Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Peter Cowburn wrote: > Removing the class name disassociates the method from what it belongs > to. That hurts my brain. Please, don't get rid of the classes. Word. -Hannes -- PHP Webmaster List Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://ww

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Removal of left menu class prefixes for method names since they're already indented within that class name: include/header.inc include/shared-manual.inc

2013-01-08 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Levi Morrison wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: >> I beg you to stop introducing more and more coding styles. >> >> It is completely irrelevant how much readable you think it is. >> Consistency throughout the project is of much gre

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] prototype menu problem

2013-01-08 Thread Daniel Convissor
On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 03:53:32AM -0800, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > I imagine you need to do a hard refresh in your browser as I saw quite > a few changes to that recently. There needs to be a means to break up the main navigation layer the stuff below it, please. See how the "Help" item is pushe

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Updating the beta green bar at the top to be nicer and fit in with the theme: styles/home.css

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
That's unrelated to this commit, the changes for that are in the other thread, we should talk about it there. I only updated doc.css in this commit. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Levi Morrison wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Paul Dragoonis > wrote: > > Here's the screenshot of what

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Updating the beta green bar at the top to be nicer and fit in with the theme: styles/home.css

2013-01-08 Thread Levi Morrison
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Paul Dragoonis wrote: > Here's the screenshot of what this change looks like, for anyone who wants > to see it: http://puu.sh/1Lgkp > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Paul Dragoonis wrote: > >> Commit:0b500833f97647036ca1b50574f4a4c9fc3a9453 >> Author:P

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Updating the beta green bar at the top to be nicer and fit in with the theme: styles/home.css

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
Here's the screenshot of what this change looks like, for anyone who wants to see it: http://puu.sh/1Lgkp On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Paul Dragoonis wrote: > Commit:0b500833f97647036ca1b50574f4a4c9fc3a9453 > Author:Paul Dragoonis Tue, 8 Jan 2013 > 17:18:57 + > Parents:

[PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Updating the beta green bar at the top to be nicer and fit in with the theme: styles/home.css

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
Commit:0b500833f97647036ca1b50574f4a4c9fc3a9453 Author:Paul Dragoonis Tue, 8 Jan 2013 17:18:57 + Parents: 3a9bb441c1aeaebe6cd355a074eeb6c7322f520a Branches: master Link: http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b500833f97647036ca1b50574f4a4c9fc3a9453 Log:

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
I can stick a subtle grey title above the methods stating 'Methods', that'd let the audience double-realise they're looking at methods, even though it's obvious since they're in a class's declaration page. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Levi Morrison wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Pe

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Levi Morrison
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Peter Cowburn wrote: > On 8 January 2013 16:34, Paul Dragoonis wrote: >> I was under the impression those were static methods, then we should >> DEFINITELY get rid of this crappy class prefix on the left. Wether it's >> nice or not from a UI standpoint, it's funda

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] PHP for Windows x64

2013-01-08 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Jorge F. Hernandez wrote: > Hey guys, can you get and post this in your website? or at least post where > to get the x64 deps for PHP-SDK so we can build it. We do not support x64 yet. Not all deps are available for x64 either. Also keep in mind that there is

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Peter Cowburn
On 8 January 2013 16:34, Paul Dragoonis wrote: > I was under the impression those were static methods, then we should > DEFINITELY get rid of this crappy class prefix on the left. Wether it's > nice or not from a UI standpoint, it's fundamentally broken and misleading > and should be removed from

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Removal of left menu class prefixes for method names since they're already indented within that class name: include/header.inc include/shared-manual.inc

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
I'm not familiar with PHD, if someone who's familiar can make the change at the lower level then that would be useful. Are you willing to make this change Hannes ? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Levi Morrison wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: > > I beg you to

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Removal of left menu class prefixes for method names since they're already indented within that class name: include/header.inc include/shared-manual.inc

2013-01-08 Thread Levi Morrison
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > I beg you to stop introducing more and more coding styles. > > It is completely irrelevant how much readable you think it is. > Consistency throughout the project is of much greater value then > random coding styles. In principal I agree

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Removal of left menu class prefixes for method names since they're already indented within that class name: include/header.inc include/shared-manual.inc

2013-01-08 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:29 AM, Levi Morrison wrote: >> @@ -575,12 +575,18 @@ function manual_setup_beta($setup) { >> >> $siblings = array(); >> foreach($setup["toc"] as $entry) { >> +// We strip out any class prefix here, we only want method names >> +$methodname = $entr

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Removal of left menu class prefixes for method names since they're already indented within that class name: include/header.inc include/shared-manual.inc

2013-01-08 Thread Hannes Magnusson
I beg you to stop introducing more and more coding styles. It is completely irrelevant how much readable you think it is. Consistency throughout the project is of much greater value then random coding styles. This is also going to create a little weirdness, as all links to those methods are usin

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Removal of left menu class prefixes for method names since they're already indented within that class name: include/header.inc include/shared-manual.inc

2013-01-08 Thread Levi Morrison
> @@ -575,12 +575,18 @@ function manual_setup_beta($setup) { > > $siblings = array(); > foreach($setup["toc"] as $entry) { > +// We strip out any class prefix here, we only want method names > +$methodname = $entry[1]; > +if(strpos($entry[1], '::') !== false) { > +

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Turning beta into production

2013-01-08 Thread Levi Morrison
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Levi Morrison > wrote: > >> If we probide beta=0 option I think we will wind up in the same > >> situation, stalled effort as people just set their preferences to > >> beta=0 "until the new look is finis

[PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Removal of left menu class prefixes for method names since they're already indented within that class name: include/header.inc include/shared-manual.inc

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
Commit:16a31cfa93e9bc1042310c61f8172dccacdb94ad Author:Paul Dragoonis Tue, 8 Jan 2013 17:07:04 + Parents: 9f44618c52fcaa75bcb9ffc9e2b786cd1eab9828 Branches: master Link: http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=commitdiff;h=16a31cfa93e9bc1042310c61f8172dccacdb94ad Log:

[PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Stewart Lord
Did you try css break word? It would be simpler, but it would break in a less controlled way. On Jan 8, 2013, at 6:35 AM, Paul Dragoonis wrote: > I have created a patch that existed on the old php.net but not on the new > one. basically it injects a hidden after the "::" characters so the > m

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Turning beta into production

2013-01-08 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Levi Morrison wrote: >> If we probide beta=0 option I think we will wind up in the same >> situation, stalled effort as people just set their preferences to >> beta=0 "until the new look is finished". > > This is just one more reason to not launch it until it is be

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
Nope, i wasn't making any major fundamental changes in PHD or any system for this, it' just a cosmetic change right before it outputs it. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Levi Morrison wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Paul Dragoonis > wrote: > > I've made the change, by removing the clas

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Levi Morrison
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Paul Dragoonis wrote: > I've made the change, by removing the class name only for left menu method > names, here's the preview: http://puu.sh/1LeWU > > Feedback? I like it. Not sure what else to say. Did you modify PHD for this change or else? -- PHP Webmaster L

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
I've made the change, by removing the class name only for left menu method names, here's the preview: http://puu.sh/1LeWU Feedback? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Paul Dragoonis wrote: > I was under the impression those were static methods, then we should > DEFINITELY get rid of this crappy c

[PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: More mosquitoes....: include/email-validation.inc

2013-01-08 Thread Daniel P. Brown
Commit:083185d3fc188a82dd8aafd46af810f454735e94 Author:Daniel P. Brown Tue, 8 Jan 2013 11:44:07 -0500 Parents: 9f44618c52fcaa75bcb9ffc9e2b786cd1eab9828 Branches: master Link: http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=commitdiff;h=083185d3fc188a82dd8aafd46af810f454735e94 Log:

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
I was under the impression those were static methods, then we should DEFINITELY get rid of this crappy class prefix on the left. Wether it's nice or not from a UI standpoint, it's fundamentally broken and misleading and should be removed from there, not even considering design things. I'm going to

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
>> > >> The sidebar is larger now to help compensate for this but doesn't > >> solve the problem. There was an idea to remove the class-name from the > >> methods altogether. I personally like the idea but what do you guys > >> think? > > > > > plus using the class::method format can a little bit

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
I also think having the rule class::method syntax on the left here is quite redundant because it's repeated 3 times on the page. already as the page title, and in the 'description' field, reference the screenshot i posted above. should we give it a shot ? (welcome GoogleGuy) On Tue, Jan 8, 2013

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Levi Morrison
Including Sherif (aka GoogleGuy). He's been a fairly active participant so he should be included in the loop. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Paul Dragoonis wrote: > I'm in favour of this. See this screenshot [1] we already know we're inside > the class since it's large text, has a purple left si

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
I'm in favour of this. See this screenshot [1] we already know we're inside the class since it's large text, has a purple left side and the methods are indented within it too. [1] http://puu.sh/1Lery On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Levi Morrison wrote: > The sidebar is larger now to help compen

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Levi Morrison
The sidebar is larger now to help compensate for this but doesn't solve the problem. There was an idea to remove the class-name from the methods altogether. I personally like the idea but what do you guys think? -- PHP Webmaster List Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http:

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
I wasn't aware it breaks CTR+F usage. I'll think of another workaround since I feel this particular issue is a blocker stopping us from going to production with the new theme. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Paul Dragoonis > wrote: > >

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Turning beta into production

2013-01-08 Thread Levi Morrison
> If we probide beta=0 option I think we will wind up in the same > situation, stalled effort as people just set their preferences to > beta=0 "until the new look is finished". This is just one more reason to not launch it until it is better. I think that there has been a reasonable amount of codi

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Paul Dragoonis wrote: > I have created a patch that existed on the old php.net but not on the new > one. basically it injects a hidden after the "::" characters so the > method name bumps onto the next line if the width is too large. I hate the fact oldweb does i

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Turning beta into production

2013-01-08 Thread Hannes Magnusson
I really hate this new gmail composing interface that makes it really difficult not to top-post. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Paul Dragoonis wrote: > I like your optimistic ideas Hannes. > > I honestly think the new one is almost ready if we decide on the most > mission critical bugs to be res

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] PHP for Windows x64

2013-01-08 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Jorge F. Hernandez wrote: > All I saw in PHP Internals Windows was one for x86 not for x64. > please don't top post on this list. if you really can't find the mails in that thread where x64 was discussed then here are some direct links to the invidual mails: http:

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] PHP for Windows x64

2013-01-08 Thread Jorge F. Hernandez
All I saw in PHP Internals Windows was one for x86 not for x64. Jorge Hernandez 165 East 115th Street #4B New York, NY 10029 jor...@fsbcomputers.com tel: fax: mobile: 646-403-9802 646-519-4352 646-262-1908 http://www.fsbcomputers.com -- Original Message -- From: "Ferenc Kovacs"

[PHP-WEBMASTER] Line breaks on long class::method names.

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
I have created a patch that existed on the old php.net but not on the new one. basically it injects a hidden after the "::" characters so the method name bumps onto the next line if the width is too large. See this screenshot: http://puu.sh/1LcK0 Are you guys happy with this solution? I nobody h

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Turning beta into production

2013-01-08 Thread Paul Dragoonis
I like your optimistic ideas Hannes. I honestly think the new one is almost ready if we decide on the most mission critical bugs to be resolved, and we resolve them, we should be able to just switch. NB: We can add a suttle bar at the top saying to people, "view this page in the old style", so th

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] PHP for Windows x64

2013-01-08 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Hannes Magnusson < hannes.magnus...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Jorge F. Hernandez > wrote: > > Hey guys, can you get and post this in your website? or at least post > where > > to get the x64 deps for PHP-SDK so we can build it. > > Is it

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] PHP for Windows x64

2013-01-08 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Jorge F. Hernandez wrote: > Hey guys, can you get and post this in your website? or at least post where > to get the x64 deps for PHP-SDK so we can build it. Is it not available on http://windows.php.net ? If not, you'll have to ask the guys on internals-...@lists

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Turning beta into production

2013-01-08 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Stewart Lord wrote: > On Dec 27, 2012, at 7:13 AM, Adam Harvey wrote: >> 3. When should we launch the site? >> >> As far as I'm aware, there aren't any functionality gaps relative to >> the stable site now. The design seems locked down, and this has been >> draggin