Re: [PHP] PHP: a fractal of bad design

2012-04-12 Thread Simon Schick
2012/4/12 Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com: http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ Can't say he doesn't have some good points, but he sure goes about it in a dickish way. Hi, Daevid I think this discussion is incomplete without mentioning the feedback from Anthony

Re: [PHP] PHP: a fractal of bad design

2012-04-12 Thread ma...@behnke.biz
Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com hat am 12. April 2012 um 02:06 geschrieben: http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ Can't say he doesn't have some good points, but he sure goes about it in a dickish way. Well, he only says what everybody knows. So there is no new

[PHP] Flat PHP projects and Firebug

2012-04-12 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
Hi all, For flat PHP projects (I mean without framework such as Jelix or Symfony), what Firebug logging tooldo you recommend to use? - FirePHP? - in-the-code Javascript console.log() generation? - other tools? These are for training project, not really real-world ones, in order to train

Re: [PHP] Flat PHP projects and Firebug

2012-04-12 Thread Louis Huppenbauer
2012/4/12 Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org Hi all, For flat PHP projects (I mean without framework such as Jelix or Symfony), what Firebug logging tooldo you recommend to use? - FirePHP? - in-the-code Javascript console.log() generation? - other tools? These are for training

Re: [PHP] Flat PHP projects and Firebug

2012-04-12 Thread Kranthi Krishna
I never had a problem with FirePHP. Among other tools I have used, some gave Headers already sent problem. The rest failed in case of AJAX requests. AFAIR Breakpoints are used for debugging and are different from Logging. For debugging you may have a look at xDebug Kranthi. http://goo.gl/e6t3

[PHP] Re: PHP: a fractal of bad design

2012-04-12 Thread Ross McKay
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:06:10 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ Can't say he doesn't have some good points, but he sure goes about it in a dickish way. There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones