Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-28 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Jérémy Lal wrote: > I can prepare a patch for nodejs package. Thanks! [...] > - I can't help but talk about "npm", an essential development tool distributed > in latest nodejs (can be compared to ruby's gem). It allows one to install and > publish npm packages to a common registry. > It will nee

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-28 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Jérémy Lal , 2011-11-29, 01:23: Is there a simple way to search all packages having a node shebang ? http://lintian.debian.org/tags/unusual-interpreter.html (Unfortunately, the list might be incomplete because the lintian lab is still a bit broken; see bug #641468.) -- Jakub Wilk

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-28 Thread Jérémy Lal
On 29/11/2011 00:16, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Ian Jackson wrote: > >> I think the best way to fix this is to prepare both renaming uploads >> in advance, and allow either of the two contending maintainers to >> upload both packages simultaneously. > > Thanks, that sounds sensible to me. > > Since

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-28 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Ian Jackson wrote: > I think the best way to fix this is to prepare both renaming uploads > in advance, and allow either of the two contending maintainers to > upload both packages simultaneously. Thanks, that sounds sensible to me. Since this still seems to be stalled, I would like to hear from

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-16 Thread Damien Gardner Jnr
On 17/11/2011, at 7:04 AM, Joey Hess wrote: > A similar case with a large userbase is the syslog daemon. Debian used > to ship standard with a /usr/sbin/syslogd. Then it was replaced with a > /usr/sbin/rsyslog, from a different package. Since rsyslog is Priority > important, it gets installed autom

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
Patrick Ouellette wrote: > The syslog case does not apply since the *standard* syslog was changed > at the distribution level and another package *provides* the same > functionality. Users could, if the old syslog package is still in the > archive, install the old syslog as an alternative. Sure,

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-16 Thread Patrick Ouellette
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 04:04:36PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > One user claimed it would inconvenience users, but provided no supporting > details about why a user would run it manually. > http://lists.debian.org/debian-hams/2010/08/msg00032.html > The package's own documentation states "Node is

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Who would refer to the node binary as provided by the ham package node > > except for the inetd and the ax25d superservers? (Serious question.) > > Did anyone address above question already? One user claimed it would inconvenience users, but provided no supporting de

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-11-09 at 08:33am, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2011-11-08, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > > I hope to avoid any issues with breaking old boxes with the eventual > > resolution of the issue. > > I don't know what's wrong with Jonathan Nieder's advise in [0] about > helping users with the conversio

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Patrick Ouellette wrote: > Earlier when this particular situation was being discussed, someone mentioned > the generic name "node" was bad for a computer binary. 10-15 years ago it > was a different landscape. The node.js folks should probably have given > more thought to their binary's name give

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-09 Thread Patrick Ouellette
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 08:33:38AM +, Philipp Kern wrote: > > On 2011-11-08, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > > I hope to avoid any issues with breaking old boxes with the eventual > > resolution of the issue. > > I don't know what's wrong with Jonathan Nieder's advise in [0] about helping > users

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-09 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-11-08, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > I hope to avoid any issues with breaking old boxes with the eventual > resolution of the issue. I don't know what's wrong with Jonathan Nieder's advise in [0] about helping users with the conversion automatically. That's how it's usually done. He even pr

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-08 Thread Patrick Ouellette
On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 07:16:35AM +1100, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: > > I have to pop my head up from my lurker-hole here, and say that I'm a more > than a little confused, why a 15 year old application should change its name > at all? Even the Node.js wiki makes it clear that the application s

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-07 Thread Damien Gardner Jnr
On 07/11/2011, at 2:20 PM, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Should the binary on the ham radio side be called ax25-node, or > LinuxNode, or something like that? Given a proposed name, I would be > happy enough to assume I have your blessing and start sending patches > to the node bug. :) I have to pop my

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-06 Thread Jonathan Nieder
(+cc: nod...@packages.debian.org. Sorry for the noise.) Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Patrick Ouellette wrote: >> You claim to not use either package, but yet you advocate for the node.js >> package to keep the executable name "node" - this is strange to me. > > Sorry, I must have been unclear. A few

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-06 Thread Patrick Ouellette
On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 09:20:31PM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > > Hi Pat, > > Patrick Ouellette wrote: > > > The binary on the ham radio side is not "LinuxNode" in package "node" it is > > simply "node" in package "node" > > > > Since you are still concerned with this issue, and neither side

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-06 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi Pat, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > The binary on the ham radio side is not "LinuxNode" in package "node" it is > simply "node" in package "node" > > Since you are still concerned with this issue, and neither side has shown a > willingness to change, I would say the time has come for both packages

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Is anyone maintaining (the ham radio tool) node?

2011-11-06 Thread Patrick Ouellette
On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 01:27:42AM -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > > Hi, > > In February, I wrote[1]: > > > Both LinuxNode (package "node") and node.js (package "nodejs") are > > designed to be accessed through the command name "node". > [...] > > If there is any way I can help, please feel free