Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-07-17 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On woensdag 5 juli 2017 13:27:05 CEST Jens wrote: > Ok after much edits and fiddling this is the current one - based on input > from a wealth of sources and people: > > -- -- > > "Plasma is a cross-device work environment by the KDE

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-07-05 Thread Jens
Ok after much edits and fiddling this is the current one - based on input from a wealth of sources and people: -- -- "Plasma is a cross-device work environment by the KDE Community where trust is put on the user's capacity to best

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-18 Thread Jens Reuterberg
Yes that was a worry of mine too - that certain people in the community would use the vision as a club against developers but then I thought that the issue there isn't so much the vision - its the person using it as a club. Any vision can be used as a club, every statement of intent, even now wh

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-18 Thread Jens Reuterberg
I will add all these as notes on Phabricator task as well - keep the ideas coming everyone its golden so far! On Friday, 16 June 2017 01.27.42 CEST Aleix Pol wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Martin Flöser wrote: > > Am 2017-06-12 01:19, schrieb Aleix Pol: > >> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 1

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-15 Thread Aleix Pol
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Martin Flöser wrote: > Am 2017-06-12 01:19, schrieb Aleix Pol: >> >> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Jonathan Riddell >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Yay, I like it. >>> >>> Across different operating systems? We don't do anything on Windows or >>> Mac. >>> >>> Jonathan >

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-15 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 15 June 2017 21:16:35 Martin Flöser wrote: > Given that I'm also very uneasy with the formulation of operating > systems. Personally I would like to not see operating systems mentioned > in the vision. Personally - as most know - I wouldn't mind if we would > only support Linux (and may

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-15 Thread Martin Flöser
Am 2017-06-12 01:19, schrieb Aleix Pol: On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote: Yay, I like it. Across different operating systems? We don't do anything on Windows or Mac. Jonathan On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 09:40:28AM +0200, Jens Reuterberg wrote: Time to get back to the

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-15 Thread Martin Flöser
Am 2017-06-09 09:40, schrieb Jens Reuterberg: Time to get back to the vision. Plasma Vision 2 Plasma never dictates the user's needs, it only strives to solve them. Plasma never defines what the user should be allowed to do, it only ensures that she can. I'm not too happy with thi

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-15 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 09 June 2017 09:40:28 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > Time to get back to the vision. > > Plasma Vision 2 > > Plasma Desktop is a cross device work environment where total trust is put > on the user's capacity to best define her own workflow and preferences. > [...] +1 to the propos

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-14 Thread Mario Fux
Am Sonntag, 11. Juni 2017, 23:20:52 CEST schrieb Jens Reuterberg: Morning Good vision and thanks everybody for working on it. > Thanks :) > > I tried to find a different, less convuluted way of saying "different > distros" - that also tied in other devices beyond laptops and stationary. > > If

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-14 Thread Martin Flöser
Am 2017-06-14 13:37, schrieb Sebastian Kügler: On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 09:40:28 +0200 Jens Reuterberg wrote: Time to get back to the vision. The comments we got were useful, and it seems the discussion is petering out ... that's probably a good sign. I didn't sense any significant opposition, so

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-14 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 09:40:28 +0200 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > Time to get back to the vision. The comments we got were useful, and it seems the discussion is petering out ... that's probably a good sign. I didn't sense any significant opposition, so I'd suggest we finalize the vision and celebrat

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-13 Thread Jens Reuterberg
Awesome! "elegant" is a lovelly way to cover that ground - what do you think Martin? /jens On tisdag 13 juni 2017 kl. 11:30:10 CEST Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On zaterdag 10 juni 2017 09:28:38 CEST Jens Reuterberg wrote: > > You are a man of my own heart! > > > > Beautiful is the core ideal of

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-13 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On zaterdag 10 juni 2017 09:28:38 CEST Jens Reuterberg wrote: > You are a man of my own heart! > > Beautiful is the core ideal of "venustatis" - I just went for "interesting" > because beautiful has become so... depricated in English usage (or modern/ > western usage). Almost like a pejorative. I

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-11 Thread Aleix Pol
On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > Yay, I like it. > > Across different operating systems? We don't do anything on Windows or Mac. > > Jonathan > > > On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 09:40:28AM +0200, Jens Reuterberg wrote: >> Time to get back to the vision. >> >> Plasma Vis

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-11 Thread Jens Reuterberg
Thanks :) I tried to find a different, less convuluted way of saying "different distros" - that also tied in other devices beyond laptops and stationary. If you have a better wording I would love to have it - I can't think of one single word that better fits the need. On Sunday, 11 June 201

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-11 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Yay, I like it. Across different operating systems? We don't do anything on Windows or Mac. Jonathan On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 09:40:28AM +0200, Jens Reuterberg wrote: > Time to get back to the vision. > > Plasma Vision 2 > > Plasma Desktop is a cross device work environment where t

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-10 Thread Jens Reuterberg
You are a man of my own heart! :) Beautiful is the core ideal of "venustatis" - I just went for "interesting" because beautiful has become so... depricated in English usage (or modern/ western usage). Almost like a pejorative. In practice beauty contains "interesting" as well so thats why I went

Re: Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Jens Reuterberg - 09.06.17, 09:40: > We build to be durable, we create to be usable, we design to be interesting. […] > Reasoning behind the vision: […] > Finally its the poetic vitruvian line at the end: Firmitas, Utilitas, > Venustatis. That something is "well built" or "durable", that something

Plasma Vision v 2.0

2017-06-09 Thread Jens Reuterberg
Time to get back to the vision. Plasma Vision 2 Plasma Desktop is a cross device work environment where total trust is put on the user's capacity to best define her own workflow and preferences. Plasma is simple by default, a clean work area for real world usage which intends to sta