Re: FW: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root

2013-03-15 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 09:11 -0400, Dale H. Cook wrote: > At 09:44 PM 3/14/2013, tamouse mailing lists wrote: > > >If you are delivering files to a (human) user via their browser, by whatever > >mechanism, that means someone can write a script to scrape them. > > That script, however, would have

Re: FW: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root

2013-03-15 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 09:44 PM 3/14/2013, tamouse mailing lists wrote: >If you are delivering files to a (human) user via their browser, by whatever >mechanism, that means someone can write a script to scrape them. That script, however, would have to be running on my host system in order to access the script whic

Re: FW: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root

2013-03-14 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 04:06 AM 3/14/2013, tamouse mailing lists wrote: >If the files are delivered via the web, by php or some other means, even if >located outside webroot, they'd still be scrapeable. Bots, however, being "mechanical" (i.e., hard wired or programmed) behave in different ways than humans, and that

Re: FW: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root

2013-03-14 Thread tamouse mailing lists
On Mar 13, 2013 7:06 PM, "David Robley" wrote: > > "Dale H. Cook" wrote: > > > At 05:04 PM 3/13/2013, Dan McCullough wrote > > : > >>Web bots can ignore the robots.txt file, most scrapers would. > > > > and at 05:06 PM 3/13/2013, Marc Guay wrote: > > > >>These don't sound like robots that would re

Re: FW: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root

2013-03-13 Thread David Robley
"Dale H. Cook" wrote: > At 05:04 PM 3/13/2013, Dan McCullough wrote > : >>Web bots can ignore the robots.txt file, most scrapers would. > > and at 05:06 PM 3/13/2013, Marc Guay wrote: > >>These don't sound like robots that would respect a txt file to me. > > Dan and Marc are correct. Although I

Re: FW: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root

2013-03-13 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 05:04 PM 3/13/2013, Dan McCullough wrote : >Web bots can ignore the robots.txt file, most scrapers would. and at 05:06 PM 3/13/2013, Marc Guay wrote: >These don't sound like robots that would respect a txt file to me. Dan and Marc are correct. Although I used the terms "spiders" and "pirates"

Re: FW: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root

2013-03-13 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 04:58 PM 3/13/2013, Jen Rasmussen wrote: >Have you tried keeping all of your documents in one directory and blocking >that directory via a robots.txt file? A spider used by a pirate site does not have to honor robots.txt, just as a non-Adobe PDF utility does not have to honor security setting

Re: FW: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root

2013-03-13 Thread Marc Guay
> Have you tried keeping all of your documents in one directory and blocking > that directory via a robots.txt file? These don't sound like robots that would respect a txt file to me. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: FW: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root

2013-03-13 Thread Dan McCullough
Web bots can ignore the robots.txt file, most scrapers would. On Mar 13, 2013 4:59 PM, "Jen Rasmussen" wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Dale H. Cook [mailto:radiot...@plymouthcolony.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:38 PM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP] Accessin

FW: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root

2013-03-13 Thread Jen Rasmussen
-Original Message- From: Dale H. Cook [mailto:radiot...@plymouthcolony.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:38 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Accessing Files Outside the Web Root Let me preface my question by noting that I am virtually a PHP novice. Although I am a long