php-windows Digest 17 Nov 2012 10:20:01 -0000 Issue 4080

Topics (messages 30969 through 30972):

Re: Dropping support of Windows XP
        30969 by: Lester Caine
        30970 by: Ferenc Kovacs
        30971 by: Guillaume Rossolini
        30972 by: Pierre Joye

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Mayur Patil wrote:
    Today with New release of version 5.5.0 PHP has achieved
    great development milestone. But has dropped support
    for XP. I am wondering that most of people still using Windows
    XP while most them has shifted from SP2 to SP3  too.Then
    why developers have chosen this option?? Still expecting support
    for Windows XP .

I still have customer sites running on W2k simply because it is impossible to replace some of the hardware at an economic cost, and we have spares that will keep things working for many years. These will also remain on PHP5.2 as it's not worth risking upgrading them. They are windows sites simply because that is all the local IT departments would let us install in the mid 2000's. All new Apache/PHP setups are now supplied on Linux as they run at least 3 times faster than on Windows anyway.

Vista was kicked in to touch many years ago, and while W7 is suitable for new machines, XP will be deployed for a few more years yet. It's much the same discussion as the fact that the majority of PHP users are still on PHP5.2, it works perfectly and to change involves a lot of expense. Which the customers do not have. Personally I'm not going to be deploying PHP5.5 any time soon so it's not a problem. It will be a good few years before we can close down the PHP5.2 systems, and so I'll stick with the PHP5.4 setup we are now upgrading customer sites to.

The current development plan PHP is working to is simply not user friendly so little things like dropping XP support just make the decision NOT to move forward all the easier!

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Hi Mayur,

The Mainstream support for Windows Xp has ended on April 14, 2009 (more
than 3,5 years ago), and the extended support will end at April 8, 2014, so
there will be less and less people still using Xp.
About why the windows team dropped the support for Xp, you can see some
information in the following mails:
http://grokbase.com/p/php/php-internals-win/1232sef84x/internals-win-v5-4-changelog-comment-regarding-windows
http://grokbase.com/p/php/php-internals-win/12322bhfcg/internals-win-about-stopping-of-build-for-windows-of-php-5-4-0

the second mail was a reply for your same question back in march.



On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Mayur Patil <ram.nath241...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello All,
>
>    Today with New release of version 5.5.0 PHP has achieved
>
>    great development milestone. But has dropped support
>
>    for XP. I am wondering that most of people still using Windows
>
>    XP while most them has shifted from SP2 to SP3  too.Then
>
>    why developers have chosen this option?? Still expecting support
>
>    for Windows XP .
>
> --
>
> *Cheers,
> Mayur*
>



-- 
Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu

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On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Mayur Patil <ram.nath241...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello All,
>
>    Today with New release of version 5.5.0 PHP has achieved
>
>    great development milestone. But has dropped support
>
>    for XP. I am wondering that most of people still using Windows
>
>    XP while most them has shifted from SP2 to SP3  too.Then
>
>    why developers have chosen this option?? Still expecting support
>
>    for Windows XP .
>
> --
>
> *Cheers,
> Mayur*
>


Hi there,

In the spirit of going forward, please consider that your web server is
probably not an XP machine but some more advanced flavour of Window. Or, if
you are not so lucky and your target server is unable able to support PHP
5.5, you probably have other things to worry about than being able to keep
up with the very latest PHP versions at all times...

That said, if your target server is in fact PHP 5.5 capable, while your
development machine is not, why not install virtual hosts? Try any of the
virtualization software out there, they are great. And as a first bonus,
you will have less headaches trying to figure out why your code works
locally but not when pushed to production.

Regards,

--
Guillaume Rossolini

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hi,

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Mayur Patil <ram.nath241...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
>    Today with New release of version 5.5.0 PHP has achieved
>    great development milestone. But has dropped support
>    for XP. I am wondering that most of people still using Windows
>    XP while most them has shifted from SP2 to SP3  too.Then
>    why developers have chosen this option?? Still expecting support
>    for Windows XP .

Nothing forces you to update to 5.5. 5.4 supports XP and 2003 and will
do for its full life (3 years).

Both XP and 2k3 are not supported anymore by Microsoft, this is the
right time to reduce our workload and improve the core by supporting
less than 10 years old Windows versions.

Cheers,
--
Pierre

@pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org

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