[PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/bugs: Add Lior Kaplan to sec developers, and myself to trusted...: include/trusted-devs.php

2014-06-15 Thread Zeev Suraski
Commit:230365f6a9c9305a19bcaa37cf2ef4e752ee2aff Author:Zeev Suraski Sun, 15 Jun 2014 13:05:30 +0300 Parents: 3bfd2c544c6c560d19a0df7649a863434556f652 Branches: master Link: http://git.php.net/?p=web/bugs.git;a=commitdiff;h=230365f6a9c9305a19bcaa37cf2ef4e752ee2aff Log

[PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-29 Thread Zeev Suraski
> I meant that a note to webmaster@ would have alerted the rest of the web > team and we would have avoided this whole mess. Agreed. Zeev -- PHP Webmaster List Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-29 Thread Zeev Suraski
> Joe, the root problem here is that turning www.php.net into a developer > blog is a decision that takes a bit more than a couple of people agreeing > late > at night on irc when many of us were asleep. At the very least a quick > email > to webmaster@ would have been in order. I want to point ou

[PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-29 Thread Zeev Suraski
Zeev, it's cowardly to say "I don't know who it was" or "it doesn't matter who it was", you can read my name on the commit, and know full well who it was, if you have something to say, say it. Joe, I think you just derailed this conversation in a manner that I’m surprised so many people answere

[PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
> I am about 99% confident you have karma; why haven't you done it? After 2815 days from the previous commit, I've finally committed something new to phpweb... I unlinked the news entry from the homepage but for now kept it on the 2014 archive so that whomever kept links they'd still work. Zeev

[PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Fix to actually show the news entry in the archive but not in the front page: archive/2014.php archive/entries/2014-05-27-1.xml

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
Commit:d2df82fbd0466dd5f4bee6a9b90d9baf85151626 Author:z...@php.net Thu, 29 May 2014 00:26:22 +0300 Parents: b1d66cc2e459c504fef1cf72e15ca23566f6a4d4 Branches: master Link: http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2df82fbd0466dd5f4bee6a9b90d9baf85151626 Log: F

[PHP-WEBMASTER] com web/php: Unlink phpng announcement from the front page: archive/entries/2014-05-27-1.xml

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
Commit:b1d66cc2e459c504fef1cf72e15ca23566f6a4d4 Author:z...@php.net Thu, 29 May 2014 00:19:26 +0300 Parents: 1d4c36b03a54a867e9a2abd8681d1f1269234788 Branches: master Link: http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1d66cc2e459c504fef1cf72e15ca23566f6a4d4 Log: U

[PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
> I am about 99% confident you have karma; why haven't you done it? Because I haven't touched the phpweb repository for probably around a decade. I admit I'm looking into doing it right now, but hoped that those who did it will undo it. Zeev -- PHP Webmaster List Mailing List (http://www.php.n

[PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
Ferenc, Nobody here plays a blame game, like I said, who did it doesn’t really matter. The fact that this is still on our front page *does**.* Can we, for the love of PHP, remove this message from www.php.net’sfront page? Let’s keep the message but unlink it from the h

RE: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
> Zeev, > > I did not post the news entry; I am only trying to improve it Sorry, I misunderstood when you said you were one of the 3 which were there when it was conceived. Zeev -- PHP Webmaster List Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
I agree that this doesn't belong to the frontpage, nor do we did ever have stuff like this there. But I also think that removing it would do more harm than good at this point. Why? What’s bad about properly retracting it and explaining it wasn’t meant for www.php.net? I’m not arguing for a 40

RE: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
Personally I think that it would be counter-productive to remove this entry now, I think the best course of action would be improving the entry to remove the controversial parts (what you already mentioned doing it yourself), and as nobody argued against the intention of the post, I think it would

RE: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
> Where does it say we need to reach a consensus on what we put on our > homepage? You're right, we actually don't. There's an established track record of what kind of material goes onto www.php.net. This post clearly isn't it. I'm really not sure why you're still fighting this. If I were in y

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
> On 28 במאי 2014, at 18:34, Levi Morrison wrote: > > All of these things > are *good things*; let's stop the flaming and raging and be > constructive. Levi, There's not raging or flaming. I don't think there's any hard feelings by anybody. We just want to remedy the situation. > I'm currentl

[PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
, May 28, 2014 5:22 PM *To:* guilhermebla...@gmail.com *Cc:* Zeev Suraski; Philip Sturgeon; Ferenc Kovacs; PHP Internals; php-webmaster *Subject:* Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, guilhermebla...@gmail.com < guilhermebla...@gmail.com> wrote:

[PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
> Unfortunately it seems this has been picked up already by a lot of folks incl. I > just got a press inquiry on it. > While my instinct would say just remove it, I think it's not an option anymore. > I think we need to write something very short and sweet that has zero > opinion and only fact and

[PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
> Like Ferenc said, there's a tone in that message that is not subjective. > I'm not > even sure what it is, but it looks (or reads) awkward, and is unlike > anything I > can remember in the last 17+ years on www.php.net. s/not subjective/subjective -- PHP Webmaster List Mailing List (http://www

[PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
> I'm not actually sure what it is opinionated about. If it's in regards to > the > "maybe JIT someday" aspects then that is clearly an open-ended comment, > but mostly there to say "this is not actually a JIT" which did need to be > said. Like Ferenc said, there's a tone in that message that is n

[PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
> In all, the PHP community at large is confused thanks to people > prematurely > announcing stuff from the mailing list like its news, then adding their > opinions > on top of it without understanding a damn thing they're talking about. But the post on www.php.net is somewhat similar in that rega

[PHP-WEBMASTER] RE: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry

2014-05-28 Thread Zeev Suraski
> Would like to know what do you guys think about the best step, I see the > following possible options: I'd remove it at this point without caring too much about news, search engines or censorship. I don't remember any sort of message quite like it in www.php.net's history and I don't see a reas

RE: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-11 Thread Zeev Suraski
... as long as we place the right disclaimer there too, e.g., "To the best of our knowledge PHP falls under XYZ, but note that we take absolutely no responsibility for this, whether express or implied." Otherwise, Hannes has a point. Zeev > -Original Message- > From: Pierre Joye [mai