Re: [PHP] Server-Side Speech --- New Project Discussion (PHP/C++ Developers?)

2007-04-27 Thread tedd
At 3:53 PM -0400 4/26/07, Daniel Brown wrote: Anyone who's interested in jumping on, let me know. We may not create a PHP-based TTS system, but we can do the next best thing. Besides, everything has to start somewhere! Daniel: But of course, you can count me in -- after all, I started

Re: [PHP] Server-Side Speech --- New Project Discussion (PHP/C++ Developers?)

2007-04-27 Thread Daniel Brown
That's what I'm going to try to do, Tedd. I'll post updates throughout the day to include the new mailing list address and such (so we're not flooding the PHP list with stuff about a specific project) and other relevant information. On 4/27/07, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 3:53 PM

Re: [PHP] Server-Side Speech --- New Project Discussion (PHP/C++ Developers?)

2007-04-27 Thread Daniel Brown
Even beyond the scope of what this small project will be, I was thinking (for once!) that it probably will not be too horribly difficult to incorporate some code into PHP itself that would allow functions such as text2wav(), et al. After all, the Festival TTS engine itself, which we'll be

Re: [PHP] Server-Side Speech --- New Project Discussion (PHP/C++ Developers?)

2007-04-27 Thread Tijnema !
On 4/27/07, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even beyond the scope of what this small project will be, I was thinking (for once!) that it probably will not be too horribly difficult to incorporate some code into PHP itself that would allow functions such as text2wav(), et al. After all,

Re: [PHP] Server-Side Speech --- New Project Discussion (PHP/C++ Developers?)

2007-04-27 Thread Daniel Brown
Okay, anyone interested in joining the project can subscribe to the official mailing list (sounds fancy!) set up for the project at: http://isawit.com/mailman/listinfo/php-vox I'm looking forward to getting into discussions and debates, and getting the project off the ground. On

Re: [PHP] Server-Side Speech --- New Project Discussion (PHP/C++ Developers?)

2007-04-27 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, April 26, 2007 2:53 pm, Daniel Brown wrote: As a result of an ongoing thread, I am launching a project that should allow users on shared hosting accounts and other restricted Unix-like hosting systems to utilize text-to-speech synthesis, primarily the Festival TTS engine. The

Re: [PHP] Server-Side Speech --- New Project Discussion (PHP/C++ Developers?)

2007-04-27 Thread Richard Lynch
On Fri, April 27, 2007 11:00 am, Daniel Brown wrote: Even beyond the scope of what this small project will be, I was thinking (for once!) that it probably will not be too horribly difficult to incorporate some code into PHP itself that would allow functions such as text2wav(), et al.

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-27 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, April 25, 2007 7:10 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 16:26 -0500, Richard Lynch wrote: On Wed, April 25, 2007 3:27 pm, Daniel Brown wrote: That's fine if you can find a shared host (as the OP states he's using) that's willing to install it on their servers.

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-27 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 15:44 -0500, Richard Lynch wrote: On Wed, April 25, 2007 7:10 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 16:26 -0500, Richard Lynch wrote: On Wed, April 25, 2007 3:27 pm, Daniel Brown wrote: That's fine if you can find a shared host (as the OP states he's

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-26 Thread tedd
At 4:25 PM -0400 4/25/07, Brad Bonkoski wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: Tedd, On all of the *nix boxes I use (and have used) I've had to install Festival manually, so I would definitely not say that it's commonly found on there especially for a server configuration. But it IS commonly

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-26 Thread tedd
At 7:24 PM -0400 4/25/07, Justin Frim wrote: Perhaps lightly off-topic, I had to make a quick audio CAPTCHA to complement a visual one for a web site. I was thinking of having a server-side TTS system, but that just became too big a can of worms for the size of the project. I also had the

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-26 Thread Daniel Brown
No, I meant a dedicated server that you lease in a datacenter, not one that you'd have to be responsible for in your own home. I had Comcast cable Internet, too my speeds were actually pretty good (in northeast Pennsylvania) with them and Adelphia, whom they bought out last year. About

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-26 Thread Justin Frim
tedd wrote: However, I did run my audio captcha by a couple dozen _visually impaired_ testers... ..snip... ...it's interesting to see what _they see_. nothing? ;-) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-26 Thread Daniel Brown
Heh crude, but it made me smile. On 4/26/07, Justin Frim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tedd wrote: However, I did run my audio captcha by a couple dozen _visually impaired_ testers... ..snip... ...it's interesting to see what _they see_. nothing? ;-) -- PHP General Mailing List

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-26 Thread tedd
At 10:44 AM -0400 4/26/07, Daniel Brown wrote: No, I meant a dedicated server that you lease in a datacenter, not one that you'd have to be responsible for in your own home. I had Comcast cable Internet, too my speeds were actually pretty good (in northeast Pennsylvania) with them and

[PHP] Server-Side Speech --- New Project Discussion (PHP/C++ Developers?)

2007-04-26 Thread Daniel Brown
As a result of an ongoing thread, I am launching a project that should allow users on shared hosting accounts and other restricted Unix-like hosting systems to utilize text-to-speech synthesis, primarily the Festival TTS engine. The goal of the project will be to create a miniature, portable

Re: [PHP] Server-Side Speech --- New Project Discussion (PHP/C++ Developers?)

2007-04-26 Thread Tijnema !
On 4/26/07, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a result of an ongoing thread, I am launching a project that should allow users on shared hosting accounts and other restricted Unix-like hosting systems to utilize text-to-speech synthesis, primarily the Festival TTS engine. The goal of

Re: [PHP] Server-Side Speech --- New Project Discussion (PHP/C++ Developers?)

2007-04-26 Thread Daniel Brown
It's just an open-source project to be done on an at-will, volunteer basis. Once I get the wheels in motion, I'll let you know. For now, I'm still just trying to see if anyone's willing to help out. On 4/26/07, Tijnema ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/26/07, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread tedd
Hi gang: Most text to speech techniques concentrate on making the browser or desktop application do the translation of web text to speech. For example, there are several listed here: http://www.oatsoft.org/Software/listing/Repository However, server-side text to speech is possible by

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, April 25, 2007 2:00 pm, tedd wrote: However, server-side text to speech is possible by delivering the sound to the browser via EMBED or BGSOUND tags -- an example of this can be seen here: I have run Festival server side via PHP to generate audio snippets of spoken word. All you

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Daniel Brown
I had actually done something almost exactly like this as an experiment a few months back at http://isawit.com/tts/login.php. The audio download portion may no longer work, though I can't remember if I removed the code from that specific server or not. It was just for my own fun and

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Robert Cummings
Ditto on Festival. I've used it in the past as a trigger on MUD text to vocalize messages sent by players. Cheers, Rob. On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 15:08 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: I had actually done something almost exactly like this as an experiment a few months back at

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread tedd
At 2:07 PM -0500 4/25/07, Richard Lynch wrote: On Wed, April 25, 2007 2:00 pm, tedd wrote: However, server-side text to speech is possible by delivering the sound to the browser via EMBED or BGSOUND tags -- an example of this can be seen here: I have run Festival server side via PHP to

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Daniel Brown
Tedd, On all of the *nix boxes I use (and have used) I've had to install Festival manually, so I would definitely not say that it's commonly found on there especially for a server configuration. On 4/25/07, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2:07 PM -0500 4/25/07, Richard Lynch

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Brad Bonkoski
Daniel Brown wrote: Tedd, On all of the *nix boxes I use (and have used) I've had to install Festival manually, so I would definitely not say that it's commonly found on there especially for a server configuration. But it IS commonly available, so why not just make it a

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Daniel Brown
That's fine if you can find a shared host (as the OP states he's using) that's willing to install it on their servers. On 4/25/07, Brad Bonkoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: Tedd, On all of the *nix boxes I use (and have used) I've had to install Festival

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Brad Bonkoski
Daniel Brown wrote: That's fine if you can find a shared host (as the OP states he's using) that's willing to install it on their servers. I guess I am just thinking the alternative is creating your own package and using that, which again would force an external entity for the system to

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Daniel Brown
No, that's one of my servers. In all honesty, though, a dedicated server or VPS is so cheap nowadays that it's almost not worth going with a shared host anymore for any real programming. Because if you pay for your own server (this one is less than $60 per month) and administer it yourself

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Daniel Brown
On 4/25/07, Brad Bonkoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unless there is some way for PHP to do text-to-speech translation, which seems way out of scope for a scripting language Give it a couple of years. ;-P -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-)

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, April 25, 2007 3:17 pm, tedd wrote: At 2:07 PM -0500 4/25/07, Richard Lynch wrote: On Wed, April 25, 2007 2:00 pm, tedd wrote: However, server-side text to speech is possible by delivering the sound to the browser via EMBED or BGSOUND tags -- an example of this can be seen here:

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, April 25, 2007 3:27 pm, Daniel Brown wrote: That's fine if you can find a shared host (as the OP states he's using) that's willing to install it on their servers. Or you have a spare computer in your closet that you can install the same OS as the server has, and the you compile the

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Daniel Brown
Tedd, If you want, I'll zip up my compiled binary of Festival for you to try on your system. I'll put it up on one of my servers so that you can download it. I really like Richard's idea of making a PECL component for Festival there's something to look into this weekend --

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, April 25, 2007 3:33 pm, Daniel Brown wrote: On 4/25/07, Brad Bonkoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unless there is some way for PHP to do text-to-speech translation, which seems way out of scope for a scripting language Give it a couple of years. ;-P Somebody somewhere

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Justin Frim
Richard Lynch wrote: If you can compile (or find it compiled) on the exact same OS, you can probably upload the binary and then use 'exec' on your own program. I've had some success doing this on a shared host. You might also be able to convince the webhost to just install Festival for you.

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 16:26 -0500, Richard Lynch wrote: On Wed, April 25, 2007 3:27 pm, Daniel Brown wrote: That's fine if you can find a shared host (as the OP states he's using) that's willing to install it on their servers. Or you have a spare computer in your closet that you can

Re: [PHP] Server side speech

2007-04-25 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 16:17 -0400, tedd wrote: At 2:07 PM -0500 4/25/07, Richard Lynch wrote: On Wed, April 25, 2007 2:00 pm, tedd wrote: However, server-side text to speech is possible by delivering the sound to the browser via EMBED or BGSOUND tags -- an example of this can be seen