Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-13 Thread David Baron
A few observations, queries: 1. Folks seem to be posting applets on kde-look. This is for eye-candy, decorations, screen savers. Applets that treat useful information belong on kde-apps, I would think. 2. What to show? Seems to be a trend of plaster large screen areas with the whole kit-and-c

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-14 Thread Alex Merry
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 07:45:16 David Baron wrote: > 3. KDE3 panel applets/services I STILL use because they have not been > ported: knemo, ksensors. There was also a system-monitor (four of them > posted on kde- look are not as nice), kweather, kisa (cool live > spell-checker), and others wh

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-14 Thread David Baron
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 20:04:10 Alex Merry wrote: > On Wednesday 14 January 2009 07:45:16 David Baron wrote: > > 3. KDE3 panel applets/services I STILL use because they have not been > > ported: knemo, ksensors. There was also a system-monitor (four of them > > posted on kde- look are not as

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 14 January 2009, David Baron wrote: > Standards? I used qt4/kde4 widgets and kicons to KDE styles in my applet. > Plasma has its own themes (but one would need to create icons) and its own > widgets as well. Must use/should use/there if needed? plasma uses the regular KDE icons from K

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 14 January 2009, David Baron wrote: > 1. Folks seem to be posting applets on kde-look. This is for eye-candy, > decorations, screen savers. Applets that treat useful information belong > on kde-apps, I would think. we (plasma team) don't actually control that =) > 2. What to show? S

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-15 Thread Jud Craft
"we (plasma team) don't actually control that =)" There really does need to be a pervasive integration of all aspects of the user-experience with plasma. Get Hot New Stuff is an interesting compromise, but at the moment it seems a strange klutch, which stands in the way of implementing a much mor

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-15 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday 15 January 2009, Jud Craft wrote: > "we (plasma team) don't actually control that =)" > > There really does need to be a pervasive integration of all aspects of > the user-experience with plasma. Get Hot New Stuff is an interesting > compromise, but at the moment it seems a strange klu

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-15 Thread Jud Craft
I do really like the platform-independence and compilation-free packages! I had neglected those; that's awesome, so the picture is much less depressing than my post says. Plasma themes themselves are also independent, correct? (Assumption based on hearing efforts to port Plasma to Windows). Wha

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-15 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday 15 January 2009, Jud Craft wrote: > I do really like the platform-independence and compilation-free > packages! I had neglected those; that's awesome, so the picture is > much less depressing than my post says. > > Plasma themes themselves are also independent, correct? (Assumption >

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-15 Thread Jud Craft
Well, true. I suppose the only reservation is that such solutions like the Google Gadget/iPhone software stores require the development of a supported software delivery system, that I think should not be outsourced to a third party website. And that takes a lot of planning and resources - KDE can

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-15 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday 15 January 2009, Jud Craft wrote: > Well, true. I suppose the only reservation is that such solutions > like the Google Gadget/iPhone software stores require the development > of a supported software delivery system, that I think should not be > outsourced to a third party website. t

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 15 January 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday 15 January 2009, Jud Craft wrote: > > I do really like the platform-independence and compilation-free > > packages! I had neglected those; that's awesome, so the picture is > > much less depressing than my post says. > > > > Plasma t

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday 16 January 2009, Marco Martin wrote: > what about giving a dbus interface for all of this, like background > settings and use this for setting stuff from another process? > (for background settings would also be needed a list of activities and have > a dialog per-activity, dunno if it co

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 16 January 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Friday 16 January 2009, Marco Martin wrote: > > what about giving a dbus interface for all of this, like background > > settings and use this for setting stuff from another process? > > (for background settings would also be needed a list of act

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday 16 January 2009, Marco Martin wrote: > so there is kinda only the plasma theme selection that could make sense in > something outside like systemsettings hmm... let's brainstorm on this ... things that are "global" plasma settings: * Plasma theme * install/remove widgets * per-virtual-d

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 16 January 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Friday 16 January 2009, Marco Martin wrote: > > so there is kinda only the plasma theme selection that could make sense > > in something outside like systemsettings > > hmm... let's brainstorm on this ... things that are "global" plasma > settin

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-16 Thread Jamboarder
> From: Aaron J. Seigo > hmm... let's brainstorm on this ... things that are "global" plasma settings: > > * Plasma theme > * install/remove widgets > * per-virtual-desktop views > > anything else? These are a little speculative but: - panel-follows-activity? - Activity -> Icon threshold for s

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-17 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 16 January 2009, Jamboarder wrote: > > From: Aaron J. Seigo > > hmm... let's brainstorm on this ... things that are "global" plasma > > settings: > > > > * Plasma theme > > * install/remove widgets > > * per-virtual-desktop views > > > > anything else? > > These are a little speculative

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-18 Thread Chani
On January 17, 2009 02:35:11 Marco Martin wrote: > On Friday 16 January 2009, Jamboarder wrote: > > > From: Aaron J. Seigo > > > hmm... let's brainstorm on this ... things that are "global" plasma > > > settings: > > > > > > * Plasma theme > > > * install/remove widgets > > > * per-virtual-desktop

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-21 Thread David Baron
More observations: Drawing by svg::paint yields too large a view on the panel (where one cannot adjust the plasmoid size). When I used that, I shrunk the rectangle to 80%. When I used kicon.::paint for the same svgz, I did not need to adjust the rect. Some plasmoids available in repositories o

Re: Plasma Applet Direction

2009-01-24 Thread Riccardo Iaconelli
On Friday 16 January 2009 16:56:30 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > anything else? Maybe we can add screensaver config? That's not really plasma, but I tend to see most users looking at the desktop config when looking for it... Bye, -Riccardo -- GPG key: 3D0F6376 When encrypting, please encrypt also fo