Re: Breakout: 10 minute test

2016-10-28 Thread kainz.a
What for me is also now confuse is that most config stuff is in syse but some not. E.g. network manager, desktop wallpaper I know there are technical reasons, but I didn't understand that when I don't use activities (one function that is nowhere described what it is used for, and hidden by

Re: Breakout: 10 minute test

2016-10-28 Thread kainz.a
On the other hand when we give the user some stuff to do. Most user will start with the windows way and say it doesn`t work cause its not the same than in win. I for example want switch to win10 cause it will fail the 10min test. So we have to shaw also in the first 10 min why kde is awesome

Re: Breakout: 10 minute test

2016-10-28 Thread Eike Hein
On 10/28/2016 07:16 PM, Aleix Pol wrote: > Most issues we'd find are possibly already reported somewhere. There's a disconnect between "reported" and "developers are aware of it, and moreover its impact". > Aleix Cheers, Eike

Re: Breakout: 10 minute test

2016-10-28 Thread Aleix Pol
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Friday 28 October 2016 03:01:47 Aleix Pol wrote: >> What do you have in mind? >> Are these things reported? >> Are the things all these people try the same things? >> >> It doesn't sound like a very stable metric to me.

Re: Breakout: 10 minute test

2016-10-28 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
On Friday, 28 October 2016 10:35:43 BST Marco Martin wrote: > On Friday 28 October 2016 03:01:47 Aleix Pol wrote: > > What do you have in mind? > > Are these things reported? > > Are the things all these people try the same things? > > > > It doesn't sound like a very stable metric to me. > >

Re: Breakout: 10 minute test

2016-10-28 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 28 October 2016 03:01:47 Aleix Pol wrote: > What do you have in mind? > Are these things reported? > Are the things all these people try the same things? > > It doesn't sound like a very stable metric to me. for this i fear the only good way is real life user testing, which

Re: Breakout: 10 minute test

2016-10-27 Thread Aleix Pol
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, kainz.a wrote: > Biggest Pain Points > * I think our biggest is still quality - Plasma regularly fails the > "10 minute test", I see people trying it and something doesn't work > right in the first 10 minutes > >

Breakout: 10 minute test

2016-10-27 Thread kainz.a
Biggest Pain Points * I think our biggest is still quality - Plasma regularly fails the "10 minute test", I see people trying it and something doesn't work right in the first 10 minutes https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2016-October/060970.html how can we success the 10 minute test?