Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-19 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Dienstag, den 19.08.2014, 02:13 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Ramacher: > (Dropping J-B from CC. I think this is purely Debian related now.) > > On 2014-08-18 22:37:42, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > > On 2014-08-17 23:22:02, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > > On 16 Aug, Reinhard Tartler wrote : > > > > I

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-19 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2014-08-19 07:46:02, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Sebastian Ramacher > wrote: > > (Dropping J-B from CC. I think this is purely Debian related now.) > > > > On 2014-08-18 22:37:42, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > >> On 2014-08-17 23:22:02, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: >

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-19 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > (Dropping J-B from CC. I think this is purely Debian related now.) > > On 2014-08-18 22:37:42, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: >> On 2014-08-17 23:22:02, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: >> > On 16 Aug, Reinhard Tartler wrote : >> > > I believe that

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-19 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2014-08-19 09:05:52, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 19.08.2014, 02:13 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Ramacher: > > Let me know what you think. > > Looks reasonable! > > I have one suggestion: Couldn't we dynamically populate the > debian/vlc{,-nox}.install files with the plugins, based o

Re: Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-19 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2014-08-19 00:29:43, Edward Wang wrote: > On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 02:13:16 +0200, Sebastian Ramacher > wrote: > >I've pushed a work-in-progress feature/vlc-plugins branch [1]. vlc-nox > >has been left alive. Looking at the popcon data there seems to be > >interest in the package (vlc: 51349 install

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-19 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am Dienstag, den 19.08.2014, 02:13 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Ramacher: > Let me know what you think. Looks reasonable! I have one suggestion: Couldn't we dynamically populate the debian/vlc{,-nox}.install files with the plugins, based on the decision if their dependency check against lib{x11,xcb}

Re: Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-18 Thread Edward Wang
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 02:13:16 +0200, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: I've pushed a work-in-progress feature/vlc-plugins branch [1]. vlc-nox has been left alive. Looking at the popcon data there seems to be interest in the package (vlc: 51349 installs vs. vlc-nox: 53687 installs). I've done the followin

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-18 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
(Dropping J-B from CC. I think this is purely Debian related now.) On 2014-08-18 22:37:42, Sebastian Ramacher wrote: > On 2014-08-17 23:22:02, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > On 16 Aug, Reinhard Tartler wrote : > > > I believe that upstream doesn't care that much about this, because > > > > I reme

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On 18 Aug, Sebastian Ramacher wrote : > On 2014-08-18 14:33:21, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > Le 18/08/2014 13:37, Sebastian Ramacher a écrit : > > >On 2014-08-17 23:22:02, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > >>On 16 Aug, Reinhard Tartler wrote : > > >>>I believe that upstream doesn't care that much ab

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-18 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2014-08-18 14:33:21, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > Le 18/08/2014 13:37, Sebastian Ramacher a écrit : > >On 2014-08-17 23:22:02, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > >>On 16 Aug, Reinhard Tartler wrote : > >>>I believe that upstream doesn't care that much about this, because > >> > >>I remember the idea.

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Le 18/08/2014 13:37, Sebastian Ramacher a écrit : On 2014-08-17 23:22:02, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On 16 Aug, Reinhard Tartler wrote : I believe that upstream doesn't care that much about this, because I remember the idea. Basically, the idea was to split so that servers using VLC to do st

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-18 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2014-08-17 23:22:02, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > On 16 Aug, Reinhard Tartler wrote : > > I believe that upstream doesn't care that much about this, because > > I remember the idea. > > Basically, the idea was to split so that servers using VLC to do > streaming wouldn't need libX11 and all th

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-17 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On 17 Aug, Reinhard Tartler wrote : > However, it turns out that libvlccore dropped some symbols and needs a > SONAME bump: > https://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/vlc-devel/2014-August/099358.html. Thanks a lot for noticing. That's why -preX are useful :) > Once we have a -pre2, we can proceed

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-17 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On 16 Aug, Reinhard Tartler wrote : > I believe that upstream doesn't care that much about this, because I remember the idea. Basically, the idea was to split so that servers using VLC to do streaming wouldn't need libX11 and all the rest. > otherwise I'd expect the Makefiles to be a bit more he

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-17 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On 17 Aug, Sebastian Ramacher wrote : > we are currently discussing the removal of vlc-nox. Unfortunatly, phonon4 on GNU/Linux will depend on libpulse, which will depend on libX11. phonon5 may change this, but I have not seen anything about that yet. I know not much about cytadela, but it seems t

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-17 Thread Mateusz Łukasik
On 17.08.2014 at 03:28 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: Hi, I'm currently fighting with upgrading to VLC 2.2, and noticed that a lot of plugins were shuffled around. I noticed that I'm spending way to much time figuring out what plugin should go to vlc and what plugin should go to vlc-nox. I wonde

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-17 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
On 2014-08-17 12:32:55, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Mateusz Łukasik wrote: > > +1 to drop vlc-nox, albo I think we should making samba plugin as a separate > > package (#729238) it is pretty unnecessary plugin installation on embedded > > systems. > > We need to go

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-17 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Mateusz Łukasik wrote: > +1 to drop vlc-nox, albo I think we should making samba plugin as a separate > package (#729238) it is pretty unnecessary plugin installation on embedded > systems. We need to go through NEW anyway, so now would be a great time for that.

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-17 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On 17 Aug, Reinhard Tartler wrote : > However, it turns out that libvlccore dropped some symbols and needs a > SONAME bump: > https://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/vlc-devel/2014-August/099358.html. > > Once we have a -pre2, we can proceed with uploading to unstable, I guess. The SONAME bump is

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-17 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > Hello, > > On 16 Aug, Reinhard Tartler wrote : >> I'm currently fighting with upgrading to VLC 2.2, and noticed that a >> lot of plugins were shuffled around. I noticed that I'm spending way >> to much time figuring out what plugin sho

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-16 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
Hello, On 16 Aug, Reinhard Tartler wrote : > I'm currently fighting with upgrading to VLC 2.2, and noticed that a > lot of plugins were shuffled around. I noticed that I'm spending way > to much time figuring out what plugin should go to vlc and what plugin > should go to vlc-nox. I wonder if havi

Re: vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently fighting with upgrading to VLC 2.2, and noticed that a > lot of plugins were shuffled around. I noticed that I'm spending way > to much time figuring out what plugin should go to vlc and what plugin > should go to vlc

vlc/vlc-nox distinction

2014-08-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Hi, I'm currently fighting with upgrading to VLC 2.2, and noticed that a lot of plugins were shuffled around. I noticed that I'm spending way to much time figuring out what plugin should go to vlc and what plugin should go to vlc-nox. I wonder if having this split is really worth the effort. How w