Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 04 June 2012, Björn Balazs wrote: Aaron, all, thanks for your mail. It is good to adress these kinds of worries directly - and before the survey gets started. I actually get confronted with them often in my work. I personally think we do not need to worry. In most projects I

Re: Bugzilla cleanup - status report, what's next

2012-06-05 Thread Thijs Heus
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: On Monday, June 4, 2012 14:51:14 Myriam Schweingruber wrote: Heya Plasma developers, This mail just to give you a little heads up on what has been done: As you can see for yourself in the bugzilla statistics [1], you

Re: Bugzilla cleanup - status report, what's next

2012-06-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 05 June 2012, Thijs Heus wrote: I've just created a '4.9 regressions' search list that are contain all the bugs that are valid against 4.9, but not against 4.8. Some of them, most notably the weather plasmoid and the battery plasmoid, are already getting some duplicates - so

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Björn Balazs
Marco, all, Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2012, 10:01:44 schrieb Marco Martin: On Monday 04 June 2012, Björn Balazs wrote: Aaron, all, thanks for your mail. It is good to adress these kinds of worries directly - and before the survey gets started. I actually get confronted with them often in

Re: Theming, again

2012-06-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 04 June 2012, Ivan Čukić wrote: :D ) : - visually connecting the popups with the applets example: http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/53086-1.png or a 'triangle' pointing to the applet or anything else that people can devise (yeah, this is my main issue)

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 05 June 2012, Björn Balazs wrote: Nobody ever suggested to do a user-led approach, to stick in the terminology of the article. Even though I have a somewhat more differentiated view on the topic than it is been layed out in the article, the main points are correct (ok, the article

Re: Bugzilla cleanup - status report, what's next

2012-06-05 Thread Thijs Heus
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 05 June 2012, Thijs Heus wrote: I've just created a '4.9 regressions' search list that are contain all the bugs that are valid against 4.9, but not against 4.8. Some of them, most notably the weather

Re: Bugzilla cleanup - status report, what's next

2012-06-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 05 June 2012, Thijs Heus wrote: the unfortunate part of this problem is that there is no -legal- way around (while there would be plenty of -technical- ways around ;) With 'dealt with' I did not per se mean 'resolve' ;)... The funny thing is though that the weather forcast

Re: Theming, again

2012-06-05 Thread Ivan Čukić
another thing that i wish it was possible that is a bit troublesome at the moment is a thing like this part of the mockup that i have not (yet) posted: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/05/plasma-desktoprK3844.png This is not that different to the 3D dock. It just needs some contextual information to

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Dario Freddi
2012/6/5 Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 05 June 2012, Björn Balazs wrote: Nobody ever suggested to do a user-led approach, to stick in the terminology of the article. Even though I have a somewhat more differentiated view on the topic than it is been layed out in the article, the

Re: Thoughts on the Iteration Sprint, discussions and criticism

2012-06-05 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hey, On Tuesday, June 05, 2012 13:31:44 Dario Freddi wrote: This mail was originally born as a reply to the survey thread, but it eventually drifted into something bigger which probably deserved his own thread. First of all I'd like to speak both with a Plasma hat (which I think I always

Re: The tooltip state. Not that good. Proposal for improvement.

2012-06-05 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 21:37:42 Mark wrote: Seriously, thank you for the information. That little piece of vital information was missing on the wiki. I added it: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/QML/API#Dialog though you probably want to make it more acurate. Stating the

Re: Thoughts on the Iteration Sprint, discussions and criticism

2012-06-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 05 June 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote: Starting from the very beginning, I honestly can't understand the arguments about we already have a vision. Assume this is true - this vision was created (and eventually evolved) over the last, I think now, 3 years. Maybe a bit more maybe a

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, June 4, 2012 23:57:22 Björn Balazs wrote: What I try to do with this survey, is to ask users / the community to report about their life - or to stay in the picture: let them imagine where the bridge could be built and how the existence of the bridge would change their life. and

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, June 4, 2012 22:49:35 Alex Fiestas wrote: Tokamak 5 is (wrongly?) understood as the Plasma team sprint, this sprint is not only about plasma but instead about How we move the workspace forward. It is actually closer to the Active sprint. Tokamak, or any sprint, is what we make it.

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, June 4, 2012 23:32:08 Alex Fiestas wrote: On Monday, June 04, 2012 11:00:56 PM Sebastian Kügler wrote: That might come as a surprise, but Plasma == Active Making a difference between those (and the KDE workspace) only makes sense in a

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 11:23:15 Björn Balazs wrote: We - as the designers and creators of KDE - will have to understand and believe what people say. And we will use only what makes sense to us to create a vision, personas, etc - and at the end software. you can't make sense of something for

Re: The tooltip state. Not that good. Proposal for improvement.

2012-06-05 Thread Mark
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 21:37:42 Mark wrote: Seriously, thank you for the information. That little piece of vital information was missing on the wiki. I added it:

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Dario Freddi
2012/6/5 Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org: On Monday, June 4, 2012 23:32:08 Alex Fiestas wrote: On Monday, June 04, 2012 11:00:56 PM Sebastian Kügler wrote: That might come as a surprise, but                                     Plasma == Active Making a difference between those (and the

Re: The tooltip state. Not that good. Proposal for improvement.

2012-06-05 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, June 05, 2012 14:57:42 Mark wrote: On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 21:37:42 Mark wrote: Seriously, thank you for the information. That little piece of vital information was missing on the wiki. I added it:

Drag-and-Drop for StackFolder

2012-06-05 Thread Ural Mullabaev
Hi all, I am a Rosa Linux developer. Recently we implemented Drag-and-Drop mechanism for StackFolder and would like to know chances to include StackFolder in KDE 4.9. Regards, Ural Mullabaev Rosa Laboratory www.rosalab.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing

Re: Review Request: Plasmate: Add tabbox previewer

2012-06-05 Thread Antonis Tsiapaliokas
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105139/ --- (Updated June 5, 2012, 1:42 p.m.) Review request for kwin, Plasma and

Re: Thoughts on the Iteration Sprint, discussions and criticism

2012-06-05 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Tuesday 05 June 2012 14:21:23 Marco Martin wrote: What could be a nice idea in the sprint, is a short session with a debate (maybe even moderated by someone, almost in talk-show style :p) on this very same topic: why stopping to consider the desktop a special thing is right? why is wrong?

Re: Drag-and-Drop for StackFolder

2012-06-05 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hi Ural, On Tuesday, June 05, 2012 17:19:46 Ural Mullabaev wrote: I am a Rosa Linux developer. Recently we implemented Drag-and-Drop mechanism for StackFolder and would like to know chances to include StackFolder in KDE 4.9. For new features, it is unfortunately too late. We're already past

Re: Drag-and-Drop for StackFolder

2012-06-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 05 June 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote: It would be good if you posted your patches / code to http://reviewboard.kde.org, so we can have a look and judge about its inclusion and into which release. In general, we're very welcoming to new and cool Plasma addons, we just need to

Re: Survey to prepare 'Next Workspace Iteration' sprint

2012-06-05 Thread Alex Fiestas
After treading the whole thread, it seems that there are people concern that the survey can do more bad than good, at least when it comes to the whole workspace. Maybe we can do a hang out (G+ thing) to sort thigns out? emails are shitty medium to talk these things and come to an agreetment.

Re: Drag-and-Drop for StackFolder

2012-06-05 Thread Ural Mullabaev
On Tuesday 05 June 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote: It would be good if you posted your patches / code to http://reviewboard.kde.org, so we can have a look and judge about its inclusion and into which release. In general, we're very welcoming to new and cool Plasma addons, we just

Re: Drag-and-Drop for StackFolder

2012-06-05 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Ural Mullabaev ural.mullab...@rosalab.ruwrote: Yes, StackFolder is an independent applet and placed in a playground repo (https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/stackfolder). It was announced by Denis Koryavov in the kde-devel mailing list with

Re: Drag-and-Drop for StackFolder

2012-06-05 Thread Ural Mullabaev
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Ural Mullabaev ural.mullab...@rosalab.ru wrote: Yes, StackFolder is an independent applet and placed in a playground repo ( https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/stackfolder ). It was announced by Denis Koryavov in the kde-devel mailing

Re: Thoughts on the Iteration Sprint, discussions and criticism

2012-06-05 Thread Aleix Pol
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 05 June 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote: Starting from the very beginning, I honestly can't understand the arguments about we already have a vision. Assume this is true - this vision was created (and eventually

Re: Review Request: Plasmate: request to merge terietor/remoteinstaller to master

2012-06-05 Thread David Edmundson
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105032/#review14440 --- Looks good to me. Will let someone from Plasma (sebas