic. How is that done in PHP? And how > many architect