RE: [PHP] OO purism sucks - sell me on PHP5?

2006-06-02 Thread Kilbride, James P.
> -Original Message- > From: tedd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 3:11 PM > To: Rasmus Lerdorf; tedd > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] OO purism sucks - sell me on PHP5? > SNIP > > So for now, I'll stay with

Re: [PHP] OO purism sucks - sell me on PHP5?

2006-06-02 Thread tedd
At 10:51 AM -0700 6/2/06, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >tedd wrote: >>At 9:00 AM -0700 6/2/06, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >>-snip- (a bunch of things over my head) > >I thought I kept the examples pretty simple actually. If you have specific >questions on them I would be hap

Re: [PHP] OO purism sucks - sell me on PHP5?

2006-06-02 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
tedd wrote: At 9:00 AM -0700 6/2/06, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- (a bunch of things over my head) I thought I kept the examples pretty simple actually. If you have specific questions on them I would be happy to explain them in more detail. -Rasmus -- PHP Gener

[PHP] Try XMLWriter ... was Re: [PHP] OO purism sucks - sell me on PHP5?

2006-06-02 Thread D. Dante Lorenso
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are some of the other "killer features" of PHP5 that I may be sleeping on here. You have got to get your hands on XMLWriter. I don't write any XHTML inside php any more. I've wrapped the XMLWriter object inside my own object and now I can create 100% proper

Re: [PHP] OO purism sucks - sell me on PHP5?

2006-06-02 Thread tedd
At 9:00 AM -0700 6/2/06, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- (a bunch of things over my head) >Note that for all of this I am referring to PHP 5.1.x, not 5.0.x. > >-Rasmus Damn -- remind me to never disagree with you (as if I could). My self-perceived position on the food c

Re: [PHP] OO purism sucks - sell me on PHP5?

2006-06-02 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" works for a while, but if there are easier and/or better ways to do things in PHP5, I want in! So someone sell me on this from the point of view of someone who's upgraded and has learned the joys of PHP5. So far what I've found onli

Re: [PHP] OO purism sucks - sell me on PHP5?

2006-06-02 Thread tg-php
I'm kind of coming from the outside here, so forgive my ignorance on some matters. I have some OO experience, just not with PHP and have only worked with PHP4 so again.. kind of on the outside of all this. Rasmus, you make a great point here. OO is structured and is all about constraints wher