Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-10 Thread Stig S. Bakken
On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 02:26, James Cox wrote: - a small number of people have acclaim for the documentation. And whatever anyone might say, it's not edited by Stig and Egon, but by many more people. People like Harmut should be on the front page of the manual, and he's not - and

Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-10 Thread Stig S. Bakken
On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 21:55, Georg Richter wrote: On Wednesday, 6. February 2002 02:26, James Cox wrote: As far as the actual license goes, GPL is probably not where we want to be - it's something i personally shy away from due to it's restrictiveness. There are many other open source

RE: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-09 Thread James Cox
Guys, has anything happened with this? Egon, have you started to contact those who currently hold the license? Thanks, james

RE: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-09 Thread James Cox
: James Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 2:37 PM To: phpdoc Subject: RE: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License Guys, has anything happened with this? Egon, have you started to contact those who currently hold the license? Thanks, james

RE: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-09 Thread Zak Greant
On Sat, 2002-02-09 at 07:36, James Cox wrote: Guys, has anything happened with this? Egon, have you started to contact those who currently hold the license? I have contacted New Riders regarding the license for the Zend engine docs. I have yet to hear a response. I will ask again in a

Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-09 Thread Egon Schmid
From: James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: phpdoc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: RE: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License has anything happened with this? Egon, have you started to contact those who currently hold the license? No, I think every copyright

RE: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-09 Thread James Cox
Egon, from ZendAPI LICENSE file: OPEN PUBLICATION LICENSE I. REQUIREMENTS ON BOTH UNMODIFIED AND MODIFIED VERSIONS The Open Publication works may be reproduced and distributed in whole or in part, in any medium physical or electronic, provided that the terms of this license are adhered to, and

RE: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-09 Thread James Cox
As far as the license clauses that Rasmus mentioned, i think these are it: VI. ADDITIONAL LICENSE TERMS A. Distribution of substantively modified versions of this document is prohibited without the explicit permission of the copyright holder. Substantive modification is defined as a change

Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-09 Thread Egon Schmid
From: James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Egon, from ZendAPI LICENSE file: I have read this myself. No need to post it to the mailing list. You can read it also in Till and Tobia´s book ´Web Application Development with PHP 4.0´. -Egon

Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-09 Thread Egon Schmid
From: James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as the license clauses that Rasmus mentioned, i think these are it: VI. ADDITIONAL LICENSE TERMS A. Distribution of substantively modified versions of this document is prohibited without the explicit permission of the copyright holder.

Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-09 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
With that modification it would no longer be the original Open Publication License. And what about the PEAR documentation? The original is fine, as it states 'The copyright holder'. So this need no modification. PEAR doc license is not our business. It's a different story, and as PEAR docs are

RE: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-07 Thread James Cox
On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 02:26, James Cox wrote: - a small number of people have acclaim for the documentation. And whatever anyone might say, it's not edited by Stig and Egon, but by many more people. People like Harmut should be on the front page of the manual, and he's not - and

Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-06 Thread Mark Kronsbein
read the archives, and no Egon, i don't want to hear from your lawyers. *g* - a small number of people have acclaim for the documentation. And whatever anyone might say, it's not edited by Stig and Egon, but by many Yes. At http://www.php.net/manual/en/copyright.php it says This

Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-06 Thread Egon Schmid
From: Mark Kronsbein [EMAIL PROTECTED] - a small number of people have acclaim for the documentation. And whatever anyone might say, it's not edited by Stig and Egon, but by many Yes. At http://www.php.net/manual/en/copyright.php it says This manual is Copyright [...] by the PHP

Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-06 Thread Mark Kronsbein
You haven´t understood all terms. The members of this group are members of the PHP Documentation Group and not only the doc team. All members (except the editors of other languages) are working since 1997 for the PHP manual. Okay. Perhaps I misunderstood this. I have asked Hartmut to be

Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-06 Thread Georg Richter
Hello Egon, I have also asked about the meeting in March. On this theme I got also no response. I know only that this meeting will be held in March 9 - 10, 2002 in or near Stuttgart. I gave you response during our last usergroup meeting in January. The offical invitation for PHP Doc

Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-06 Thread Georg Richter
On Wednesday, 6. February 2002 02:26, James Cox wrote: As far as the actual license goes, GPL is probably not where we want to be - it's something i personally shy away from due to it's restrictiveness. There are many other open source documentation licenses, and we should probably be

Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-06 Thread Egon Schmid
From: Georg Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wednesday, 6. February 2002 02:26, James Cox wrote: As far as the actual license goes, GPL is probably not where we want to be - it's something i personally shy away from due to it's restrictiveness. There are many other open source documentation

Re: [PHP-DOC] the PHP Documentation License

2002-02-06 Thread Lars Torben Wilson
On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 14:03, Egon Schmid wrote: From: Georg Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where is the problem to change license to OPL or OPL related license? Currently the license and politics of their holder(s) really doesn't improve the Manual (and the spirit of Open Source). Have