RE: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-14 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, February 7, 2008 8:35 pm, Andrés Robinet wrote: > 1 - I believe the fact that we don't "encode" (read "compile") our > scripts is > tightly related to the fact that we don't have a bytecode interpreter > (say JIT > compiler or something?) bundled into PHP. Er. PHP has a bytecode inter

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-11 Thread Greg Donald
On 2/7/08, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because who's to say you're selling to one client? If it's your > Intellectual Property, wouldn't you want to protect it, at least as > much as possible? No, I think protecting software in any way is a waste if resources, especially softwar

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-08 Thread Richard Heyes
> accept the fact that it may get pirated. It may do. But there's nothing wrong with making it as hard as possible to do so. Most people have better things to do than try to reverse engineer a piece of code. Consider: 1. People who buy code will generally do so to solve a problem that they

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-08 Thread Per Jessen
Casey wrote: > > Why not just translate it to C#? Personally I'd just go for C - that way I can just distribute a binary and be done with it. No runtime, no JVM, no mono etc. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsu

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-08 Thread Per Jessen
Greg Donald wrote: > Deductive reasoning leads to two possible options: > > 1) Don't give the code to anyone. > 2) Give the code to the client and accept the fact that it may get > pirated. Yep, that's all there is to it. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)

RE: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-07 Thread Andrés Robinet
> -Original Message- > From: Daniel Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:10 PM > To: Greg Donald > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection > > On Feb 7, 2008 6:20 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PR

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-07 Thread Daniel Brown
On Feb 7, 2008 6:20 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/7/08, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, Greg, I respectfully disagree. First, just because > > there may be ways to reverse-engineer things doesn't mean it's a bad > > idea to attempt to protect your code

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-07 Thread Greg Donald
On 2/7/08, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, Greg, I respectfully disagree. First, just because > there may be ways to reverse-engineer things doesn't mean it's a bad > idea to attempt to protect your code against such. Why would you encode to start with? The only reason I

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-07 Thread Daniel Brown
On Feb 7, 2008 4:56 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/7/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.phprecovery.com/ > > > > Pointless? I think it is exactly the answer to the original persons > > question. > > Yup, it's the exact correct answer, to a pointless que

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-07 Thread Greg Donald
On 2/7/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.phprecovery.com/ > > Pointless? I think it is exactly the answer to the original persons > question. Yup, it's the exact correct answer, to a pointless question. Even Zend knows it's pointless to encode PHP. When you type "decode

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-07 Thread Casey
On Feb 7, 2008 1:50 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg Donald wrote: > > On 2/6/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There's the Zend Encoder at www.zend.com. Though it may be called > >> something else now. > > > > Pointless. > > > > http://www.phprecovery.com/ > > Po

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-07 Thread Richard Heyes
Greg Donald wrote: On 2/6/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There's the Zend Encoder at www.zend.com. Though it may be called something else now. Pointless. http://www.phprecovery.com/ Pointless? I think it is exactly the answer to the original persons question. -- Richard Hey

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-07 Thread Per Jessen
Richard Lynch wrote: > After you get your PHP code all worked out, re-write it as a custom > PHP extension -- or even just the core of it, and send them a .so or > .dll to install. Interesting option. Does require more effort, but if you rewrite the whole thing in C, you might gain some performa

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-07 Thread Per Jessen
John Taylor-Johnston wrote: > I'm not sure where PHP stands on this politically. But I believe in > Open Source, which allows you to encode your code. But why? At heart > I'm a purist GNU. Stallman was right when he first tried to fix a > faulty printer. I too believe in Open Source, but there ar

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-06 Thread John Taylor-Johnston
a nest of hornets. :p C.R.Vegelin wrote: See also: http://www.ioncube.com/ - Original Message - From: "Bastien Koert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Zoran Bogdanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP So

[PHP] Roadsend (was Re: PHP Source code protection)

2008-02-06 Thread Bruce Cowin
>>> zerof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/02/2008 12:04 p.m. >>> Try Roadsend, now as Open Source: http://www.roadsend.com/home/index.php?SMC=1&pageID=compiler Hey, that looks cool. Do many people use this? Has anyone built any standalone GUI apps with it? Regards, Bruce -- PHP General Mailing

[PHP] Re: PHP Source code protection

2008-02-06 Thread zerof
Zoran Bogdanov escreveu: Hi, I'm building a C# application that connects to a server that has PHP scripts on it. We need to deliver the complete solution to a firm, the C# is no problem because it is compiled... But PHP is a problem bacause it is interpreted and we will have to deliver pu

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-06 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, February 6, 2008 5:28 am, Zoran Bogdanov wrote: > I'm building a C# application that connects to a server that has PHP > scripts > on it. > > We need to deliver the complete solution to a firm, the C# is no > problem > because it is compiled... > > But PHP is a problem bacause it is interpr

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-06 Thread Greg Donald
On 2/6/08, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/6/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There's the Zend Encoder at www.zend.com. Though it may be called > > something else now. > > Pointless. > > http://www.phprecovery.com/ http://www.zendecode.com/ I'm sure there are others.

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-06 Thread Greg Donald
On 2/6/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's the Zend Encoder at www.zend.com. Though it may be called > something else now. Pointless. http://www.phprecovery.com/ -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: ht

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-06 Thread Daniel Brown
On Feb 6, 2008 11:13 AM, C.R.Vegelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Bastien Koert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > zend encoder? > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-screw/ > > > > > > google for more > > > See also: > http://www.ioncube.com/ All good ideas. An

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-06 Thread Floor Terra
> Is htere a way to secoure my code so when they put it on the server, they > can't see it! Short answer: NO Long answer NO, but: There are some products that claim they protect your code, but they all basicly rely on "security through obscurity". A principle that is often frowned upon by security

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-06 Thread C.R.Vegelin
See also: http://www.ioncube.com/ - Original Message - From: "Bastien Koert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Zoran Bogdanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP Source code protection zend encoder? htt

RE: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-06 Thread Bastien Koert
zend encoder? http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-screw/ google for more bastien> To: php-general@lists.php.net> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:28:12 +0100> Subject: [PHP] PHP Source code protection> > Hi,> > I'm building a C# applicat

Re: [PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-06 Thread Richard Heyes
I'm building a C# application that connects to a server that has PHP scripts on it. We need to deliver the complete solution to a firm, the C# is no problem because it is compiled... But PHP is a problem bacause it is interpreted and we will have to deliver pure, unprotected script... Is h

[PHP] PHP Source code protection

2008-02-06 Thread Zoran Bogdanov
Hi, I'm building a C# application that connects to a server that has PHP scripts on it. We need to deliver the complete solution to a firm, the C# is no problem because it is compiled... But PHP is a problem bacause it is interpreted and we will have to deliver pure, unprotected script... Is

Re: [PHP] source code protection

2005-02-26 Thread Guillermo Rauch
> Hi there! > > What's the point of doing that? The PHP-codes are well protected if they are > on a well > configured server. Sometimes you want to sell protected code $.$ > > /G > @varupiraten.se -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.

Re: [PHP] source code protection

2005-02-26 Thread Gustav Wiberg
Hi there! What's the point of doing that? The PHP-codes are well protected if they are on a well configured server. /G @varupiraten.se - Original Message - From: "shabanip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 4:43 PM Subject: [PHP] source

Re: [PHP] source code protection

2005-02-26 Thread Joe Wollard
Shabanip, Zend provides a package for doing just this, but it comes with a price tag starting nigh to $1,000. You can find it here: http://www.zend.com/store/products/zend-encoder.php They do offer a free evaluation so you can "try before you buy" ;-) shabanip wrote: is there any way to protect

[PHP] source code protection

2005-02-26 Thread shabanip
is there any way to protect PHP files source code? thanks, Payam Shabanian shabanip -at- avapajoohesh.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php