Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-03 Thread tedd
chris said: Just out of interest, could you re-run the test using persistent connections? change mysql_connect to mysql_pconnect.. In doing so, the overall results dropped from a tenth of a second difference between both methods to three-one-hundredths of a second difference. In other words

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-03 Thread chris smith
On 4/3/06, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > chris said: > > >Time. Opening a db connection is time consuming. There are many levels > >involved (making the connection, authentication, etc).. Even worse if > >the connection is over tcp/ip because that overhead comes in on top as > >well. > > I repl

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-03 Thread tedd
chris said: Time. Opening a db connection is time consuming. There are many levels involved (making the connection, authentication, etc).. Even worse if the connection is over tcp/ip because that overhead comes in on top as well. I replied: Have you timed it? Maybe I'll do that tomorrow.

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
John Nichel wrote: Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: I never close connections; PHP does that for me and has never caused any problems doing that. I don't see it as sloppy programming, it is a documented feature that PHP closes resources such as database connections at the end of the script. It

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread John Nichel
Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: I never close connections; PHP does that for me and has never caused any problems doing that. I don't see it as sloppy programming, it is a documented feature that PHP closes resources such as database connections at the end of the script. It's extremely sloppy

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread Robert Cummings
On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 21:57, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > >> Of course, it wouldn't exactly be a rewrite to make it close the > >> connection at the end of every script before PHP did, if I'm proven > >> wrong and it one day is necessary. I'd only need to change the da

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
Robert Cummings wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 21:39, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: There's smart lazy programming, and sloppy lazy programming. I don't trust anything magical in PHP. Most of us are familiar with the magic quotes and global vars fiascos *LOL*. But hey, if yo

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread Robert Cummings
On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 21:39, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > > There's smart lazy programming, and sloppy lazy programming. I don't > > trust anything magical in PHP. Most of us are familiar with the magic > > quotes and global vars fiascos *LOL*. But hey, if you can squeez

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
Robert Cummings wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 20:48, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: Yeah, e.g. I have a database objects layer that means I only write SQL in classes, everything else is just calling object methods. I create the database object at the start of every script but that doesn't necessar

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread Robert Cummings
On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 20:48, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: > > Yeah, e.g. I have a database objects layer that means I only write SQL > in classes, everything else is just calling object methods. I create the > database object at the start of every script but that doesn't > necessarily open the da

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
Robert Cummings wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 20:15, tedd wrote: It would be interesting to actually run a script that opens, retrieves, and inserts data -- let's say 50k times. What's the time difference between one open, 50k retrieves/inserts, and one close-- as compared 50k opens retrieve/in

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread Robert Cummings
On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 20:15, tedd wrote: > >Time. Opening a db connection is time consuming. There are many levels > >involved (making the connection, authentication, etc).. Even worse if > >the connection is over tcp/ip because that overhead comes in on top as > >well. > > Have you timed it? > >

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread tedd
Time. Opening a db connection is time consuming. There are many levels involved (making the connection, authentication, etc).. Even worse if the connection is over tcp/ip because that overhead comes in on top as well. Have you timed it? It would be interesting to actually run a script that open

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread tedd
At 11:07 AM +1200 4/2/06, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: tedd wrote: > > > I always close the connection right after my > > query -- force of habit. It's like leaving the > > toilet seat up, it's only going to get you into > > trouble. > > So you close it after every query and then re-open i

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread chris smith
On 4/2/06, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I always close the connection right after my > >> > > query -- force of habit. It's like leaving the > >> > > toilet seat up, it's only going to get you into > >> > > trouble. > >> > > >> > So you close it after every query and then re-open

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
tedd wrote: > > > I always close the connection right after my > > query -- force of habit. It's like leaving the > > toilet seat up, it's only going to get you into > > trouble. > > So you close it after every query and then re-open it later for the > next query? I don't see that as a go

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-04-01 Thread tedd
> > > I always close the connection right after my > > query -- force of habit. It's like leaving the > > toilet seat up, it's only going to get you into > > trouble. > > So you close it after every query and then re-open it later for the > next query? I don't see that as a good idea. >

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-03-31 Thread chris smith
On 4/1/06, Anthony Ettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/31/06, chris smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/1/06, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At 10:30 PM +0200 3/31/06, Martin Zvarík wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > >I was wondering why is it necessary to use > > > >mysql_close() at t

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-03-31 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 3/31/06, chris smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/1/06, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 10:30 PM +0200 3/31/06, Martin Zvarík wrote: > > >Hi, > > >I was wondering why is it necessary to use > > >mysql_close() at the end of your script. > > >If you don't do it, it works anyways, d

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-03-31 Thread chris smith
On 4/1/06, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:30 PM +0200 3/31/06, Martin Zvarík wrote: > >Hi, > >I was wondering why is it necessary to use > >mysql_close() at the end of your script. > >If you don't do it, it works anyways, doesn't it? > > > >MZ > > MZ: > > I always close the connection

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-03-31 Thread tedd
At 10:30 PM +0200 3/31/06, Martin Zvarík wrote: Hi, I was wondering why is it necessary to use mysql_close() at the end of your script. If you don't do it, it works anyways, doesn't it? MZ MZ: I always close the connection right after my query -- force of habit. It's like leaving the t

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-03-31 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 3/31/06, Martin Zvarík <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Lynch wrote: > > >On Fri, March 31, 2006 2:30 pm, Martin Zvarík wrote: > > > > > >>I was wondering why is it necessary to use mysql_close() at the > >>end > >>of your script. > >>If you don't do it, it works anyways, doesn't it? > >

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-03-31 Thread Martin Zvarík
Richard Lynch wrote: On Fri, March 31, 2006 2:30 pm, Martin Zvarík wrote: I was wondering why is it necessary to use mysql_close() at the end of your script. If you don't do it, it works anyways, doesn't it? Yes, but... Suppose you write a script to read data from one MySQL server

Re: [PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-03-31 Thread Richard Lynch
On Fri, March 31, 2006 2:30 pm, Martin Zvarík wrote: > I was wondering why is it necessary to use mysql_close() at the > end > of your script. > If you don't do it, it works anyways, doesn't it? Yes, but... Suppose you write a script to read data from one MySQL server, and then insert it into

[PHP] MySQL close connection, what's the purpose?

2006-03-31 Thread Martin Zvarík
Hi, I was wondering why is it necessary to use mysql_close() at the end of your script. If you don't do it, it works anyways, doesn't it? MZ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] mysql query/$post problem

2006-03-27 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
PHP Mailer wrote: Mark skrev: [snip] $query = "INSERT INTO users AVATARS WHERE id =$user_id '','$avname')"; mysql_query($query);s [snip] I am trying to insert the value of $avname into the users table, into the avatar field. I think what you are trying to do is coordinated a bit wrong, perh

Re: [PHP] mysql query/$post problem

2006-03-27 Thread PHP Mailer
ALUES ('$avname')WHERE id ='$user_id')"; As Nicolas said, it is important that you understand your abilities to debug these queries by outputting them through simple commands such as echo or even the php-mysql function mysql_error(); give these a try Let us know how it work

Re: [PHP] mysql query/$post problem

2006-03-27 Thread chris smith
On 3/27/06, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I havnt even tried this query but i know its wrong can anyone help! > > > *** > include("header.php"); > include("connect.php"); > > $comp_id = $_SESSION['comp_id']; > $user_id = $_SESSION['user_id']; > > // Grab var

Re: [PHP] mysql query/$post problem

2006-03-27 Thread nicolas figaro
Mark a écrit : I havnt even tried this query but i know its wrong can anyone help! *** don't you need a session_start() somewhere ? (or it's in the header.php or connect.php perhaps ?) $comp_id = $_SESSION['comp_id']; $user_id = $_SESSION['user_id']; //

[PHP] mysql query/$post problem

2006-03-27 Thread Mark
I havnt even tried this query but i know its wrong can anyone help! *** ** I am trying to insert the value of $avname into the users table, into the avatar field. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsu

Re: [PHP] Apache/PHP/MySQL/OpenSSL upgrade question

2006-03-24 Thread Julius Hacker
Jason Gerfen wrote: > I know this might be slightly off topic but I just upgraded > PHP/MySQL/OpenSSL and Apache to the latest stable release for each > project and so far so good. The one problem I am encountering is > dealing with SSL and apachectl not accepting the comman

Re: [PHP] Apache/PHP/MySQL/OpenSSL upgrade question

2006-03-24 Thread Petar Nedyalkov
On Friday 24 March 2006 17:24, Jason Gerfen wrote: > I know this might be slightly off topic but I just upgraded > PHP/MySQL/OpenSSL and Apache to the latest stable release for each > project and so far so good. The one problem I am encountering is > dealing with SSL and apachectl n

[PHP] Apache/PHP/MySQL/OpenSSL upgrade question

2006-03-24 Thread Jason Gerfen
I know this might be slightly off topic but I just upgraded PHP/MySQL/OpenSSL and Apache to the latest stable release for each project and so far so good. The one problem I am encountering is dealing with SSL and apachectl not accepting the command 'apachectl startssl' as it is d

Re: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql)

2006-03-21 Thread Thorsten Suckow-Homberg
The connection is successful but the data are not getting inserted into the table. I need to insert all the words into the table. When I change the insert statement with one insert at a time, I can insert values to the database. For exampel: $qure = "INSERT INTO dict VALUES (1,'apple')"; Do

[PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql)

2006-03-21 Thread sathyashrayan
I have given a task to create a site which is a clone of www.onelook.com. As a first stage I have downloaded a list of English words (only words not meaning) in a text format. I have created a data structure in the mysql database. And wrote the following code to insert data into the table at

[PHP] Re: Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql)

2006-03-21 Thread João Cândido de Souza Neto
It gives you any error? sathyashrayan wrote: > I have given a task to create a site which is a clone of > www.onelook.com. > As a first stage I have downloaded a list of English words (only words not > meaning) in a text format. I have created a data structure in the mysql > database. And wro

Re: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql)

2006-03-21 Thread sathyashrayan
- Original Message - From: "Dan Parry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'sathyashrayan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:19 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql) conn denotes a constant where the value yo

RE: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql)

2006-03-21 Thread Dan Parry
P] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql) - Original Message - From: "Dan Parry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'sathyashrayan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:12 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql) >

Re: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql)

2006-03-21 Thread Robin Vickery
On 21/03/06, sathyashrayan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Parry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'sathyashrayan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:12 PM > Subject: RE: [P

Re: [PHP] Re: Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql)

2006-03-21 Thread sathyashrayan
- Original Message - From: "João Cândido de Souza Neto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:54 PM Subject: [PHP] Re: Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql) It gives you any error? No the data are not getting inserted. -- PHP General Ma

Re: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql)

2006-03-21 Thread sathyashrayan
Yes it is a error.Thanks. - Original Message - From: Dave Goodchild To: sathyashrayan Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql) Yes, but it should be $conn, not conn. There is no $ in front of the variable name

Re: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql)

2006-03-21 Thread sathyashrayan
- Original Message - From: "Dan Parry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'sathyashrayan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:12 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql) [snip] $conn=mysql_connect(&quo

Re: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql)

2006-03-21 Thread sathyashrayan
- Original Message - From: "Thorsten Suckow-Homberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "sathyashrayan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql) The connection is successful but t

RE: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql)

2006-03-21 Thread Dan Parry
ua Webtech Ltd http://www.virtuawebtech.co.uk -Original Message- From: sathyashrayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 March 2006 12:20 To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Inserting data at runtime (php,mysql) I have given a task to create a site which is a clone of www.onelook.com. As a first stage

Re: [PHP] MySQL NOT IN Query not working

2006-03-16 Thread Kevin Murphy
Yup. Thats the problem. I'm running 4.0.21. Thanks. -- Kevin Murphy Webmaster - Information and Marketing Services Western Nevada Community College www.wncc.edu (775) 445-3326 On Mar 16, 2006, at 4:48 PM, Miles Thompson wrote: At 08:41 PM 3/16/2006, Kevin Murphy wrote: Anyone want to poi

Re: [PHP] MySQL NOT IN Query not working

2006-03-16 Thread Ligaya Turmelle
Kevin Murphy wrote: Anyone want to point me to why this isn't working: $hr_query = "select dp_lname,dp_fname,dp_id FROM dir_all WHERE dp_id NOT IN (SELECT sup_id FROM dir_title2) ORDER BY dp_lname"; There are two tables, dir_all (the main list of everyone) an

Re: [PHP] MySQL NOT IN Query not working

2006-03-16 Thread Miles Thompson
At 08:41 PM 3/16/2006, Kevin Murphy wrote: Anyone want to point me to why this isn't working: $hr_query = "select dp_lname,dp_fname,dp_id FROM dir_all WHERE dp_id NOT IN (SELECT sup_id FROM dir_title2) ORDER BY dp_lname";

[PHP] MySQL NOT IN Query not working

2006-03-16 Thread Kevin Murphy
Anyone want to point me to why this isn't working: $hr_query = "select dp_lname,dp_fname,dp_id FROM dir_all WHERE dp_id NOT IN (SELECT sup_id FROM dir_title2) ORDER BY dp_lname"; There are two tables, dir_all (the main list

RE: [PHP] Mysql Rows [END of thread]

2006-03-06 Thread tedd
Hi gang: Miles said: Why are we still chasing this thread? No need to pursue this thread anymore -- I'll just address the statements put to me. Why does he even have to see gaps? Just present the info, unless he wants to see the ID. Miles, I think that's the best solution I've heard t

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread Chris
Barry: I realize that relational dB's are out if one does this -- and -- I fully understand why. That's the reason when I started this thread I made it clear that I was NOT talking about a relational dB but rather a simple flat file. What I find interesting in all of this exchange -- howe

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread Paul Novitski
At 08:57 AM 3/6/2006, tedd wrote: What I find interesting in all of this exchange -- however -- is that everyone agree's renumbering the "id" of a dB is something you don't do, but no one can come up with a concrete (other than relational) reason why. It's simply -- concretely -- inefficient

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 3/6/06, Jim Moseby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What I find interesting in all of this exchange -- however -- is that > > everyone agree's renumbering the "id" of a dB is something you don't > > do, but no one can come up with a concrete (other than relational) > > reason why. > > > > If y

RE: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread Miles Thompson
At 10:56 AM 3/6/2006, tedd wrote: As such, if you don't renumber, then the only thing left is to use a timestamp, I guess. [/snip] No, if you have gaps you can still step through sequentially, like 14, 15, 18, 19, 20... It's the gaps that are the problem. I have no problem understanding why

RE: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread Jim Moseby
> > What I find interesting in all of this exchange -- however -- is that > everyone agree's renumbering the "id" of a dB is something you don't > do, but no one can come up with a concrete (other than relational) > reason why. If you don't care that a given record may have a different, unpr

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 3/6/06, Dusty Bin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another point to consider, is that Tedds method of renumbering the rows, > *may* not preserve the original sequence. I have not checked the mysql > source, but if some delete activity has occurred in the table, then > there will be holes in the dat

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread Dusty Bin
Another point to consider, is that Tedds method of renumbering the rows, *may* not preserve the original sequence. I have not checked the mysql source, but if some delete activity has occurred in the table, then there will be holes in the data, in some circumstances, inserting further records to t

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread Jochem Maas
tedd wrote: Well it seems you output it via PHP so count it extern in PHP. And changing ID values is a "no-go!" You will never have any relation possibilities if you alter the ID fields. In short. You mess everthing up with it. There are count functions in MySQL that gives you the counted row

RE: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread jblanchard
[snip] That's the reason when I started this thread I made it clear that I was NOT talking about a relational dB but rather a simple flat file. What I find interesting in all of this exchange -- however -- is that everyone agree's renumbering the "id" of a dB is something you don't do, but no o

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows [and whats the difference between Navigational and Relational DBs]

2006-03-06 Thread Jochem Maas
Miles Thompson wrote: I hope the following will be helpful, and it is a bit of a rant .. thank god someone ranted on this already :-) I wasn't feeling up to it but it's also one of those cases that you can't help but speak out. ;-) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscr

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread tedd
Well it seems you output it via PHP so count it extern in PHP. And changing ID values is a "no-go!" You will never have any relation possibilities if you alter the ID fields. In short. You mess everthing up with it. There are count functions in MySQL that gives you the counted rows or output it

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread Barry
tedd wrote: As such, if you don't renumber, then the only thing left is to use a timestamp, I guess. [/snip] No, if you have gaps you can still step through sequentially, like 14, 15, 18, 19, 20... It's the gaps that are the problem. I have no problem understanding why there are gaps in a dB

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread Ray Hauge
On Monday 06 March 2006 07:56, tedd wrote: > So, I'm still trying to find a simple way around this problem. Either > I renumber the "id" field OR provide an external counter to present > to the user. I don't see any other solutions, does anyone? > > Thanks. > > tedd I haven't followed this thread

RE: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread tedd
As such, if you don't renumber, then the only thing left is to use a timestamp, I guess. [/snip] No, if you have gaps you can still step through sequentially, like 14, 15, 18, 19, 20... It's the gaps that are the problem. I have no problem understanding why there are gaps in a dB and dealing

RE: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-06 Thread jblanchard
[snip] >You must have a column that is sequential in some way. An >auto-incremented column, timestamp, or some other device that will allow >you to step through regardless of gaps in sequence. If you do not have >such a column then you could add one. You see, now that's the problem. If you have a

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-05 Thread tedd
Gustav: In any event, I just tested your claim on my host and I was able to renumber 50,000 records in less than 1/2 second. Even though I tried it several times, the results were never above 0.47 seconds. If I was dealing with a database that was accessible to others, then I would either loc

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-05 Thread Gustav Wiberg
- Original Message - From: "tedd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: "Gustav Wiberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows Hi: Gustav said: No, may

Re: [PHP] php/mysql/phpMyAdmin on an iBook?

2006-03-05 Thread Larry E. Ullman
I'm thinking of getting an iBook for reasons not really to do with webbing but really need to do occasional php/mysql stuff to justify the expense. I believe that they all come with an Apache testing server installed and wondered if anyone had any success with getting php/mysql/phpMy

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-05 Thread Curt Zirzow
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 08:01:07AM -0500, tedd wrote: > R O B said: > > >That Rod guy, he's such a card! I'd add something, but Jay has already > >covered my list in a more recent email than this one to which I'm > >responding :) > > jblanchard (who I think is Rod) said: > > >A SQL question on a

RE: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-05 Thread jblanchard
[snip] R O B said: >That Rod guy, he's such a card! I'd add something, but Jay has already >covered my list in a more recent email than this one to which I'm >responding :) jblanchard (who I think is Rod) said: [/snip] I am definitely not Rod. [snip] For sake of argument, let's agree that renum

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-05 Thread chris smith
On 3/6/06, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > R O B said: > > >That Rod guy, he's such a card! I'd add something, but Jay has already > >covered my list in a more recent email than this one to which I'm > >responding :) > > jblanchard (who I think is Rod) said: > > >A SQL question on a PHP mailing l

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-05 Thread tedd
R O B said: That Rod guy, he's such a card! I'd add something, but Jay has already covered my list in a more recent email than this one to which I'm responding :) jblanchard (who I think is Rod) said: A SQL question on a PHP mailing list usually gets more than ribbing. ;) No harm done -- I

Re: [PHP] php/mysql/phpMyAdmin on an iBook?

2006-03-04 Thread chris smith
On 3/5/06, Paul Jinks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone > > I'm thinking of getting an iBook for reasons not really to do with > webbing but really need to do occasional php/mysql stuff to justify the > expense. I believe that they all come with an Apache test

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-04 Thread Robert Cummings
On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 18:58, tedd wrote: > Hi: > > Rod said: > > >*LOL* I knew those MySQL people shouldn't have made the ALTER TABLE > >syntax available to just anyone. Gun --> foot --> *BLAM*. I hope to God > >you never get your hands on a real database with millions of entries. > > I'm glad th

RE: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-04 Thread jblanchard
[snip] I'm glad that you were amused. Considering that I was talking about a flat dB, then you have already shot yourself in the foot if your "real database" is in the millions of entries and is flat. I hope to God that normalization may be something you consider in your next database design. [

RE: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-04 Thread jblanchard
[snip] my reasoning for needing the users number in a database is this... i am going to be doing a lottery type thing where i grab a random number between 1 and the result of mysql_num_rows($result)... that is the reason the gaps matter. the while loop didn't work for me so if anyone could help m

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-04 Thread Robert Cummings
urray @ PlanetThoughtful" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Anthony Ettinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:29 PM > Subject: Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Robert Cummings"

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-04 Thread tedd
Hi: Gustav said: No, maybe not when it's a small db, but when you try to delete 50.000 posts I have a strong feeling this would be very much slower then if you don't alter table after each deletion. First, I'm not deleting 50,000 records -- I dropping a table and renumbering it. In any ev

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-04 Thread benifactor
ttinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "tedd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "PHP-General&quo

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-04 Thread benifactor
ttinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows > On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 09:14, tedd wrote: > > planetthoughtful wrote: > > > > >But, too often I've seen people new to database design not liking > &

[PHP] php/mysql/phpMyAdmin on an iBook?

2006-03-04 Thread Paul Jinks
Hi everyone I'm thinking of getting an iBook for reasons not really to do with webbing but really need to do occasional php/mysql stuff to justify the expense. I believe that they all come with an Apache testing server installed and wondered if anyone had any success with getting php/

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-04 Thread Robert Cummings
On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 09:14, tedd wrote: > planetthoughtful wrote: > > >But, too often I've seen people new to database design not liking > >'gaps' because 'user1' will have a unique id of '1', while 'user2' > >will have a unique id of '6' because the records associated with > >unique ids '2'

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-04 Thread Gustav Wiberg
- Original Message - From: "tedd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: "benifactor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Murray @ PlanetThoughtful" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Anthony Ettinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-04 Thread tedd
planetthoughtful wrote: But, too often I've seen people new to database design not liking 'gaps' because 'user1' will have a unique id of '1', while 'user2' will have a unique id of '6' because the records associated with unique ids '2' through '5' were deleted during testing, and so on. So,

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-04 Thread Miles Thompson
I hope the following will be helpful, and it is a bit of a rant .. The row number DOES NOT MATTER and is absolutely irrelevant. MySQL is a relational database from which information is gathered by means of comparing fields to key values. Even if you are using an auto-incremented primary key

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-03 Thread Murray @ PlanetThoughtful
On 4/03/2006 5:36 PM, Anthony Ettinger wrote: Yep, that's one good reason among many for using unique ids. Thinking a little about the OP's question, I could understand row order being relevant in certain situations where you wanted to display something like, "You were the 4

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-03 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 3/3/06, Murray @ PlanetThoughtful <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> I have to agree with Anthony - why are you using row order to determine > >> something relating to users? I couldn't follow your brief explanation > >> above, and the fact that you're doing it sets off some soft alarm bells

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-03 Thread Murray @ PlanetThoughtful
I have to agree with Anthony - why are you using row order to determine something relating to users? I couldn't follow your brief explanation above, and the fact that you're doing it sets off some soft alarm bells about the design of your application. Why is it important that there shouldn't be

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-03 Thread Anthony Ettinger
not be what is not acurate enough. thank you for you help. simple fix. i > > should have caught it. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Anthony Ettinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "benifactor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > &

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-03 Thread Murray @ PlanetThoughtful
. - Original Message - From: "Anthony Ettinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "benifactor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "php" Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows define $1 = 0 outside your loop. i'm curious why you are relyin

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-03 Thread benifactor
thony Ettinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "benifactor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "php" Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows define $1 = 0 outside your loop. i'm curious why you are relying on row-order in the database? Typica

Re: [PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-03 Thread Anthony Ettinger
define $1 = 0 outside your loop. i'm curious why you are relying on row-order in the database? Typically you'd have a PRIMARY KEY auto_increment for something like this. On 3/3/06, benifactor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i need to find a way to find out what number of a row is in a database... >

[PHP] Mysql Rows

2006-03-03 Thread benifactor
i need to find a way to find out what number of a row is in a database... for example: //this is the database Username: Chuck Password: adsasa Username: jimmy Password: adsf Username: stewart Password: dfds the information i need is what row jimmy resides on.. this is what i tried: function i_

Re: [PHP] Linux distributions and tools for Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL dev

2006-03-01 Thread Chris
pment LAMP system. Anytime I tried using packages some need seemed to force me back to doing it by hand. I guess it depends on what you are developing.. Most package systems have the extensions available but not installed by default (eg php-mysql, php-pgsql, php-imap etc). So I guess my mor

Re: [PHP] Linux distributions and tools for Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL dev

2006-03-01 Thread John Meyer
Chris Lott wrote: > Thanks for the advice-- I've run Linux without a GUI for a long time, > so I'm quite familiar with hand compilations-- but I always wondered > if I was just missing something with packaging systems that it seemed > to REQUIRE hand-compilation to get a workable development LAMP

Re: [PHP] Linux distributions and tools for Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL dev

2006-03-01 Thread Chris Lott
Thanks for the advice-- I've run Linux without a GUI for a long time, so I'm quite familiar with hand compilations-- but I always wondered if I was just missing something with packaging systems that it seemed to REQUIRE hand-compilation to get a workable development LAMP system. Anytime I tried us

Re: [PHP] Linux distributions and tools for Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL dev

2006-02-27 Thread Curt Zirzow
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:13:15AM +1100, David Tulloh wrote: > Curt Zirzow wrote: > > > > > Before I get into what distib to use there are a few things i'd > > like to point out: > > > > 1) Avoid using the packaging system the OS provides for the > > developement server. If you do, you

Re: [PHP] Linux distributions and tools for Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL dev

2006-02-27 Thread David Tulloh
Curt Zirzow wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 01:41:06PM -0900, Chris Lott wrote: > >>I'm making the switch from Windows to Linux for mydesktop and >>development environment and would greatly appreciate suggestions for >>development tools on this platform. Ubuntu seems to be getting all the >>press

Re: [PHP] Linux distributions and tools for Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL dev

2006-02-27 Thread John Nichel
Chris Lott wrote: I'm making the switch from Windows to Linux for mydesktop and development environment and would greatly appreciate suggestions for development tools on this platform. Ubuntu seems to be getting all the press, but suggestions about Linux distributions are welcome as well! c U

[PHP] Re: Linux distributions and tools for Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL dev

2006-02-26 Thread Jens Kleikamp
Chris Lott wrote: I'm making the switch from Windows to Linux for mydesktop and development environment and would greatly appreciate suggestions for development tools on this platform. Ubuntu seems to be getting all the press, but suggestions about Linux distributions are welcome as well! c J

Re: [PHP] Linux distributions and tools for Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL dev

2006-02-26 Thread Curt Zirzow
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 01:41:06PM -0900, Chris Lott wrote: > I'm making the switch from Windows to Linux for mydesktop and > development environment and would greatly appreciate suggestions for > development tools on this platform. Ubuntu seems to be getting all the > press, but suggestions about

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