Re: Native upstart scripts

2010-05-05 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 03:48:18PM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > > This /sbin/init things are not that easy. We will always need some init > > daemon… though I still won't chose an implementation only basing on the > > fact that the idea is great. It must work and be maintained (or at least > > s

Re: Native upstart scripts

2010-05-05 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Jacek Konieczny wrote: > I would rather say it is because of putting another audio server where > it is not needed at all. ALSA alone does its job well enough nowadays > (and if it does not, it should be fixed not wrapped with another layer). > Fortunately things ha

Re: Native upstart scripts

2010-05-05 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 02:13:51PM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Łukasz Jernaś wrote: > > Well, after seeing how many people have weird problems with PulseAudio > > I would be cautious about using another thing  thought out by > > Lennart... > > To be fair you ha

Re: Native upstart scripts

2010-05-05 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Łukasz Jernaś wrote: > Well, after seeing how many people have weird problems with PulseAudio > I would be cautious about using another thing  thought out by > Lennart... To be fair you have to admit that a vast number of the problems experienced while using pulsea

Re: Native upstart scripts

2010-05-05 Thread Łukasz Jernaś
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Jacek Konieczny wrote: >> Hello, >> >> In PLD Th, we have upstart as the /sbin/init daemon for some time, but >> it is only used to start the old 'SysVinit' scripts from >> /etc/rc.d/init.d. To make full us

Re: Native upstart scripts

2010-05-05 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 07:40:43PM +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > i don't like the idea that the links are managed via some script, i'd like > easily to boot to upstart-mode or sysvinit-mode with a kernel commandline, or > something in /etc/sysconfig/system the both solutions should be available a

Re: Native upstart scripts

2010-05-05 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:20:30AM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Jacek Konieczny wrote: > > In PLD Th, we have upstart as the /sbin/init daemon for some time, but > > it is only used to start the old 'SysVinit' scripts from > > /etc/rc.d/init.d. To make full use

Re: Native upstart scripts

2010-05-05 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Jacek Konieczny wrote: > Hello, > > In PLD Th, we have upstart as the /sbin/init daemon for some time, but > it is only used to start the old 'SysVinit' scripts from > /etc/rc.d/init.d. To make full use of Upstart features, like process > supervising, parallel star