Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-19 Thread Shawn McKenzie
bruce wrote: > interesting points regarding college and programming.. > > my degrees bsee/msee covered alot more than pure programing.. as a double > ee/cs, the ability to articulate an issue/problem, and bring to mind a cogent > thought process was valuable. the ability to understand how differ

RE: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-19 Thread bruce
: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP] while-question > Dabbling? > > I think that making a living from it isn't dabbling, so I may not be > qualified to speak for the dabblers. > > But for me, I was writing code before there were such courses. Later, > when

Re: [PHP] while question

2008-11-18 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 10:52 +, Nathan Rixham wrote: > Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 18:01 -0500, Craige Leeder wrote: > >> Ashley Sheridan wrote: > >>> On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 17:47 -0500, Craige Leeder wrote: > >>> > Only thing to note with the foreach is that you are

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 14:33 +, Nathan Rixham wrote: > Craige Leeder wrote: > > Jochem Maas wrote: > >> klieder ... kliederen > >> > >> the E sound is short. > >> > >> > > Interesting to know. Thanks :D > > > > - Craige > > don't believe him, "jochem" is really called Bob Davis, a slightly

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-18 Thread Bastien Koert
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Nathan Rixham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craige Leeder wrote: > >> Jochem Maas wrote: >> >>> klieder ... kliederen >>> >>> the E sound is short. >>> >>> >>> >> Interesting to know. Thanks :D >> >> - Craige >> > > don't believe him, "jochem" is really called Bob D

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-18 Thread Nathan Rixham
Craige Leeder wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: klieder ... kliederen the E sound is short. Interesting to know. Thanks :D - Craige don't believe him, "jochem" is really called Bob Davis, a slightly balding middle aged ASP developer from hull sent to infiltrate the PHP community and misguide

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-18 Thread Craige Leeder
Jochem Maas wrote: klieder ... kliederen the E sound is short. Interesting to know. Thanks :D - Craige -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-18 Thread Jochem Maas
Craige Leeder schreef: > Jochem Maas wrote: >> just for laughs .. given the 'dabble' thread "Cleeder" is phonetically >> very very close to a dutch word meaning 'messing around' .. rather in >> the way >> a 2yo might mess around with a bowl of yogurt. >> > Haha, now that does make me laugh. Out

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-18 Thread Craige Leeder
Jochem Maas wrote: just for laughs .. given the 'dabble' thread "Cleeder" is phonetically very very close to a dutch word meaning 'messing around' .. rather in the way a 2yo might mess around with a bowl of yogurt. Haha, now that does make me laugh. Out of curiosity, what is the actual word f

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-18 Thread Nathan Rixham
tedd wrote: At 7:02 PM -0500 11/17/08, Craige Leeder wrote: I'm not illiterate; promise :p - Craige Yeah, his parents were married before he was born. Cheers, tedd omg tedd, I was just reading this thread over, thought exactly that witty response, clicked you're reply and there it is;

Re: [PHP] while question

2008-11-18 Thread Nathan Rixham
Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 18:01 -0500, Craige Leeder wrote: Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 17:47 -0500, Craige Leeder wrote: Only thing to note with the foreach is that you are actually working on a copy of the array, so if you intend to modify it, pass it b

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Jochem Maas
Craige Leeder schreef: > Jochem Maas wrote: >> must . resist >> >> "I take you didn't score to hig on the spelling test? and collage, >> is that the the cut-n-paste school of IT?" >> >> dang it, failed. ;-) >> > > > Haha! 'high' was just my 'h' key not pressing, and college is j

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Jochem Maas
tedd schreef: > At 12:52 AM +0100 11/18/08, Jochem Maas wrote: >> Craige Leeder schreef: >> > I'm 100% self taught for now. I'm just out of higschool, and hopefully >>> going off to collage next year. >> >> must . resist >> >> "I take you didn't score to hig on the spelling test? and co

Re: [PHP] while question

2008-11-17 Thread Micah Gersten
Jay Blanchard wrote: > [snip] > ...foreach... > [/snip] > > You could also use a for loop if you wanted to count; > > for($i = 0; $i < count($array); $i++){ >echo $i . "\n"; > } > > > This is not good because you are calling count every loop iteration. Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Netw

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread tedd
At 7:02 PM -0500 11/17/08, Craige Leeder wrote: I'm not illiterate; promise :p - Craige Yeah, his parents were married before he was born. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To u

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread tedd
At 12:52 AM +0100 11/18/08, Jochem Maas wrote: Craige Leeder schreef: > I'm 100% self taught for now. I'm just out of higschool, and hopefully going off to collage next year. must . resist "I take you didn't score to hig on the spelling test? and collage, is that the the cut-n-pas

Re: [PHP] while question

2008-11-17 Thread Jochem Maas
Craige Leeder schreef: > Ashley Sheridan wrote: >> On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 17:47 -0500, Craige Leeder wrote: >> >>> Only thing to note with the foreach is that you are actually working >>> on a copy of the array, so if you intend to modify it, pass it by >>> reference. >>> >>> - Craige >>> >>

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Craige Leeder
Jochem Maas wrote: must . resist "I take you didn't score to hig on the spelling test? and collage, is that the the cut-n-paste school of IT?" dang it, failed. ;-) Haha! 'high' was just my 'h' key not pressing, and college is just one of those words I have trouble with.

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Jochem Maas
tedd schreef: > At 10:00 AM -0800 11/17/08, bruce wrote: >> curious qiestion >> >> to all on here who dabble in php... how many of you have actully gone to >> college, taken algorithm courses, microprocessor courses, >> design/architecture courses, etc.. >> >> or is the majority of the work her

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Jochem Maas
Craige Leeder schreef: > bruce wrote: >> curious qiestion >> >> to all on here who dabble in php... how many of you have actully gone to >> college, taken algorithm courses, microprocessor courses, >> design/architecture courses, etc.. >> >> or is the majority of the work here from people who'v

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Craige Leeder
bruce wrote: curious qiestion to all on here who dabble in php... how many of you have actully gone to college, taken algorithm courses, microprocessor courses, design/architecture courses, etc.. or is the majority of the work here from people who've grabbed the tools and started programmin

Re: [PHP] while question

2008-11-17 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 18:01 -0500, Craige Leeder wrote: > Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 17:47 -0500, Craige Leeder wrote: > > > >> Only thing to note with the foreach is that you are actually working on > >> a copy of the array, so if you intend to modify it, pass it by refer

Re: [PHP] while question

2008-11-17 Thread Craige Leeder
Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 17:47 -0500, Craige Leeder wrote: Only thing to note with the foreach is that you are actually working on a copy of the array, so if you intend to modify it, pass it by reference. - Craige Can you do that? I assume it would look like this:

Re: [PHP] while question

2008-11-17 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 17:47 -0500, Craige Leeder wrote: > Alain Roger wrote: > > Hi, > > > > i'm on PHP training and our lector is telling us that to avoid counting an > > array item amout thanks count($my_array), he tells we can do: > > while($my_array) > > { > > ... do something > > } > > but fr

Re: [PHP] while question

2008-11-17 Thread Craige Leeder
Alain Roger wrote: Hi, i'm on PHP training and our lector is telling us that to avoid counting an array item amout thanks count($my_array), he tells we can do: while($my_array) { ... do something } but from experience this is an infinity loop... it should be always something like $count = coun

RE: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread tedd
At 2:55 PM -0500 11/17/08, Wolf wrote: Tedd, glad you got hooked on Phonics. One of these days I hope from graduating from just looking at the pictures, but right now the pictures are oh so enticing!. ;) Wolf Wolf: Lot's of exciting things -- hard to keep up on bots, automated buying, da

RE: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Wolf
> Dabbling? > > I think that making a living from it isn't dabbling, so I may not be > qualified to speak for the dabblers. > > But for me, I was writing code before there were such courses. Later, > when I went to college I was taught adventures in keypunching and > received several "next to

RE: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread tedd
At 10:00 AM -0800 11/17/08, bruce wrote: curious qiestion to all on here who dabble in php... how many of you have actully gone to college, taken algorithm courses, microprocessor courses, design/architecture courses, etc.. or is the majority of the work here from people who've grabbed the

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Nathan Rixham
bruce wrote: curious qiestion to all on here who dabble in php... how many of you have actully gone to college, taken algorithm courses, microprocessor courses, design/architecture courses, etc.. or is the majority of the work here from people who've grabbed the tools and started programmin

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 19:07 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > Robert Cummings schreef: > > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 14:54 +, Stut wrote: > >> On 17 Nov 2008, at 14:31, Nathan Rixham wrote: > >>> if you really want a challenge try this one.. > >>> > >>> task: add the numbers 5 and 17 together, using php,

RE: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 10:00 -0800, bruce wrote: > curious qiestion > > to all on here who dabble in php... how many of you have actully gone to > college, taken algorithm courses, microprocessor courses, > design/architecture courses, etc.. > > or is the majority of the work here from people

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings schreef: > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 14:54 +, Stut wrote: >> On 17 Nov 2008, at 14:31, Nathan Rixham wrote: >>> if you really want a challenge try this one.. >>> >>> task: add the numbers 5 and 17 together, using php, without using >>> the + operator. fill it in: >>> >>> function

RE: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread bruce
mming... ? -Original Message- From: Robert Cummings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:53 AM To: Stut Cc: Nathan Rixham; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] while-question On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 14:54 +, Stut wrote: > On 17 Nov 2008, at 14:31, Nathan Rixh

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 14:54 +, Stut wrote: > On 17 Nov 2008, at 14:31, Nathan Rixham wrote: > > if you really want a challenge try this one.. > > > > task: add the numbers 5 and 17 together, using php, without using > > the + operator. fill it in: > > > > function add($a , $b) { > > //code he

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Nathan Rixham
Stut wrote: On 17 Nov 2008, at 14:31, Nathan Rixham wrote: if you really want a challenge try this one.. task: add the numbers 5 and 17 together, using php, without using the + operator. fill it in: function add($a , $b) { //code here but no + - / * operators return $answer; } echo add(5, 1

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nathan Rixham schreef: >> Jochem Maas wrote: >>> $a = range(1,10); >>> for ($i = 0, $c = count($a); $i < $c; print($a[$i]."\n"), $i++); >> >> think the point of this is to count the items in an array without count >> mate :p

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Stut
On 17 Nov 2008, at 14:31, Nathan Rixham wrote: if you really want a challenge try this one.. task: add the numbers 5 and 17 together, using php, without using the + operator. fill it in: function add($a , $b) { //code here but no + - / * operators return $answer; } echo add(5, 17); Elemen

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Jochem Maas
Nathan Rixham schreef: > Jochem Maas wrote: >> $a = range(1,10); >> for ($i = 0, $c = count($a); $i < $c; print($a[$i]."\n"), $i++); > > think the point of this is to count the items in an array without count > mate :p no point in the above you could just: > $c = count($a); I thought the point wa

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Nathan Rixham
Jochem Maas wrote: $a = range(1,10); for ($i = 0, $c = count($a); $i < $c; print($a[$i]."\n"), $i++); think the point of this is to count the items in an array without count mate :p no point in the above you could just: $c = count($a); foreach! $a = range(1,10); $c = 0; foreach($a as $b) {

Re: [PHP] while-question

2008-11-17 Thread Jochem Maas
Timo Erbach schreef: > ...but for best performance you should do: > > > $counter = count($array); > for($i = 0; $i < $counter; $i++){ > echo $i . "\n"; > } just for fun: $a = range(1,10); for ($i = 0, $c = count($a); $i < $c; print($a[$i]."\n"), $i++); ... gives an idea of the power and flex

RE: [PHP] while question

2008-11-17 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] ...foreach... [/snip] You could also use a for loop if you wanted to count; for($i = 0; $i < count($array); $i++){ echo $i . "\n"; } -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] while question

2008-11-17 Thread Thodoris
Hi, i'm on PHP training and our lector is telling us that to avoid counting an array item amout thanks count($my_array), he tells we can do: while($my_array) { ... do something } but from experience this is an infinity loop... it should be always something like $count = count($my_array); whil

Re: [PHP] while question

2008-11-17 Thread Stut
On 17 Nov 2008, at 13:01, Alain Roger wrote: i'm on PHP training and our lector is telling us that to avoid counting an array item amout thanks count($my_array), he tells we can do: while($my_array) { ... do something } but from experience this is an infinity loop... it should be always someth