D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

ngraham added a comment. All right, how about this? F5763759: Better 2.png F5763758: better.png REPOSITORY R119 Plasma Desktop REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D11253 To: ngraham, #plasma,

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

ngraham updated this revision to Diff 30327. ngraham added a comment. Use a more appropriate icon and shorten the string REPOSITORY R119 Plasma Desktop CHANGES SINCE LAST UPDATE https://phabricator.kde.org/D11253?vs=30313=30327 BRANCH arcpatch-D11253 REVISION DETAIL

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

davidedmundson added a comment. There's a pre-existing discussion on bugzilla about the latter comment. REPOSITORY R119 Plasma Desktop REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D11253 To: ngraham, #plasma, davidedmundson Cc: mart, hein, broulik, richardbowen, plasma-devel, ZrenBot,

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

mart added a comment. In D11253#232219 , @richardbowen wrote: > Also how about a preferences shortcut for "Desktop Wallpaper" (or some other suitable text) searchable from the start menu and krunner? This would be similar to the other desktop

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

richardbowen added a comment. Also how about a preferences shortcut for "Desktop Wallpaper" (or some other suitable text) searchable from the start menu and krunner? This would be similar to the other desktop preferences that are searchable like "Desktop Theme", "Desktop Effects", etc..

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

ngraham updated this revision to Diff 30313. ngraham added a comment. Rebase on master, it's been a while REPOSITORY R119 Plasma Desktop CHANGES SINCE LAST UPDATE https://phabricator.kde.org/D11253?vs=29300=30313 BRANCH arcpatch-D11253 REVISION DETAIL

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

richardbowen added a comment. In D11253#232189 , @mart wrote: > what about as text using Configure-desktop and as icon preferences-desktop-wallpaper?F5763655: Spectacle.T27450.png +1 A big

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

mart added a comment. what about as text using Configure-desktop and as icon preferences-desktop-wallpaper?F5763655: Spectacle.T27450.png REPOSITORY R119 Plasma Desktop REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D11253 To: ngraham, #plasma,

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

ngraham added a comment. So what's our path forward here? We have some positive votes and some negative votes. Do we need to first have a wider conversation on wallpaper discoverability and then later circle back to something we can all agree on? REPOSITORY R119 Plasma Desktop REVISION

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

broulik added a comment. > "plz keep this as short as pssible bcause is a context menu" Widget apps use `i18nc("@action:inmenu", "...")` REPOSITORY R119 Plasma Desktop REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D11253 To: ngraham, #plasma, davidedmundson Cc: mart, hein, broulik,

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

mart added a comment. In D11253#223766 , @broulik wrote: > +1 > > I just hope it won't make the menu too wide „Arbeitsfläche und Hintergrundbild einrichten“ is what I guess it would be for my locale (but then we already have „Inhalt der

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

ngraham added a comment. In D11253#223776 , @hein wrote: > This patch is based on misunderstanding a reddit comment: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391485#c9 > > Heavy -1 for making the menu way too wordy. > > On a meta-level, it's

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

hein added a comment. This patch is based on misunderstanding a reddit comment: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391485#c9 -1 REPOSITORY R119 Plasma Desktop REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D11253 To: ngraham, #plasma, davidedmundson Cc: hein, broulik, richardbowen,

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

broulik added a comment. +1 I just hope it won't make the menu too wide „Arbeitsfläche und Hintergrundbild einrichten“ is what I guess it would be for my locale (but then we already have „Inhalt der Zwischenablage einfügen“ for Paste) so that is not a big deal ;) REPOSITORY R119

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

richardbowen added a comment. I wonder if one should dumb down the interface to accommodate this word scanning habit, where one doesn't really read stuff one just scans the screen for a keyword and then gets frustrated when the keyword (like "Wallpaper") doesn't show up . Well if it works

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

ngraham added a comment. In D11253#223747 , @richardbowen wrote: > Windows has the word "Personalize" which is quite descriptive. "Customize Desktop" sounds fine as well. but I think the word "Configure" is used more often throughtout the

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

richardbowen added a comment. Windows has the word "Personalize" which is quite descriptive. "Customize Desktop" sounds fine as well. but I think the word "Configure" is used more often throughtout the Plasma desktop. How often do you see users complaining about not knowing how to set

D11253: Add the word "Wallpaper" into the context and Toolbox menus to help users figure out how to change the wallpaper

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