Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-14 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Rasmus, On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On 11/09/2012 12:28 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: >> On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 10:32 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: >>> >>> Other projects, such as Apache's Perl distribution, mod_perl, >>> classify as 5D002[2], but they distribute Op

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-14 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 11/09/2012 12:28 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 10:32 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: >> >> Other projects, such as Apache's Perl distribution, mod_perl, >> classify as 5D002[2], but they distribute OpenSSL as part of the >> pre-compiled binary package. OpenSSL, of course,

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-11 Thread Adam Harvey
On 12 November 2012 09:38, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On 11/11/2012 05:27 PM, Adam Harvey wrote: >> -1 for me. I don't see any reason to set a precedent that we're going >> to start listing every country's export regulations, and I note that >> none of Perl, Python or Ruby feel the need to include th

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-11 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 11/11/2012 05:27 PM, Adam Harvey wrote: > -1 for me. I don't see any reason to set a precedent that we're going > to start listing every country's export regulations, and I note that > none of Perl, Python or Ruby feel the need to include this information > on their download pages. Plus, this is

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-11 Thread Adam Harvey
On 11 November 2012 22:59, Sascha Schumann wrote: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >> ... as long as we place the right disclaimer there too, e.g., "To the best >> of our knowledge PHP falls under XYZ, but note that we take absolutely no >> responsibility for this, whether express or

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-11 Thread Andi Gutmans
mailto:pierre@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:45 AM >>> To: Hannes Magnusson >>> Cc: Andrew A. Forrest; Johannes Schlüter; secur...@php.net; php- >>> webmas...@lists.php.net >>> Subject: Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for

RE: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-11 Thread Sascha Schumann
...@php.net; php- > > webmas...@lists.php.net > > Subject: Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP > > > > Hannes, > > > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Hannes Magnusson > > wrote: > > > No. We are not putting random stupid specific countr

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-11 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > ... as long as we place the right disclaimer there too, e.g., "To the best of > our knowledge PHP falls under XYZ, but note that we take absolutely no > responsibility for this, whether express or implied." Right, that's the idea. >

RE: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-11 Thread Zeev Suraski
rom: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:45 AM > To: Hannes Magnusson > Cc: Andrew A. Forrest; Johannes Schlüter; secur...@php.net; php- > webmas...@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP > > Hannes,

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-11 Thread Pierre Joye
Hannes, On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > No. We are not putting random stupid specific country laws on the download > page. With all respects, this is not your call, by any mean. > We have no lawyers to verify this crap, and we have no interest in > validating the oth

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-10 Thread Hannes Magnusson
No. We are not putting random stupid specific country laws on the download page. We have no lawyers to verify this crap, and we have no interest in validating the other 203 countries laws. -Hannes On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > we should really add this info to the download

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-09 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 10:32 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: > > Other projects, such as Apache's Perl distribution, mod_perl, > classify as 5D002[2], but they distribute OpenSSL as part of the > pre-compiled binary package. OpenSSL, of course, would be 5D002, but > because of the unrestricted, pub

Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: ECCN and CCATS for PHP

2012-11-09 Thread Daniel Brown
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > we should really add this info to the download page :) I agree to having information on the page, but I'm not entirely sure the TSU exception applies here. About three weeks ago, I was on the phone with reps from the State Department a