On Sep 7, 2010, at 12:47 AM, Robert Cummings wrote:
On 10-09-07 01:21 AM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
@Jagdeep Singh
Hi Jagdeep,
I know it has been a while now, but I thought I'd let you know.
Setting up a database with a session login and some checks and
balances will allow you to do
what you
@Jagdeep Singh
Hi Jagdeep,
I know it has been a while now, but I thought I'd let you know.
Setting up a database with a session login and some checks and
balances will allow you to do
what you were wanting with controlling a user using multiple browsers
on the same machine.
I just finished
On 10-09-07 01:21 AM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
@Jagdeep Singh
Hi Jagdeep,
I know it has been a while now, but I thought I'd let you know.
Setting up a database with a session login and some checks and
balances will allow you to do
what you were wanting with controlling a user using multiple
Karl,
Which app are you talking about?
Regards,
Shreyas
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.comwrote:
Hey,
I just found this app that I think will do your single user login. It is a
MySQL monitoring app called MySQL Query Analyzer. It has the functionality I
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 16:52 +0530, Shreyas Agasthya wrote:
Karl,
Which app are you talking about?
Regards,
Shreyas
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.comwrote:
Hey,
I just found this app that I think will do your single user login. It is a
MySQL
On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 16:52 +0530, Shreyas Agasthya wrote:
Karl,
Which app are you talking about?
Regards,
Shreyas
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Karl DeSaulniers
k...@designdrumm.comwrote:
Hey,
I just found this app that I think
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 07:04 -0500, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 16:52 +0530, Shreyas Agasthya wrote:
Karl,
Which app are you talking about?
Regards,
Shreyas
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Karl
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On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:08 AM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 07:04 -0500, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 16:52 +0530, Shreyas Agasthya wrote:
Karl,
Which app
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 12:37 -0500, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
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On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:08 AM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 07:04 -0500, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Tue,
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wrote:
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On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:08 AM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 07:04 -0500, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
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a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 12:37 -0500, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
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On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 12:51 -0500, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
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a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 12:37 -0500, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
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On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 12:51 -0500, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
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On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 12:37 -0500, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
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Hey,
I just found this app that I think will do your single user login. It
is a MySQL monitoring app called MySQL Query Analyzer. It has the
functionality I think you were looking for. Might be worth a look-see.
:))
Hth,
Karl
What about creating a java or ajax proxy that verifies the system
mixed with PHP login security and cookies?
Maybe mix it with some SSL??
Karl
On May 22, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
I am going to ask my flash guru buddies.
Let me see if I can find anything out.
Karl
On
Also, on the flash subject, I believe you can utilize the
SharedObject class to achieve what they are wanting.
I was told that you MUST remember to delete the SharedObject if the
browser window is closed or crashes.
Not sure on how this is done.
Karl
On May 23, 2010, at 3:59 AM, Karl
A virtual machine is like a separate computer, but running in the same
computer. It would easily thwart this.
Cheers,
Rob.
Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
What about creating a java or ajax proxy that verifies the system
mixed with PHP login security and cookies?
Maybe mix it with some SSL??
See comment on virtual machine :) But even without a virtual machine, is
this SharedObject saved in a browser determined location, or does the
flash app get a say on where it wants to go. Is it shared between flash
apps in same browser, or shared across all browsers on same machine.
Cheers,
Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
can't be done I'm afraid, no matter how hard you look - there is
*always* a way around it.
only thing you can do is in certain situations ensure that whatever
important 'act' is carried out is limited to a fixed person with some
personally identifiable data; for
quick confirm: flash won't help you here (nor java, ajax,
virtualisation, client side programs, ip filtering, browser detection) -
it's not possible I'm afraid; best you can do is limit with personally
identifiable information and trust that users won't be sharing an
account which has
Hi Nathan,
The problem is not mine to speak of necessarily. I was trying to help
find a solution for another.
But from what I understand, they have a online lesson that they dont
want people to be able to log in as another user and get the answers to.
Here is the their post.
On May 14,
Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
Hi Nathan,
The problem is not mine to speak of necessarily. I was trying to help
find a solution for another.
But from what I understand, they have a online lesson that they dont
want people to be able to log in as another user and get the answers to.
Here is the
I was given a solution, or a work-around. You will have to use flash,
but,
you can set up a LocalConnection class that determines if the swf is
being run on the same system and if it is boot one.
You have the LocalConnection class send out a message to itself and
if it answers itself, then
You may still have trouble with virtual machines though.
Karl
On May 23, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
I was given a solution, or a work-around. You will have to use
flash, but,
you can set up a LocalConnection class that determines if the swf
is being run on the same system
I was also told that you can use Adobe Air to control this as well.
Air only allows one copy per machine to run originally.
Here is a link to set it to run multiple copies. You can use this to
see how to set it up and figure a way to not let yours. If that is
the route you take.
The consensus I have been getting is that there really is no way to
block this type of activity,
BUT you can make it difficult enough to deter most attempts.
Karl
On May 23, 2010, at 9:42 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
I was also told that you can use Adobe Air to control this as well.
Air
Yeah. Don't be concerned about which browser. Just set up an active
users table in your database that gets checked at login. Then it
doesn't matter which machine or browser. Unless you know that the
computers are giving the true ip, there is no way to keep a user from
logging in with two
This was beaten to death last week. The solution is not possible because
it's not about restricting a single user from logging over multiple
machines, it about restricting a single computer to only one session (so
running IE, Firefox, Opera, Safari on same computer with different users
would
On May 22, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
This was beaten to death last week. The solution is not possible
because it's not about restricting a single user from logging over
multiple machines, it about restricting a single computer to only
one session (so running IE, Firefox,
On May 22, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Brandon Rampersad wrote:
These third world internet providers are screwing up the IP address
system with their shared IPs which defeats the entire purpose of an
IP address.
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Karl DeSaulniers
k...@designdrumm.com wrote:
On May
Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
On May 22, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
This was beaten to death last week. The solution is not possible
because it's not about restricting a single user from logging over
multiple machines, it about restricting a single computer to only
one session (so
Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
Duley noted, but the combo of tracking ips and cookies on computers
should still work.
If you are checking the ip against ALL users, if two users in the
active database have the same ip,
then whichever has the older timestamp stays and the new one gets
booted.
And
Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
On May 22, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Brandon Rampersad wrote:
These third world internet providers are screwing up the IP address
system with their shared IPs which defeats the entire purpose of an
IP address.
I missed this bit... actually, this is less a third world issue
Well you could alway build it as an Adobe AIR app.
Then it would be its own application. Not viewed through a browser.
Karl
On May 22, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
Yeah, but flash is proprietary and I for one hate hitting flash
websites.
Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
But then I don't get to use worldwide accepted and open standards for
development.
Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
Well you could alway build it as an Adobe AIR app.
Then it would be its own application. Not viewed through a browser.
Karl
On May 22, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
Wow. I'm going to stay away from that one. I'm just trying to help
this guy secure his learning API and that would be one way to insure
that two browsers were not logged in on the same system. Especially if
you weren't using a browser in the first place.
Have you ever programed in flash?
Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
Wow. I'm going to stay away from that one. I'm just trying to help
this guy secure his learning API and that would be one way to insure
that two browsers were not logged in on the same system. Especially if
you weren't using a browser in the first place.
Have you
Robert Cummings wrote:
Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
Wow. I'm going to stay away from that one. I'm just trying to help
this guy secure his learning API and that would be one way to insure
that two browsers were not logged in on the same system. Especially if
you weren't using a browser in the
I am going to ask my flash guru buddies.
Let me see if I can find anything out.
Karl
On May 22, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
Robert Cummings wrote:
Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
Wow. I'm going to stay away from that one. I'm just trying to
help this guy secure his learning API and
On Friday 14 May 2010 12:48 PM, Jagdeep Singh wrote:
Hi All!
I am looking for a solution, I want a user to do a single Login only on a PC
.
E.g. If a User has logged on my website website.com in Internet explorer,
then he cant login on same website in another browser like Firefox etc with
Hi!
Thanks for all the replies... But may of the solutions are not for my
question.
Friends!
E.g. : If user1 has logged in Internet Explorer on IP adress (Say IP - A)
with MAC Adress (MAC-X)
Then No other user can login on that IP (IP-A) AND MAC Adress (MAC-X) on any
other browser say Firefox.
Jagdeep Singh wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for all the replies... But may of the solutions are not for my
question.
Friends!
E.g. : If user1 has logged in Internet Explorer on IP adress (Say IP - A)
with MAC Adress (MAC-X)
Then No other user can login on that IP (IP-A) AND MAC Adress (MAC-X) on any
Jagdeep Singh wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for all the replies... But may of the solutions are not for my
question.
But I am unable to stop Multiple logins on same machine (ofcourse on
different Browsers) Because each browser has different SESSION and Cookie
system.
As I have already said ... you
I am working on e-learning module...
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.comwrote:
Jagdeep Singh wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for all the replies... But may of the solutions are not for my
question.
Friends!
E.g. : If user1 has logged in Internet Explorer on IP
Jagdeep Singh wrote:
How can I define Machine?
That IS the problem. As with a lot of this stuff - nothing was ever actually
DESIGNED to work :( So $_SERVER[REMOTE_ADDR] will block multiple machines if
they are sharing the one connection. I've been lucky so far in that
'REMOTE_ADDR' CAN be
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 08:18 +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
Jagdeep Singh wrote:
How can I define Machine?
That IS the problem. As with a lot of this stuff - nothing was ever actually
DESIGNED to work :( So $_SERVER[REMOTE_ADDR] will block multiple machines
if
they are sharing the one
This was bounced back to the list because of the php crap of needing to use
'reply all' - I SHOULD have used 'reply' in this case as jagdeep's email was to
ME, but I automatically 'reply all' and replace return address with the list
email to kill off all the extras!
Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 11:50 +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
This was bounced back to the list because of the php crap of needing to use
'reply all' - I SHOULD have used 'reply' in this case as jagdeep's email was
to
ME, but I automatically 'reply all' and replace return address with the list
Ashley Sheridan wrote:
I see exactly the issue you have now, and there's no way round it. You
can't identify a single machine in the way you want.
Maybe you could restrict access to test answer materials to a user who
is logged in, and then lock them out when a test is in progress for
their
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.comwrote:
Ashley Sheridan wrote:
I see exactly the issue you have now, and there's no way round it. You
can't identify a single machine in the way you want.
Maybe you could restrict access to test answer materials to a user
Hi All!
I am looking for a solution, I want a user to do a single Login only on a PC
.
E.g. If a User has logged on my website website.com in Internet explorer,
then he cant login on same website in another browser like Firefox etc with
same loginid or another.
Can I trace MAC address of a
Hi Jagdeep,
I would make an active users table in your database that the
username gets loaded into on successful login
and in your login script also check this table before letting them
log in.
Karl
On May 14, 2010, at 2:18 AM, Jagdeep Singh wrote:
Hi All!
I am looking for a solution,
Jagdeep Singh wrote:
Hi All!
I am looking for a solution, I want a user to do a single Login only on a PC
.
E.g. If a User has logged on my website website.com in Internet explorer,
then he cant login on same website in another browser like Firefox etc with
same loginid or another.
Can I
Just remember to remove them from this table on log out.
Karl
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On May 14, 2010, at 2:23 AM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com
wrote:
Hi Jagdeep,
I would make an active users table in your database that the
username gets loaded into on successful login
and in your
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Jagdeep Singh wrote:
Hi All!
I am looking for a solution, I want a user to do a single Login only on a
PC
.
E.g. If a User has logged on my website website.com in Internet explorer,
then he cant login on same
On 14 May 2010 09:29, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Jagdeep Singh wrote:
Hi All!
I am looking for a solution, I want a user to do a single Login only on a
PC
.
E.g. If a User has logged on my website website.com in Internet explorer,
then he cant login on same website in another
Hi,
yes, I can make a databse table to record LOGIN details, But I want that No
other user can login on same machine on smae or another browser.
E.g.
If user1 has logged in from IE then user2 should not login from Firefox or
Chrome etc..
I need ONLY ONE USER ACCESS AT SAME TIME ON SAME MACHINE
Jagdeep Singh wrote:
Hi,
yes, I can make a databse table to record LOGIN details, But I want that
No other user can login on same machine on smae or another browser.
E.g.
If user1 has logged in from IE then user2 should not login from Firefox
or Chrome etc..
I need ONLY ONE USER ACCESS AT SAME
You lost me on that one.
You want it so that multiple users can log in, but they have to be on
separate browsers?
Karl
On May 14, 2010, at 3:26 AM, Jagdeep Singh wrote:
Hi,
yes, I can make a databse table to record LOGIN details, But I want
that No
other user can login on same
Hi J,
Well, if you have an active users table with a users name in it and
you check when logging in to see if that users name is in that table,
They can not log in again. No matter what machine or browser they are
in.
As far as another user logging in on that same machine, you could
match
Only other thing I could think of is a session timeout.
Because if two people are using the same computer, one person is
going to be away long enough to time out.
HTH
Karl
On May 14, 2010, at 4:21 AM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
Hi J,
Well, if you have an active users table with a users
On 14 May 2010 08:18, Jagdeep Singh jagsaini1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All!
I am looking for a solution, I want a user to do a single Login only on a PC
.
E.g. If a User has logged on my website website.com in Internet explorer,
then he cant login on same website in another browser like
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 04:26 -0500, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
Only other thing I could think of is a session timeout.
Because if two people are using the same computer, one person is
going to be away long enough to time out.
HTH
Karl
On May 14, 2010, at 4:21 AM, Karl DeSaulniers
Web servers can only identify computers, not users. You will need
something else to track which user started a specific application on a
particular computer, probably a fingerprint scanner next to the
keyboard. But that won't prevent someone else from replacing the entity
between the keyboard and
On May 14, 2010, at 3:18 AM, Jagdeep Singh wrote:
Hi All!
I am looking for a solution, I want a user to do a single Login only on a PC
.
E.g. If a User has logged on my website website.com in Internet explorer,
then he cant login on same website in another browser like Firefox etc with
Bob McConnell wrote:
Web servers can only identify computers, not users. You will need
something else to track which user started a specific application on a
particular computer, probably a fingerprint scanner next to the
keyboard. But that won't prevent someone else from replacing the entity
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Jagdeep Singh jagsaini1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All!
I am looking for a solution, I want a user to do a single Login only on a PC
.
E.g. If a User has logged on my website website.com in Internet explorer,
then he cant login on same website in another browser
From: Robert Cummings
Bob McConnell wrote:
Web servers can only identify computers, not users. You will need
something else to track which user started a specific application on
a
particular computer, probably a fingerprint scanner next to the
keyboard. But that won't prevent someone else
On 14 May 2010 14:47, Bob McConnell r...@cbord.com wrote:
Actually, I believe that linking a session to a specific individual
without reading a biometric key with every http request is an
unacceptable risk. And no, I don't do any banking online.
Bob McConnell
That's why my bank has supplied
From: Richard Quadling
On 14 May 2010 14:47, Bob McConnell r...@cbord.com wrote:
Actually, I believe that linking a session to a specific individual
without reading a biometric key with every http request is an
unacceptable risk. And no, I don't do any banking online.
That's why my bank has
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 10:26 -0400, Bob McConnell wrote:
From: Richard Quadling
On 14 May 2010 14:47, Bob McConnell r...@cbord.com wrote:
Actually, I believe that linking a session to a specific individual
without reading a biometric key with every http request is an
unacceptable risk.
Hello Jagdeep,
I think that using the user table will fix your first problem of having
a single user tied to a browser for the same machine or even a different
machine. Once logged in that same user cannot login again.
For your second issue, I do not think is possible to keep track of
On 14 May 2010 15:26, Bob McConnell r...@cbord.com wrote:
From: Richard Quadling
On 14 May 2010 14:47, Bob McConnell r...@cbord.com wrote:
Actually, I believe that linking a session to a specific individual
without reading a biometric key with every http request is an
unacceptable risk. And
At 12:48 PM +0530 5/14/10, Jagdeep Singh wrote:
Hi All!
I am looking for a solution, I want a user to do a single Login only on a PC
.
E.g. If a User has logged on my website website.com in Internet explorer,
then he cant login on same website in another browser like Firefox etc with
same
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