[PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Improving the documentation

2007-02-11 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Philip Olson wrote: There are 137 open documentation bugs and many of these require PHP internals intervention. I don't know the best way to help that happen aside from maybe going through them all and updating the summaries (and appending categories to those summaries) but then what? A

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Improving the documentation

2007-02-11 Thread Mehdi Achour
Hello Wez, Thanks for your action. BTW, we need to stick to one tag :) I proposed @doc, you implemented [DOC] .. we should pick one syntax and stick to it. By the way, Etienne (cc'ed) started to work on the web interface I described in my first email. You may want to get in touch with him to

[PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Improving the documentation

2007-02-11 Thread Mehdi Achour
As Phillip stated, we already have a set of tools that points us to the problems in the documentation. We also are switching the documentation to a clearer format, which we help us to have more accurate results on this, while making docs editing simpler for you guys. I've noted your periodical

[PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Improving the documentation

2007-02-11 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Mehdi Achour wrote: Thank you all for your replies, I'm happy to see that the snowball effect started! Just make sure that you take this momentum and directly contact people who's offers you want to take up so that real world effect can be derived from all of the offers. regards, Lukas

[PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Improving the documentation

2007-02-11 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Phillip and I had a chat about this last night and I think we have a strategy for appealing to the geek in all of us. -Rasmus Mehdi Achour wrote: As Phillip stated, we already have a set of tools that points us to the problems in the documentation. We also are switching the documentation to

[PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Improving the documentation

2007-02-10 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
We, and by we I mean all of us who write code and hope that divine intervention will take care of the documentation, need to do a better job helping out divinity. A DOC tag in cvs commit messages seems like a small and easy thing for us to add to the process, so if you feel that will be enough to

[PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Improving the documentation

2007-02-10 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Perhaps we can do more though. Maybe you guys could periodically update internals on problem areas in the docs. Places where you feel things are vague and really could use the guy who wrote the code to get off his ass and explain how it works. Or maybe we could get

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Improving the documentation

2007-02-10 Thread Wez Furlong
I tweaked loginfo.pl so that if the commit message contains [DOC], phpdoc@ will be Cc'd. Hopefully that'll help in some small way. --Wez. On 2/10/07, Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We, and by we I mean all of us who write code and hope that divine intervention will take care of the

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Improving the documentation

2007-02-10 Thread Etienne Kneuss
Hi, I also made a mailing list scanner[1] that fills a DB on doc.php.net. Every entries can then be commented, tagged as TODO etc... The scanner itself is ready, the interface still need some work. Maybe a mix of both ? [1] http://colder.ch/repository/php/php.net/cvslogger.php Wez Furlong

[PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Improving the documentation

2007-02-10 Thread Richard Lynch
On Sat, February 10, 2007 5:41 am, Ronald Chmara wrote: Scenario one: All behavior changes must be documented, this tag is always there, and thus not useful. I beg to differ. If every change was documented to the degree that it needed documentation, the tag would be useful still: USEFUL: -

Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Improving the documentation

2007-02-10 Thread Philip Olson
On Feb 10, 2007, at 8:38 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: We, and by we I mean all of us who write code and hope that divine intervention will take care of the documentation, need to do a better job helping out divinity. A DOC tag in cvs commit messages seems like a small and easy thing for us to