]] Michael Biebl
Hi Michael,
thanks for looking into this.
> Tollef, can you run
> systemctl reload syslog-ng.service
> and see if that works?
It seems to work:
: tfheen@minkus ~ > sudo systemctl reload syslog-ng.service
: tfheen@minkus ~ > echo $?
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]] (Yuriy M. Kaminskiy)
> Tollef Fog Heen writes:
>
> > ]] Nikolay Shaplov
> >
> >> Cause this bug affects a lot of cases and there is no way to solve it
> >> without
> >> touching /lib/systemd/system/bind9.service and it is not nice way
t=/usr/sbin/named -4 -f -u bind" >
/etc/systemd/system/bind9.service.d/local.conf
and it'll start with -4.
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t; as conservative as possible.
I think we should have something that's fairly conservative, yes. «As
possible» is too strict. We shouldn't try calling home by default, for
instance.
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I have no idea why you keep resending this. Please stop.
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machines etc. could remove/not install it.
>
> As for the particular "-extras" suffix I don't mind at all changing
> that to something better, of course.
I'd lean slightly the other way, have a systemd-core/systemd-minimal
that includes minimal things and then a syste
found.
minkus%
> Maybe there is some local modification in a drop-in snippet.
>
> Is this issue reproducible (after a daemon-reload/daemon-reexec/system
> reboot)?
Yes.
minkus is minkus.d.o, mips porterbox, not that I think arch makes a
difference here.
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ger Daemon
Documentation=man:syslog-ng(8)
[Service]
Type=notify
Sockets=syslog.socket
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/syslog-ng -F
ExecReload=/bin/kill -HUP $MAINPID
StandardOutput=null
Restart=always
[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
Alias=syslog.service
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being a
> compatibility/ABI symlink to it.
That's a uniliteral move by the sysvinit maintainers without soliciting
input from other init system maintainers.
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> > advise on debian-devel.
> >
> > What is your stand on this?
>
> You *are* allowed to create /etc/inittab when it is missing.
.. but only if it wasn't removed by the sysadmin. Admin changes must be
preserved, including removal.
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iscuss this.
Just ship both a .service file and a init script. Make sure they have
the same name and the .service file will override the init script.
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topped. Is there any way to accomblish this?
What is the underlying problem you're trying to solve?
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]] Cameron Norman
Please trim bits you're not replying to.
> El mar, 21 de oct 2014 a las 10:19 , Tollef Fog Heen
> escribió:
> > ]] Russ Allbery
> >> I would be particularly interested in your take on the analysis
> >> that Steve Langasek posted to the debi
own to bugs in -shim. We therefore don't believe
that is a good choice for desktop users.
Steve's argument is that choosing sysvinit-core over systemd-sysv should
automatically reflect on choosing systemd-shim over systemd-sysv. We do
not necessarily think this is the case and both decisions ne
rvice.
/etc/inittab is a sysvinit-only configuration file, so this is
expected. Arguably, we should warn once if the inittab has been changed
from the shipped default.
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]] Floris
> I know Debian doesn't always have bleeding edge versions, but I was
> wondering if there are plans to pack version 215.
Yes, it's on the list of things we're working on.
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> Given the nature of this metapackage, it should be declared as
> Multi-Arch:init to satisfy init dependencies across multi-arch
> boundaries.
Why would anything depend on init? It's an Essential: yes package, so
you shouldn't add Depends on it.
]] Ansgar Burchardt
> Tollef Fog Heen writes:
> > So we are proposing the following scheme:
> >
> > a/ Upload a new "init" package. This is a new, essential package that
> > will replace sysvinit as the package that ensures your system has an
> >
[2]:
http://people.debian.org/~biebl/systemd-transition/init-system-helper-step1.diff
[3]: http://people.debian.org/~biebl/systemd-transition/sysvinit.diff
[4]:
http://people.debian.org/~biebl/systemd-transition/init-system-helper-step2.diff
[5]: http://people.debian.org/~biebl/systemd-transition/grub
ith no visible
downtime or loss of state.
Those are just a random sample from my colo box, it would be trivial to
find more.
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be used for device locks. You probably
want to use /run/nova or /run/openstack instead.
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]] intrigeri
> tl;dr: Do you think we will have systemd v210+ in Jessie?
Yes.
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]] Christoph Anton Mitterer
> On Fri, 2014-05-23 at 16:46 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>
> > > Sure... but that's how it is... I guess it's absolutely sure that there
> > > will always be software, which doesn't use e.g. NM (and given the issues
> &g
]] Christoph Anton Mitterer
> On Thu, 2014-05-22 at 16:40 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > $network is translated to network.target for LSB services, so it is in
> > fact the same thing.
> Sure...
What's the deal about your use of ellipsises all the time? It looks
r
]] Christoph Anton Mitterer
> On Wed, 2014-05-21 at 16:35 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > > By looking at that goal (which is a good goal of course) we "loose"
> > > however that strict serialisation that we more or less had with
> > > sysvinit.
&g
the description in the systemd.unit man page.
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]] Michael Biebl
Hi,
> Am 11.05.2014 18:51, schrieb Tollef Fog Heen:
> >
> > reassign 747743 openssh-server
> > thanks
> >
> > ]] Julian Wollrath
> >
> >> I have the package openssh-server installed but disabled starting the
> >> ser
7;serious' from 'important'
No, it's not. We don't consider it unsuitable for release. Feel free
to get the release team to chime in or provide a justification pointing
to the relevant bit of policy.
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eel this is a bug in systemd/dh_systemd.)
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]] Zack Weinberg
> On 05/06/2014 08:08 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > ]] Zack Weinberg
> >
> >> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> >>> ]] Zack Weinberg
> >>>> Fundamentally what I want is a bulletproof procedure for
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