Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-20 Thread Richard Lynch
On Fri, April 20, 2007 3:19 am, Jochem Maas wrote: > Richard Lynch wrote: >> On Thu, April 19, 2007 2:25 am, Roman Neuhauser wrote: >>> I'm at a complete loss then. Richard, what would you advise to >>> someone >>> in such a messy situation? >> >> I don't really see why anybody is getting bent out

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-20 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2007-04-20 10:19:04 +0200: > Richard Lynch wrote: > > On Thu, April 19, 2007 2:25 am, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > >> I'm at a complete loss then. Richard, what would you advise to someone > >> in such a messy situation? > > > > I don't really see why anybody is getting bent out

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-20 Thread Jochem Maas
Richard Lynch wrote: > On Thu, April 19, 2007 2:25 am, Roman Neuhauser wrote: >> I'm at a complete loss then. Richard, what would you advise to someone >> in such a messy situation? > > I don't really see why anybody is getting bent out of shape about > 'almostatic' methods in PHP, but if they're

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-19 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, April 19, 2007 2:25 am, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > I'm at a complete loss then. Richard, what would you advise to someone > in such a messy situation? I don't really see why anybody is getting bent out of shape about 'almostatic' methods in PHP, but if they're maybe gonna go away, roll out t

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-19 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2007-04-19 10:50:19 +0200: > Roman Neuhauser wrote: > >>> I wouldn't do it that way. A single class should not be a database > >>> driver *and* manage connections. > >> fair enough, although personally I find that going a bit far, I don't > >> see the win in splitting up the '

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-19 Thread Jochem Maas
Roman Neuhauser wrote: ... > > You'll have to change the code. I'm suggesting a nice clean way that'll > not only conform to the probable rules of PHP 6 (which are not specific > to PHP, at least static is not), but that'll also conform to the rules > of good design. You're saying the changes

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-19 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2007-04-19 02:19:14 +0200: > Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2007-04-18 11:54:59 +0200: > >> but a practical question for you Roman (seeing as your very much > >> into OOP), > > > > I'm not very much into OOP, I'm very much into programming techniques > > tha

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-18 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, April 18, 2007 4:27 am, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2007-04-18 04:59:48 -0400: >> >So only one of these is "kosher" >> >static: >> >return Services_JSON::decode($data); >> > >> >class: >> >$json = new Services_JSON; >> >return $json->decode($data); >> >but not both. >> >>

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-18 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, April 18, 2007 3:59 am, Chris Boget wrote: >> So only one of these is "kosher" >> static: >> return Services_JSON::decode($data); >> >> class: >> $json = new Services_JSON; >> return $json->decode($data); >> but not both. > > I'm not trying to start (or further add fuel to) any kind of war

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-18 Thread Jochem Maas
Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2007-04-18 11:54:59 +0200: >> Roman Neuhauser wrote: >>> That's an incident waiting to happen, and forbidding static calls of >>> instance methods is an (intended) anti-footshooting measure. >> nothing an isset($this) didn't/doesn't solve - they gave m

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-18 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2007-04-18 11:54:59 +0200: > Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > That's an incident waiting to happen, and forbidding static calls of > > instance methods is an (intended) anti-footshooting measure. > > nothing an isset($this) didn't/doesn't solve - they gave me the php gun, so > let

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-18 Thread Tijnema !
On 4/17/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, April 16, 2007 10:20 am, Tijnema ! wrote: > And btw, I think it's better not to create a new link to the class > each time the function is called, but just use :: > if (!function_exists('json_encode')) { >function json_encode($d

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-18 Thread Jochem Maas
Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2007-04-18 04:59:48 -0400: >>> So only one of these is "kosher" >>> static: >>> return Services_JSON::decode($data); >>> >>> class: >>> $json = new Services_JSON; >>> return $json->decode($data); >>> but not both. >> I'm not trying to start (or further

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-18 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2007-04-18 04:59:48 -0400: > >So only one of these is "kosher" > >static: > >return Services_JSON::decode($data); > > > >class: > >$json = new Services_JSON; > >return $json->decode($data); > >but not both. > > I'm not trying to start (or further add fuel to) any kind of war

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-18 Thread Chris Boget
So only one of these is "kosher" static: return Services_JSON::decode($data); class: $json = new Services_JSON; return $json->decode($data); but not both. I'm not trying to start (or further add fuel to) any kind of war but instead an earnest question: why not both? thnx, Chris -- PHP Gen

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-18 Thread Jochem Maas
Richard Lynch wrote: > On Tue, April 17, 2007 4:40 pm, Jochem Maas wrote: >> Richard Lynch wrote: > > So only one of these is "kosher" > static: > return Services_JSON::decode($data); > > class: > $json = new Services_JSON; > return $json->decode($data); > > but not both. ah yes that hol

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-17 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, April 17, 2007 4:40 pm, Jochem Maas wrote: > Richard Lynch wrote: >> On Mon, April 16, 2007 10:20 am, Tijnema ! wrote: >>> And btw, I think it's better not to create a new link to the class >>> each time the function is called, but just use :: >>> if (!function_exists('json_encode')) { >>>

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-17 Thread Jochem Maas
Richard Lynch wrote: > On Mon, April 16, 2007 10:20 am, Tijnema ! wrote: >> And btw, I think it's better not to create a new link to the class >> each time the function is called, but just use :: >> if (!function_exists('json_encode')) { >>function json_encode($data) { >>ret

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-16 Thread Richard Lynch
On Mon, April 16, 2007 10:20 am, Tijnema ! wrote: > And btw, I think it's better not to create a new link to the class > each time the function is called, but just use :: > if (!function_exists('json_encode')) { >function json_encode($data) { >return Services_JSON::encode($d

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-16 Thread Richard Lynch
On Mon, April 16, 2007 9:33 am, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2007-04-16 14:03:55 +0200: >> Jochem Maas wrote: >> > >> >that's going to make it completely impossible to use then isn't it. >> >no way you could possibly wrap the class/objects functionality in a >> wrapper >> >functio

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-16 Thread Richard Lynch
On Sat, April 14, 2007 3:11 am, Otto Wyss wrote: > I've seen a json.php file somewhere in a project for cases where the > json module isn't installed (e.g. PHP4), yet I can't find that project > again. Is there an official or unofficial download site for json.php? > > Why isn't this available in th

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-16 Thread Tijnema !
On 4/16/07, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Otto Wyss wrote: > Tijnema ! wrote: >> >> *ROFLMFAO*...Did you actually try google for json.php? >> Second result: >> http://mike.teczno.com/JSON/JSON.phps >> > This doesn't have a json_encode but needs a $json object which then > could be used a

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-16 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 10:49 -0400, tedd wrote: >> At 8:41 AM -0500 4/16/07, Philip Thompson wrote: >>> On Apr 16, 2007, at 4:40 AM, Jochem Maas wrote: >>> Otto Wyss wrote: > Tijnema ! wrote: >> *ROFLMFAO*...Did you actually try google for json.php? >> Secon

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-16 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 10:49 -0400, tedd wrote: > At 8:41 AM -0500 4/16/07, Philip Thompson wrote: > >On Apr 16, 2007, at 4:40 AM, Jochem Maas wrote: > > > >>Otto Wyss wrote: > >>>Tijnema ! wrote: > > *ROFLMFAO*...Did you actually try google for json.php? > Second result: > http://m

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-16 Thread tedd
At 8:41 AM -0500 4/16/07, Philip Thompson wrote: On Apr 16, 2007, at 4:40 AM, Jochem Maas wrote: Otto Wyss wrote: Tijnema ! wrote: *ROFLMFAO*...Did you actually try google for json.php? Second result: http://mike.teczno.com/JSON/JSON.phps This doesn't have a json_encode but needs a $json o

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-16 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2007-04-16 14:03:55 +0200: > Jochem Maas wrote: > > > >that's going to make it completely impossible to use then isn't it. > >no way you could possibly wrap the class/objects functionality in a wrapper > >function. > > > At the moment it's sufficient, since I've now time to fi

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-16 Thread Philip Thompson
On Apr 16, 2007, at 4:40 AM, Jochem Maas wrote: Otto Wyss wrote: Tijnema ! wrote: *ROFLMFAO*...Did you actually try google for json.php? Second result: http://mike.teczno.com/JSON/JSON.phps This doesn't have a json_encode but needs a $json object which then could be used as $json->encode(..

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-16 Thread Otto Wyss
Jochem Maas wrote: that's going to make it completely impossible to use then isn't it. no way you could possibly wrap the class/objects functionality in a wrapper function. At the moment it's sufficient, since I've now time to figure out how the Json package can be installed. Then I can switch

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-16 Thread Jochem Maas
Otto Wyss wrote: > Tijnema ! wrote: >> >> *ROFLMFAO*...Did you actually try google for json.php? >> Second result: >> http://mike.teczno.com/JSON/JSON.phps >> > This doesn't have a json_encode but needs a $json object which then > could be used as $json->encode(...). Thanks anyway. that's going to

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-15 Thread Otto Wyss
Satyam wrote: www.json.org lists all json resources in any language you care to think of. I must admit I haven't checked each reference but the ones I have have only packages to install and not a PHP source. Maybe I wasn't clear when asking. O. Wyss -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.p

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-15 Thread Otto Wyss
Tijnema ! wrote: *ROFLMFAO*...Did you actually try google for json.php? Second result: http://mike.teczno.com/JSON/JSON.phps This doesn't have a json_encode but needs a $json object which then could be used as $json->encode(...). Thanks anyway. O. Wyss -- PHP General Mailing List (http://ww

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-14 Thread Satyam
www.json.org lists all json resources in any language you care to think of. Satyam - Original Message - From: "Otto Wyss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:11 AM Subject: [PHP] Json.php I've seen a json.php file

Re: [PHP] Json.php

2007-04-14 Thread Tijnema !
On 4/14/07, Otto Wyss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've seen a json.php file somewhere in a project for cases where the json module isn't installed (e.g. PHP4), yet I can't find that project again. Is there an official or unofficial download site for json.php? Why isn't this available in the PHP m

[PHP] Json.php

2007-04-14 Thread Otto Wyss
I've seen a json.php file somewhere in a project for cases where the json module isn't installed (e.g. PHP4), yet I can't find that project again. Is there an official or unofficial download site for json.php? Why isn't this available in the PHP manual (http://ch2.php.net/manual/de/ref.json.ph